Charizard (Mega-X)- I would like for him to stay in S rank for now, we disussed this plenty already and I still feel that nothing ahs changed to warrant a drop, I understand the argument for him to drop but Id like to see how he fairs in S rank first.
- obvious S rank is obvious, Greninja is one if if not the best mon in the tier and still clearly is S rank.
- I think keldeo should drop to A+, honestly the only reason this thing is so good is because scald is broken as shit. So spamming scald is still very viable and keldeo is now a very effective scarfer in this meta as it serves as a nice answer to greninja on offensive teams.
Latios- I think it should still be S rank because not much can switchin, it has a nice lure set with hp fire and eq to lure some of the tiers most annoying mons, it is a great scarfer, and still has an effective LO set that is great for defogging for offensive teams.
Azumarill - Stay in A+, still has more than one great set Ive been seeing the Choice band set be very effective, AV isnt compeltely useless and Belly drum is always effective because it can catch them by surprise.
Bisharp- Stay in A+, great mon hasnt gotten worse, since lando-t is a usual answer to physical threats bisharp can take advantage of his intimidate, still blocks defogs, beats most fairies, no reason to move down.
Charizard (Mega-Y)- Ill say stay in A+, dont feel too strongly about this but he has decent speed and handles balance well, he also has a decent matchup against common stall teams right now, struggles against offense but if he gets in for free something dies, I can see him moving down, but I think hes still A+
Clefable- Stay in A+, critical part in this metagame tbh, great addition to balance/defensive cores like ferro/hippo/clef, calm mind set can just destroy balance, its one of the best SR setters in the tier imo, and its got 2 greaet abilities each of them providing different utility in certain situations, beats sableye and is a good check to things like mega gallade and lopunny.
Gallade (Mega)- Stay in A+, I initially wanted this in S rank but I actually think it falls just short especially since it relies on CC alot and the defense drops make it pretty easy to revenge kill, I think it might work its way up to S rank later in the meta, but right now it should stay A+
Garchomp - Ive been using a tank garchomp and its been doing great so Im inclined to leave it in A+, it also has that nice lum+SD set that can lure and beat sableye which is really important. I havent really seen scarfchomp lately but I imagine it isnt too bad against offense. This is another I wouldnt mind seeing in A but for now Ill say A+.
Gardevoir (Mega)- A+, this thing just hits way too hard to drop, combod with its decent speed and utility moves I cant see an argument for a drop
Gengar- stay in A+, the only set that took a hit is his stallbreaing set, scarfgar cleans up offense nicely, specsgar hits like a tank on balance and both of them can trick to cripple stall mons, he has so many moves that can help he should stay A+
Heatran- stay A+, he just got better nothing really to say
Landorus-T- move up to S rank, the metagame quite literally revolves around him(u-turn pun, no? ok), his typing/ability/bulk/ allow him to have two sets that are Amazing in the metagame, seems to define what an S rank mon is, Ive heard the argument that he is easy to wear down, and while I agree, I also think it doesnt matter if he gets worn down because his scarf set just outspeeds everything, gets the intmiidate off and u-turns out with his mission accomplished, he nerfed a physical attacker. He is a centralizing force as most mons need to run ice punch when they otherise wouldnt have just to try and hit him on the switch. S rank imo
Landorus-drop to A, I mean there are some teams he can do very well against, but I think he just is lackluster against most teams, his speed tier just isnt that trolly anymore and I just think the meta has kind of changed for the worse for him.
Latias stay in A+, similiar to latios, has healing wish, more bulk, slightly less power, stay in A+
Metagross (Mega)- I was on the fence about this one but I have been convinced that he should be S for at least now. He just has the bulk and the speed and I now understand that the 4mss isnt that bad when you can just build around what would stop him(its a short list), he has a great 4 attack set for that lets him mollywhop stall and balance, and his agility set lets him be a great cleaner for offense, I see him in S rank.
Mew- drop to A, still a good mon but has just gotten less effective, more magic bounce doesnt help either and this is a similiar case to lando-i, its still theoretically good, but the meta just changed for the worse for poor mew.
Pinsir (Mega)-no idea(XD) I am inclined to keep this in A+, because even though more things outspeed him now a +2 quick attack will more likely than not OHKO anything that outspeeds him, and he can still massacre balance and stall if played well and the right support, so Ill keep him in A+, but am open to change
Scizor (Mega)- A+ he got better imo, with his offensive SD set he can really destroy alot of teams, he is just unprepared for atm and is taking souls, see no reason to drop him.
Talonflame, A+ If it werent for his SR weakness I might consider this thing for S rank, it has so many great sets, the jolly SD set is one of the best winconc rn imo, I personally use his stallbreaking set which beats sooo many things, I mean it can stay in on volt switchers and then burn whatever comes in and then just roost off, its bulk is seriously underestimated, got a cool bulk up set too, CB is still cool , great mon, very close to S rank but should stay A+
Thundurus - isnt this S rank? It should be prankster twave is great, has utility moves like taunt and knock off for stall, nasty plot to help it break things, 111 speed tier is trolly af, definite S rank.
Venusaur (Mega)- Honestly now that I am weighing opportunity cost more heavily, I cant even find a reason to have this thing ranked, I feel like every single one of its sets are outclassed by other mons, If I am being realistic I might want to see this thing drop to B+, I know that sounds crazy but you people are the ones who want to factor in opportunity cost this much, so if you disagree please give a good reason to use venusaur when you have things like sableye,slowbro,amoongus that can basically do whatever venusaur can.
