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My biggest problem usually is thunder wave, I don't think guts can help - once my sweeper gets paralyzed I'm really screwed and usually lose. Sometimes the stupidest little things surprise me with thunderwave to the face.
As far as I know, in the UU Forum a lot of Topics got deleted by accident.
Conkeldurr being Paralyzed has more pros than cons, I'd say. You're already hella slow but now gain x1.5 attack, even if you do lose some turns. Other options include Rotom-W whom eats up Thunder Waves and doesn't mind Burns much since he can heal with Pain Split (Toxic sucks, though). Again, Gliscor is also a great status absorber if you proc his orb. Think of what paralyzes your sweeper: is it Life Orb Thundurus-I? Go Conkeldurr (Assault Vest, Adamant, Max Attack and SpDef). Is it Ferrothorn? Conk also works since he beats it 1v1 but Substitute Gliscor is also there. Is it Slowbro? Rotom-W can come in and take anything it throws at you.
Hope this helped.
There are quite a few sets here. Bolt-Beam coverage is really great though. Although, even though it doesn't have Prankster, that shouldn't inhibit its ability to attain the IV's necessary to get HP Ice/Flying iirc.
Can someone please tell me what bolt-beam means?
Bolt-Beam specifically refers to the Electric-Ice coverage, such as Thunderbolt and Ice Beam, or Thunderbolt and HP Ice.
In-game questions would go in the Orange Islands forum; this is purely for competitive discussion.
However, to answer your question, yes you can use the dexnav to find one.
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Reversal
move 3: Memento / Stone Edge
move 4: Stealth Rock
ability: Arena Trap
item: Focus Sash
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
ivs: 21 HP / 0 Def / 0 SpD
nature: Naive / Hasty
thanku
Assuming the Latias runs 252 SpA (which it often doesn't) you need 100 SpD or 156 HP
If you want to survive to Draco Meteors from Latios you need 252 HP and 32 SpD or 200 SpD
More often than not, it tends to be outclassed by Mega Pinsir, Staraptor and Talonflame due to its lower speed and bad bulk. It doesn't help that it has to use Superpower to get rid of Mega Diancie, which essentially negates the Moxie boost while lowering defense (not that I know of a way to fit Superpower to being with).
Simulators are still the backbone and main base for competitive battling; as it always will be for it's convenience, accessibility, quickness and ability to gain usage stats. That said, wifi battling is gaining popularity, just it ironically has to mimic the simulators and can't be used for usage stats and such.
Guys, what is the exact definition of four-move-slot-syndrome? Every pokemon does get better with a fifth move somehow, but where is the border between just getting better and four-move-slot syndrome? I think a lot of people dont know what it is exactly cause in topics some people say that a specific pokemon has 4mss while others say it has not.
On another note, is it an idea to make a thread about 4mss where people can discuss about the exact definition? I think this will help the discussions on the forum.
On another note, is it an idea to make a thread about 4mss where people can discuss about the exact definition? I think this will help the discussions on the forum.
Thank you
Four Moveslot Syndrome is where a Pokémon is either bad or sub-par without the fifth moveslot.
For instance, Lucario wants all five of Swords Dance, E-speed, and all of Close Combat, Crunch and Iron Tail (or was it ice punch? i forget). However, due to only having four slots, it either has to sacrifice power with SD, priority in E-speed, or coverage in one of the three moves listed.
The reason why a Pokémon like, say, Greninja does not have four moveslot syndrome despite having more than four viable moves, is that it is not bad without a fifth move even though it would obviously be better. Give Greninja Ice Beam, Gunk Shot, Low Kick, another move, and the appropriate nature, item and EV spread and it'll do fine without a fifth move.
The line is drawn when a Pokémon needs a fifth and maybe even sixth move to be good. This is why attaching the four moveslot syndrome accusation to things like Greninja and Mega Lopunny is absolutely ridiculous.
Kurona explained the idea of 4MSS pretty well, and as far as making a thread you can ask a mod about making a thread via their profile page or private message. However, the idea itself is pretty well-defined, so I honestly don't think we need a thread for it. You can usually tell the difference between 4MSS and straight-up versatility through practice better than in theory.
Wow ok! Didnt expect it to be that far! So this means that 4mss can never be used as an argument for suspect tested pokemon! Cause they obviously are good in the metagame otherwise they would not be suspect tested! A lot of people are saying mega metagross and greninja and a lot of others have it tough. But its nice to know what it means now! Thanks .
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