If you want to bring Vic back why did you ban him.FREE VICTINI
i didnt you fucking wankerIf you want to bring Vic back why did you ban him.
Also Choice Banded Boltstrike +Glaciate
Rips apart modt mons.
Yes you did.i didnt you fucking wanker
With Pokemon like Feraligatr and Suicune literally dominating this metagame, would re-introducing Thundurus-T be a way to "solve" this issue? Kinda like the Aegislash suspect in OU right now - take an offensive Pokemon that balances an element of the metagame and see if it works. Just a thought. I haven't invested much into it.kokoloko's vote from the Victini suspect test said:the ability to nuke anything with one move is absurd enough as it is, but what really pushes it over the edge is that 1. it has all the right coverage to beat anything that can reliably tank v-create, 2. its stat distribution makes it fast/bulky enough to beat pretty much everything. the couple of weeks we had without victini were the best metagame we've seen as of yet, imo.
goddamnit i was going to make that post.Yes you did.
With Pokemon like Feraligatr and Suicune literally dominating this metagame, would re-introducing Thundurus-T be a way to "solve" this issue? Kinda like the Aegislash suspect in OU right now - take an offensive Pokemon that balances an element of the metagame and see if it works. Just a thought. I haven't invested much into it.
Have you played the OU suspect ladder? It's repulsive. Thundurus-T doesnt need a retest.Yes you did.
With Pokemon like Feraligatr and Suicune literally dominating this metagame, would re-introducing Thundurus-T be a way to "solve" this issue? Kinda like the Aegislash suspect in OU right now - take an offensive Pokemon that balances an element of the metagame and see if it works. Just a thought. I haven't invested much into it.
My main problem with this is that a mon blanket checking a large amount of threats is (especially the Aegi suspect) it is majorly overcentralizing. I personally do not think the meta has changed enough from when we last tested torn for it to be any less broken. Imo our problems are not in what to bring down more so what to get rid of, if anything that is, since two mons could and have been considered broken by quite a few players. Gatr and pidge being the two I am referring to however I could see cases being made for other mons but I will leave that to other people. Overall a case could be made to suspect uu mons better than a mon dropping to uu.Yes you did.
With Pokemon like Feraligatr and Suicune literally dominating this metagame, would re-introducing Thundurus-T be a way to "solve" this issue? Kinda like the Aegislash suspect in OU right now - take an offensive Pokemon that balances an element of the metagame and see if it works. Just a thought. I haven't invested much into it.
Torn is moving up to OU by usage anyway so we can't retest it. Anyway I don't think Torn with ever get let back in if it ever falls to BL again. I just feel it's impossible to handle it cause it can easily pivot due to Regenerator+U-turn keeping it healthy. Not to mention very little can switch into its Flying+Fighting coverage, plus knock off cause knock off. It can run AV to make it extremely difficult to OHKO, so unless you OHKO, it will pivot out and regen, not to mention it outspeeds mostly every defensive mon that wants to eat up its attack and go into the appropriate counter. It probably doesn't matter, I'm just ranting we all know how broken it is.My main problem with this is that a mon blanket checking a large amount of threats is (especially the Aegi suspect) it is majorly overcentralizing. I personally do not think the meta has changed enough from when we last tested torn for it to be any less broken. Imo our problems are not in what to bring down more so what to get rid of, if anything that is, since two mons could and have been considered broken by quite a few players. Gatr and pidge being the two I am referring to however I could see cases being made for other mons but I will leave that to other people. Overall a case could be made to suspect uu mons better than a mon dropping to uu.
I'm afraid this is impossible because of Smogon policy on tier shifts, such a thing only ever happened to Medicham recently, and only because it was already RU in the past for the same reasons it was artificially dropped recently(mega being banned to BL). Anyway, usage shifts are happening very soon, likely removing Hippowdon and bringing Mamoseine, Mandibuzz and Gallade, although only Mandibuzz has a sure shot at not being banned.I agree with OG_Wanka. I think all this banter of letting broken mons in for a test is just a plea for innovation! UU ladder is a little stale. I only enjoy uu right now because of the stuff the forums put on. Maybe someone can talk to aim and convince ou coucil to give us something we can use such as Zapdos, metagross, or maybe even conkeldurr. I like the balanced tier but if its not changing, then I dont want to to be playing.
You can't "convince" the OU council to drop stuff to UU. That's decided by UU. Metagross will likely never drop unless Metagrossite is banned in OU.I agree with OG_Wanka. I think all this banter of letting broken mons in for a test is just a plea for innovation! UU ladder is a little stale. I only enjoy uu right now because of the stuff the forums put on. Maybe someone can talk to aim and convince ou coucil to give us something we can use such as Zapdos, metagross, or maybe even conkeldurr. I like the balanced tier but if its not changing, then I dont want to to be playing.
At the end of the day UU is in the best position unlike the other tiers in so much that even if it reaches a balanced point that isn't to say changes aren't possible outside of unbanning since drop downs from OU, which are inevitable, occurs with enough frequency to change the tier. Same goes for mons that end up going OU by usage. That said my sentiments are with Freeroamer in that like it or not UU is in a pretty good state, it may seem boring but down the line it can't be avoided a balanced tier is simply like that. Besides it is still going to be dynamic down the line once OU has made some decision regarding the borderline cases, either way it is a waiting game.I like the balanced tier but if its not changing, then I dont want to to be playing.
That pretty much sums up how I feel about ORAS UU right now. To those complaining that the metagame is stale or boring, I encourage you to look for new toys to play with within the tier, rather than outside of it. Experiment with different playstyles and unexplored Pokemon, I promise you there are far too many of them for you to get bored of. Use a LO Tailwind or Bulk Up 3 Attacks Tornadus, a Specs Yanmega, TR LO Reuniclus, Agility Feraligatr, all 'mons with tons of potential that hardly see any usage, and there's plenty more.I get that seeing new things is always cool and everyone likes a breath of fresh air every now and then, but sometimes I think people need to realise when they already have a good thing. I immensely enjoy ORAS UU, and I don't think anything can be argued that it would positively impact the tier enough to make it preferable from the metagame we already have, where nothing is outright broken although there are very strong threats such as Gatr and there's enough diversity to keep it from becoming too stale. If there was a retest that actually had notable advantages to making the metagame better than it already is, I'd be all for it, but at the moment I think most calls for retests are borne out of the want just for something new that might not improve the metagame in the long term.
Not really u_uI said that though..
It's not that big of a deal as it forces players to think creatively when teambuilding which is a good thing and helps a lot of people out in discovering cool threats and spicing things up on their own.Not really u_u
If it's that boring just run SD Mega-Abomasnow and sweep the metagame it's very fun
This might be a fun thing to try, especially if st123 would like to finally do this ;)Sun is most certainly viable, its just harder to pull off than rain. I will post some replays later but I'd say Drought would be extremely overcentralizing(as would drizzle).