In the previous version of Smogon's strategy Pokedex, when viewing a page about an item or move, there would be stuff about the competitive viability of said item or move. Now there isn't. Is there some place on Smogon that talks about the viability of items and moves? Or was that feature discontinued?
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I think that feature was discontinued, but you can certainly learn how good items and moves are by using them. Also, what is the max file size for an avatar?
Nope.
As a side note, all items knocked off by Knock Off still proc on the turn they were removed. For example, if Armaldo holds a Sitrus Berry and has it knocked off but is brought to 37% HP by Knock Off then he will still heal for 25% of his HP.
afaik, this doesn't happen with weakness policy
Onto my own question:
Is pin missile viable on mega beedrill?
Sorry for the really short answer again, no.
Thundy checks?:]
Raikou, Clefable, Mega Altaria, Celebi, Amoonguss, Mega Venusaur, Chansey, Mamoswine, and others.
edit: @ below yeah those two work ofc. its a check because it handles non-psychic variants, which from my experience they dont tend to run that.
Well Focus Blast isn't effective and Psychic isn't common on Thundurus. Unless it's an HP Flying variant in Nasty Plot sets more often than not it'll check the most common of sets being Tbolt, Hp Ice, Focus blast, thunder wave
It does work. Replay for evidence.
You aren't playing protect right if you find it mostly useless outside of MEVOing when it makes a wonderful scout against Scarf Lando-T being able to either lock him into an EQ, and switch in a flying/levitate mon, or figuring out he is planning to use U-turn and nail the switch in hard. Same with scouting out a choice Scizor, locking it into BP and switching in Rotom-W. Lots of choice locked mons, usually surprise scarvers, love to revenge or check MDiancie is what I notice, and with SR protect makes a wonderful way to call their bluff (especially Lando-T so you can notice that lefties recoveries without giving him the chance to set rocks on your field.)
It has other uses as well in being able to lure and kill things that think they can kill Diancie before MEVO like Heatran/Bisharp/Keldeo - in some cases it can be clutch in wasting a turn of weather and of course baiting Mega Lop into HJK. Protect has a lot of utility if used right, especially if you play a volt-turn team because of the games it can cause and the constant switching which you can easily use to your advantage. Some players also like pairing it with Ferrothorn to wrack up passive damage.
They key thing I find when using Mega Diancie with protect is her weaknesses are very easily covered, a plain FWG core works, and since she baits a lot of attacks protect can ease prediction to the appropriate mon - many of which work well alongside her namely Rotom-W and Talonflame.
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The spread most people use is:
Greninja @ Life Orb
Ability: Protean
EVs: 40 Atk / 216 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Gunk Shot
- Ice Beam
- Low Kick
40 Attack EV's allow you to OHKO AV Azumarill with Gunk Shot, while the rest maximise its offensive capabilities. Naive>Hasty because of physical priority attacks such as Sucker Punch, Aqua Jet and Mach Punch.
Ability: Protean
EVs: 40 Atk / 216 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Gunk Shot
- Ice Beam
- Low Kick
40 Attack EV's allow you to OHKO AV Azumarill with Gunk Shot, while the rest maximise its offensive capabilities. Naive>Hasty because of physical priority attacks such as Sucker Punch, Aqua Jet and Mach Punch.
Gliscor, Latias, Latios, Mandibuzz, Mew, Scizor, Skarmory, Zapdos Togekiss, Empoleon, Flygon, Excadrill, Starmie and Tentacruel.
What's a good switch in for Azumarill considering you don't know if it's running a Choice Band, Belly Drum, or Assault Vest set? From my experience Amoonguss doesn't take +4 Play Rough very well.
Amoonguss can take 2 banded play roughs, although not very well, but loses if azu belly drums on the switch as they tend to run knock off which OHKOs at +6. As always, Rotom-W is a solid switch in, but takes a solid chunk from banded play rough. Ferrothorn is a soft check because banded sets always run superpower and that is a really obvious switch in lol.
Mega slowbro is a solid answer thanks to its gargantuan defense stat. A lot of the time it's just a mind game for the banded set whether it will go for play rough or a waterfall. Oh also Celebi is a nice check.
Darn, I have to think for myself? I wanted someone to tell me what to think so I didn't have to!
XD jk
Basically, in early ORAS Thundurus was moved to S rank due to the prevalence of Greninja and the new fast mega evolutions that people couldn't find a better way to handle aside from just prankster twave. Now that the meta has settled down and with ninja leaving soon, it will most likely move to a+, also note that having a stealth rock weakness doesn't keep something out of s rank, as mega Pinsir (I think) and charizard (I know) were both in s rank at some point.
Not to mention that having relatively low weaknesses is not a reason to be kept out of S-rank either. Fuck, just look at Greninja. I think it's a pretty legit debate as to whether Thundy should be S or A+ and I'm kinda leaning towards the A+ side, but it certainly offers a ton of support, versatility, power and unpredictability.
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Can someone like ginganigga explain to me why he wasn't banned the first time he trolled this forum? Call me crazy, but I really doubt he's trying to bring anything productive to this site.
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