They claim to do so for accessibility reasons, since all of those bar Deoxys are incredibly difficult to get and doubly so competitively. The actual issues with Mythicals are twofold: one, even if they were legal there's the Pentagon Rule; two, considering that cloning/legal hacking are how most people would obtain competitive Mythicals, there's always the chance yours doesn't clear a hack check.
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Why are so many people convinced that Emerald is getting a remake? We didn't get Blue or Yellow in Generation III and we didn't get Crystal in Generation IV. Is it because they copyrighted Delta Emerald? They also copyrighted WaterBlue and Grey yet they weren't made. Companies due that sort of thing. Like in the early 2000's Lucasfilm acquired the domain name "jangofett dot com". The most they ever did with it was have it link straight to the official Star Wars website. The only reason they got it was so that someone else couldn't.
No, we simply aren't getting it as it wouldn't make sense to put an old Frontier in a new region AFTER the remakes failed to (if ORAS has, then it would be likely).
That wouldn't be an issue in the first place if they just made them accessable normally like what they did with Deoxys.
Do you really want me to go through an entire list of changes they've done every single generation? Just look up some Moves and Abilities on Bulbapedia and they'll note the tweaks done to them throughout the generations. Heck, just look up the versions on Bulbapedia and they'll include mechanic changes.
GF do seem to confuse BST/Legenary-Mythical status for overall power. Though that could be maybe why they started doing themed competitions, get some variety going. They could also maybe try applying some psychology with that if there is a overly good Pokemon then naturally people would start making counters for them thus those using that Pokemon on a whim may decide to focus on another Pokemon to get around those counters thus only those dedicated to using that Pokemon would be using it.
1. Then what was your first sentence referring to?
2. As Karxrida said, when they remake a game they only for the paired versions and usually add elements from the third version to the remake. Now for the Gen I remakes there was really nothing to add, Yellow was more meant to be a special edition and to those in Japan their third version was Blue. For Gen II remakes you saw elements from Crystal, mainly concerning Suicune having an elevated role and even the addition of Eusine.
However Gen III is where problems would start. Gen III really expanded on the idea of their being two games by having the evil team you faced in each be different. Emerald made both teams the villain and changed the 8th Gym Leader and Champion. So what would they do for the Gen III remake? Well I'm guessing the complications this brought made them decide to stick heavily to just the paired games. We saw references to Emerald here and there but they decided to forgo Emerald and instead focus on updating the story of Gen III to incorporate the Mega Evolution mechanic.
But I'm getting off track here. The main point is that if you wanted elements from Emerald in a Gen III remake ORAS was your only chance and they decided to go a different direction due to story difficulty (though admittedly this is a weak excuse as I could come up with a few solutions) and wanting to have Mega Evolutions in the story (after all we are on a new timeline).
That all said they shouldn't have the same problem with Gen IV as it follow the same story in both versions though I have no clue wnat they'll do with Gen V unless they plan on remaking both paired games, but that probably won't be an issue until YEARS from now (though considering what happened to ORAS maybe they should start some planning).
Like it wouldn't make sense for all the Gym Leaders to be as they were (especially the kid characters) in BW2's Pokemon World Tournament or having the Battle Maison in the ORAS's Battle Resort? Being how many people were upset with the Gen III Battle Frontier not being included I wouldn't be surprised they added it in, replacing the Battle Tower with something else of course (maybe going with what the international change to Anabel's title and expanding on the Battle Salon part of it).
Well, the good thing is that Black and White has self contained stories, so not having Black 2 and White 2 isn't a deal breaker. Also, they could do a mini-remake of the story in the post game.
That sounds like when .xxx domains began to be sold. My college and many others bought up as many domains as possible to avoid having things like (university)girls(dot)xxx. It's all about covering their asses so someone else doesn't mess with their names and junk.
NEW OPINION:
I really like Unown. Yeah, they suck competitively, but I've always found the concept to be really cool and I have a lot of nostalgia for Pokémon the Movie 3. I've even had fun trying to collect them all (which I have). Also, it was funny to have all of the letter seals for your Poké Balls and have it say rude things when you send them out (which is why the seal function was never returned).
I really like Unown. Yeah, they suck competitively, but I've always found the concept to be really cool and I have a lot of nostalgia for Pokémon the Movie 3. I've even had fun trying to collect them all (which I have). Also, it was funny to have all of the letter seals for your Poké Balls and have it say rude things when you send them out (which is why the seal function was never returned).
I also find the Unown to be an interesting concept, and I think we all have a complete Alphabet (I have a complete alphabet in both my Y and Alpha Sapphire games. For Y they were brought up from my Diamond, for ORAS I got the Mirage Cave with them inside). However I wish they did more with them, you'd think a Pokemon representing every letter in the English language plus two punctuation would be used for something. Like if you're afraid someone spelling a curse word with them just apply the filter you do with everything else.
I do think they should have had more significance though...I don't think much happened in the Ruins of Alph and that one unown ruins from Firered/Leafgreen regarding them. I did like the concept of them.
Yellow and Crystal were 'special' editions so they are more sideline. Also, how do you know they're not planning to remake those in the future?
It's been WAY too long for them to release those versions. Hell, it passed FR/LG's 10th anniversary already. I don't think a Yellow version will come out anytime soon. We're more likely to get another Red/Green and Gold/Silver remakes than Yellow or Crystal remakes. I can see a Diamond/Pearl remake being like OR/AS with a whole secondary post-game story for capturing Giratina. Gen 5 was the only one I wouldn't really know what they would do with because both games are a big part of the story (you know what would REALLY be cool? Two games in one game pack but I know GF will never do that)
On the other hand, my unpopular opinion is that I would NEVER want a third version remake. The third version is never really as memorable as the first two games. You can't really tell me you spent more time in like Platinum than you did in Diamond or Pearl. And I can already tell that I won't play Z as much as I did Y. It would be better to implement plot elements in a remake of the first two (to explain the legendary in question), but I don't think it's necessary to make a whole new game to do that.
I think pokemon Diamond is more nostalgic to me personally than platinum but then for me, Emerald was more than saphire or ruby as it had better features and I played it more, so I do think they should do an Emerald remake but not a platinum remake.
Another unpopular opinion: Delibird is a great pokemon and show be used competitatively.
Additionally-Dunsparce should recieve a mega evolution which should be poison flying and then they should make another one which is poison dragon type.
Never thought I'd see the day when these 3 phrases are used in the same sentence.
Just so this isn't a shitpost, I might be the only one annoyed at why they stopped the tradition of having Cynthia randomly appear in every game. The in-game fights against her is way better than the joke of a champion we got in Unova / Kalos.
Dude did you really just nostalgia trip D/P...
Platinum was superior on every aspect to them, DP was clunky, slow, had poorly dex design and suffered way more in the shift to something that was actually good in the leap to a third version... PT being completely superior to DP is completely justified in a technical and overall gaming experience level at that point.
RS vs E is debatable, b Frontier and magma base where nice touches but it feels just like a plus version with better breeding.
RB to Y and GS to C are understandable given their time frame but PT was such a big leap game experience wise to the completely inferior DP it's really hard for me to understand how anyone could say that.
Platinum was superior on every aspect to them, DP was clunky, slow, had poorly dex design and suffered way more in the shift to something that was actually good in the leap to a third version... PT being completely superior to DP is completely justified in a technical and overall gaming experience level at that point.
RS vs E is debatable, b Frontier and magma base where nice touches but it feels just like a plus version with better breeding.
RB to Y and GS to C are understandable given their time frame but PT was such a big leap game experience wise to the completely inferior DP it's really hard for me to understand how anyone could say that.
That is an opinion. It depends on your viewpoint. For me, diamond was nostalgic because it was way back in 2008 and it was one of my first pokemon games. The music was good, the plot was good and platinum developed on that but it was diamond and pearl which started the whole thing so...
Once you go platinum you can't go back DP, all the flaws it has burst in your face and it kind of feels like a drag, heck I might use the term unplayable.
What flaws exactly?
I mean, you can't exactly say "you can't exactly be nostalgic for that" just because something was bad. You could argue the person as a kid should have had something of a higher quality but you can't say they didn't enjoy it lol; I've seen people be nostalgic for shit like transformers energon
Me personally I'm able to get past my nostalgia of DP... only to the point where I would always play Platinum over them because it's a much better game and I really fuckin want Platinum
Slowdown issues, lack of polish (the gameboy colour game has animations for Pokémon but this doesn't...?) the incredibly lackluster Pokémon selection (aside from the only two fire-types thing, I think this is literally the only game in the series to have less Pokémon to choose from than the last discounting remakes for obvious reasons), the fact that there's a ton of great new evolutions like Togekiss, Electivire and Rhyperior... but they aren't in the main game and in some cases you need a previous game in the series to get them. It really feels like an unfinished game to me when everything's just so... lackluster and unpolished.
But I find that true of EVERY SINGLE Third Version. Emerald feels more polished than Ruby and Sapphire. Platinum was definitely more polished than Diamond and Pearl. Yellow was so well polished that people prefer the older versions since they had all the glitches.
But, you know, that doesn't mean that you don't feel nostalgic and stuff for it. I definitely feel more nostalgic for Diamond over Platinum. I put over 600 hours in Diamond but less than 200 in Platinum.
By the time the third version comes out, you are already used to the generation and it lost all the "magic" of being new.
pokemon should stop making new pokemon and just make better spinoffs / dlc for existing games since theres already like 900 or something
then we can have more focus on gameplay/writing improvements etc
like i want a pokemon racing game better than dash and like uh
maybe a game set during those pokemon wars from lucario and the mystery of mew you knowm sayin
or or like
pokemon fashion, I'd wear that like actually good fashion
then we can have more focus on gameplay/writing improvements etc
like i want a pokemon racing game better than dash and like uh
maybe a game set during those pokemon wars from lucario and the mystery of mew you knowm sayin
or or like
pokemon fashion, I'd wear that like actually good fashion
I agree with this except with the not making new Pokemon. One of the things I really liked about XY was that we didn't get loads of new Pokemon. And the 70 something (I don't remember the exact amount) we got were all pretty decent to me at least. Good designs, nice names, everything I like.
I think the best way to go would be around 50-70 new Pokemon a generation, and then concentrate on making great gameplay or an amazing story.
Can't deny, I would love a Pokemon fashion or racing game.
Or both.
Pretty much this, if I'm given the choice to replay a game from 0 DP isn't going to be an option when PT solved almost every problem of such an unpolished game.
Here's how the initial paired versions, third versions, and remakes should be (and how FRLG and HGSS did it):
The paired versions set things up, introduce new Pokémon, etc.
The third version polishes the experience and adds new elements.
The remakes take the base of the paired versions, add the newer elements of the third version (when possible) and the game engine of the current Generation and puts them together.
Blue (the actual third version of Generation I) eliminated some glitches (though the Blue engine was used for the international Red and Blue, we know not all of them) and changed the capture rates. These capture rates for the original 151 haven't really changed that much (barring some possible Legendary changes in recent years) and were in FireRed and LeafGreen.
Crystal added a few things, including female player characters, the Suicune subplot (with Suicune replacing Ho-Oh's place in Gold, with Ho-Oh appearing later in the game in the same place), the Unown Dex, and the Battle Tower. HeartGold and SoulSilver had a modifed Suicune subplot, a replacement Unown Dex, the female player character (duh), and had the Generation IV Battle Frontier where the Crystal Battle Tower was.
Emerald featured a hybrid plot between Ruby and Sapphire, but it isn't something that could be incorporated into the split versions. The differences really are having both teams be villains (with them splitting the activity they would normally do alone in their respective games), having to go to the Sky Pillar and encountering Rayquaza so it could calm down Groudon and Kyogre, the replacement of Wallace and Steven with Juan and Wallace, Gym Leader rematches, and everything related to the Battle Frontier. Most of Emerald's elements (other than the Battle Frontier and Gym rematches) would have fit in making a Ruby and Sapphire remake.
I really do agree with this. We don't need to stop making new Pokémon, just slow down to a nice 50-70. This way they have more time to focus on a few, making them better (though that won't stop them from screwing up. Am I right ugliest thing I've ever seen and Special attacker with Moxie?).
I'd prefer them to introduce fewer Pokemon too.
Back in the interview, Ken Sugimori said " it is impossible to remember every one of them. "
He had a point.
If we keep adding more than 100 each time, it will be too much sooner than if they introduce like 50-70.
I think 50-70 is a nice number.
Third Version: I sadly have a feeling the 2 paired versions + third version is a necessary evil, at least for Pokemon games that are first released for a new handheld. As Vader_the_White said, the paired versions you can see at them essentially pitching all the new ideas and setting things up. It's needed so that then the 3rd version can be built upon it and expand on ideas they weren't fully able to implement, fix or adjust things that they saw problems with in the paired versions, and so that the company makes money and can continue. Tauros Mulch? Yes. However only way around it is if you give GF indefinite time to do everything they want... and the problem with that is the company isn't making any money while spending a ton of it creating & testing, they won't be able to fix or do major adjustments until the next generation, and for some developers they need a limit as they'll just keep one making improvements and may never be ready (I'd like to think GF is above that, but who knows as they never were allowed to do that). We love the third versions because they're more polished and have expanded upon the gameplay, story, and new content but the reason they were able to do that was because the paired versions took the brunt of the problems and provided the foundation.
"But why buy the any of the paired versions then"? A vital question which up until Gen V had no real good answer besides people not wanting to wait to play with the new Pokemon and see what that generation has to offer for the most part. Speaking of which, I feel Gen V was able to get out of this "trap" since it was the second generation to be released on a same handheld thus could work off everything that Gen IV had set up. Also they had the idea of making their "third version" instead being a 2nd pair of sequels which sort of made their own "mini-generation" just using the same region and Pokemon as the first paired versions.
Less Pokemon, More Story: Vader_the_White once again says what I'm thinking: we don't need to stop, just make less. By now we have enough Pokemon that they can sort of start recycling the older Pokemon to fill out a region. As they started to do with Gen VI, there doesn't need to be so many new Pokemon and rather having them fill certain criteria instead focus on making them unique (and viable). We still need new Pokemon, but not as many and not really filling in the roles that previous Pokemon can fill in just as easily. And at the same time you can focus a bit more on the story or build on the region/Pokemon world (maybe even using the new Pokemon to do so or expanding the roles of previous Pokemon). I can go on and on about that aspect so I'll just stop right here, the last thing I'll say is that they could also REALLY take a look at the older Pokemon and maybe adjust their stats, movepools, and maybe Abilities more than just giving some Pokemon +10 in a certain stat and giving a final evo a Mega Evolution.
As I recall people gave Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 flak because Capcom never released the fighters in those games as DLC for the original MvC3 which I think they promised to. I think everyone was expecting/dreading an Ultimate edition, but they thought/were promised that any new fighters would be DLC to the older version from the new version. Also was that the game that had on-disc DLC?
New Unpopular Opinion: I don't think GF should be afraid to replace a Mega Evolution if its just not working out as they hoped. If they can't salvage what they did with it at all I think they should be able to go "we're retiring this Mega Evolution" and replacing it with one that's (hopefully) better (be it by gameplay or design). Sounds harsh to say, but I think for certain Pokemon with a lackluster Mega Evo they'd probably like to know they have another chance.
Also I don't think a Mego Evo should be restricted to just a +100 Stat boost. If a Pokemon's stat demands it, I think they can add another +50 or even another +100 if their Mega stats really could use that boost to make their Mega work.
"But why buy the any of the paired versions then"? A vital question which up until Gen V had no real good answer besides people not wanting to wait to play with the new Pokemon and see what that generation has to offer for the most part. Speaking of which, I feel Gen V was able to get out of this "trap" since it was the second generation to be released on a same handheld thus could work off everything that Gen IV had set up. Also they had the idea of making their "third version" instead being a 2nd pair of sequels which sort of made their own "mini-generation" just using the same region and Pokemon as the first paired versions.
Less Pokemon, More Story: Vader_the_White once again says what I'm thinking: we don't need to stop, just make less. By now we have enough Pokemon that they can sort of start recycling the older Pokemon to fill out a region. As they started to do with Gen VI, there doesn't need to be so many new Pokemon and rather having them fill certain criteria instead focus on making them unique (and viable). We still need new Pokemon, but not as many and not really filling in the roles that previous Pokemon can fill in just as easily. And at the same time you can focus a bit more on the story or build on the region/Pokemon world (maybe even using the new Pokemon to do so or expanding the roles of previous Pokemon). I can go on and on about that aspect so I'll just stop right here, the last thing I'll say is that they could also REALLY take a look at the older Pokemon and maybe adjust their stats, movepools, and maybe Abilities more than just giving some Pokemon +10 in a certain stat and giving a final evo a Mega Evolution.
As I recall people gave Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 flak because Capcom never released the fighters in those games as DLC for the original MvC3 which I think they promised to. I think everyone was expecting/dreading an Ultimate edition, but they thought/were promised that any new fighters would be DLC to the older version from the new version. Also was that the game that had on-disc DLC?
New Unpopular Opinion: I don't think GF should be afraid to replace a Mega Evolution if its just not working out as they hoped. If they can't salvage what they did with it at all I think they should be able to go "we're retiring this Mega Evolution" and replacing it with one that's (hopefully) better (be it by gameplay or design). Sounds harsh to say, but I think for certain Pokemon with a lackluster Mega Evo they'd probably like to know they have another chance.
Also I don't think a Mego Evo should be restricted to just a +100 Stat boost. If a Pokemon's stat demands it, I think they can add another +50 or even another +100 if their Mega stats really could use that boost to make their Mega work.