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Project The Next Best Thing - ORAS OU Edition V3 - FINISHED
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Psychic Diancie
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Psychic Diancie
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Gravity Diancie
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Psychic Diancie
The Winner of Week 27 goes to Recreant's Psychic Mega Diancie! Congratulations for entering the Hall of Fame!
The Pokemon for Week 28 is Volcanion!
Brand New Pokemon, so pretty much no description at the time, also ignore the SmogDex's Volcanion set since I'm allowing any set at the time...
P.S. Sorry for being very late, I have terrible memory...
The Pokemon for Week 28 is Volcanion!
Brand New Pokemon, so pretty much no description at the time, also ignore the SmogDex's Volcanion set since I'm allowing any set at the time...
P.S. Sorry for being very late, I have terrible memory...
Reserving Flame Charge
Volcanion @ Life Orb
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 24 HP / 252 SpA / 232 Spe
Modest Nature
- Steam Eruption / Scald
- Flame Charge
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power [Ghost] / Sludge Bomb
So this set allows Volcanion to hold its own vs offensive teams as an offensive powerhouse, something that a set like choice specs is not able to do. The EVs allow Volcanion to outspeed the Latis at +1 and be able nail them with an hp ghost which kos latios after a bit of chip damage, something that is quite easy to come by. As for the Steam Eruption/Scald debate that has been quite the topic, while I personally feel like Steam Eruption is a really bad move compared to scald, there's no denying that on an offensive pokemon it is able to pull is weight. Scald is a possibliity though because in exchange for the power you get a more consistent and much higher pp move. As for hp ghost vs sludge bomb, it all depends on whether or not your team runs pursuit support, if it does then drop HP ghost, if it does run it simple as that lol. You can also run a timid nature to outspeed starmie but the drop in power level is rather significant.
Volcanion @ Life Orb
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 24 HP / 252 SpA / 232 Spe
Modest Nature
- Steam Eruption / Scald
- Flame Charge
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power [Ghost] / Sludge Bomb
So this set allows Volcanion to hold its own vs offensive teams as an offensive powerhouse, something that a set like choice specs is not able to do. The EVs allow Volcanion to outspeed the Latis at +1 and be able nail them with an hp ghost which kos latios after a bit of chip damage, something that is quite easy to come by. As for the Steam Eruption/Scald debate that has been quite the topic, while I personally feel like Steam Eruption is a really bad move compared to scald, there's no denying that on an offensive pokemon it is able to pull is weight. Scald is a possibliity though because in exchange for the power you get a more consistent and much higher pp move. As for hp ghost vs sludge bomb, it all depends on whether or not your team runs pursuit support, if it does then drop HP ghost, if it does run it simple as that lol. You can also run a timid nature to outspeed starmie but the drop in power level is rather significant.
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reserving rest talk
Volcanion @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Steam Eruption
- Fire Blast
So basically we take advantage of volcanions amazing bulk and defensive typing and make it a defensive tank. Here are some calcs if you aint convinced
Basically this thing is really tanky and can survive a lot of supereffective moves, get steam eruption off, and can stall out mons that dont have super effective stuff. This thing walls all the S tiers(not too sure about torn) and beats a lot of other things. It's hella fun to use and surprises the fuck out of your opponents. You still have a lot of power from your monstrous Spa stat even with no EVs into it.
Volcanion @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Steam Eruption
- Fire Blast
So basically we take advantage of volcanions amazing bulk and defensive typing and make it a defensive tank. Here are some calcs if you aint convinced
252+ Atk Landorus-T Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Volcanion: 248-294 (68.1 - 80.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
32 Atk Mega Diancie Diamond Storm vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Volcanion: 212-252 (58.2 - 69.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Mold Breaker Excadrill Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Volcanion: 216-254 (59.3 - 69.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Garchomp Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Volcanion: 210-248 (57.6 - 68.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Pure Power Mega Medicham High Jump Kick vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Volcanion: 225-265 (61.8 - 72.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Choice Band Tyranitar Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Volcanion: 350-414 (96.1 - 113.7%) -- 75% chance to OHKO !!!!
32 Atk Mega Diancie Diamond Storm vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Volcanion: 212-252 (58.2 - 69.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Mold Breaker Excadrill Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Volcanion: 216-254 (59.3 - 69.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Garchomp Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Volcanion: 210-248 (57.6 - 68.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Pure Power Mega Medicham High Jump Kick vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Volcanion: 225-265 (61.8 - 72.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Choice Band Tyranitar Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Volcanion: 350-414 (96.1 - 113.7%) -- 75% chance to OHKO !!!!
Basically this thing is really tanky and can survive a lot of supereffective moves, get steam eruption off, and can stall out mons that dont have super effective stuff. This thing walls all the S tiers(not too sure about torn) and beats a lot of other things. It's hella fun to use and surprises the fuck out of your opponents. You still have a lot of power from your monstrous Spa stat even with no EVs into it.
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Defensive Volcanion
Volcanion @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 248 HP / 148 Def / 112 Spe
Bold Nature
- Haze/Roar
- Toxic
- Scald
- Flamethrower
Basically this is a set designed for fatter builds that can be a cool pivot into mons like scizor, azu, clef, etc while also being able to spread status and shit. Scald and flamethrower are cool stab moves, toxic hits shit like lati and most fat waters that want to try and wall you, while haze and roar both help deal with boosting sweepers. Sableye is a great teammate since it reflects rocks and can burn some dragon types that annoy volc while also knocking lati twins that attempt to switch in. Chansey with heal bell can help provide clerical support to get rid of annoying status like toxic for volc. Skarm clears hazards with defog while also being a backup check to scizor and shit to prevent too much pressure from being exerted on volcanion. All of these are stall mainstays, so it's not too big of a deal to run them, and there are probably a ton of other team options that you can run..
Volcanion @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 248 HP / 148 Def / 112 Spe
Bold Nature
- Haze/Roar
- Toxic
- Scald
- Flamethrower
Basically this is a set designed for fatter builds that can be a cool pivot into mons like scizor, azu, clef, etc while also being able to spread status and shit. Scald and flamethrower are cool stab moves, toxic hits shit like lati and most fat waters that want to try and wall you, while haze and roar both help deal with boosting sweepers. Sableye is a great teammate since it reflects rocks and can burn some dragon types that annoy volc while also knocking lati twins that attempt to switch in. Chansey with heal bell can help provide clerical support to get rid of annoying status like toxic for volc. Skarm clears hazards with defog while also being a backup check to scizor and shit to prevent too much pressure from being exerted on volcanion. All of these are stall mainstays, so it's not too big of a deal to run them, and there are probably a ton of other team options that you can run..
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can we use a mixed set on volcanion?
EQ fire blast stream eruption filler ?
EQ fire blast stream eruption filler ?
Shuca Berry Volcanion
Volcanion @ Shuca Berry
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 96 HP / 232 SpA / 180 Spe
Modest Nature
- Steam Eruption
- Fire Blast
- Sludge Wave
- Haze
This set is a nice emergency check to Ground types, the speed investment outspeeds Defensive Lando & the HP investment allows Volcanion to live LO Adamant Excadrill EQ after Rocks:
252+ Atk Life Orb Excadrill Earthquake vs. 96 HP / 0 Def Shuca Berry Volcanion: 207-243 (63.6 - 74.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
I use Haze in the last slot in the event that I need to deal with a setup sweeper, although you can easily put any coverage option that you would like in that spot.
Volcanion @ Shuca Berry
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 96 HP / 232 SpA / 180 Spe
Modest Nature
- Steam Eruption
- Fire Blast
- Sludge Wave
- Haze
This set is a nice emergency check to Ground types, the speed investment outspeeds Defensive Lando & the HP investment allows Volcanion to live LO Adamant Excadrill EQ after Rocks:
252+ Atk Life Orb Excadrill Earthquake vs. 96 HP / 0 Def Shuca Berry Volcanion: 207-243 (63.6 - 74.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
I use Haze in the last slot in the event that I need to deal with a setup sweeper, although you can easily put any coverage option that you would like in that spot.
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