If logic exists in Alola and regular Pokemon cannot evolve into their Alolan forms if they were not caught in Alola, I guess there could be some kind of post-game area where non-Alolan Pokemon can be caught. And viceversa in subsequent games.
Example:
Alolan Ninetails F (Assuming Snow Warning) and Kantonian Ninetails M (Drought), will breed a M Alolan Vulpix with Snow Warning. Since both are hidden abilities,
the chances will be go towards having a the hidden ability and not to WHICH hidden ability.
Father has Heat Wave and Power Swap, but only will pass the later one since (presumably) will be a shared egg move for both forms.
But if the plus is anything like the pentagon, ANY Pokémon caught, given, or bred in Sun, Moon, or any other Generation VII game will have it, regardless of if the parents are from those games. Like I've said, there will likely be a hidden flag within the Pokémon's code and that it will function identically to how Shellos/Gastrodon work. It makes the most sense, works for future games, and it has precedence.About breeding: I actually think it's simple.
The Pokemon will evolve according to the symbol of the region. If both parents have the same symbol, it will inherit that symbol. Otherwise, inherits the same as the female (As with most features with breeding).
If the Pokemon has the plus, it will be Alolan whenever region (From here and forwards) goes.
The egg moves and abilities will be define after this, so you probably can't pass some moves to a different form.
Example:
Alolan Ninetails F (Assuming Snow Warning) and Kantonian Ninetails M (Drought), will breed a M Alolan Vulpix with Snow Warning. Since both are hidden abilities,
the chances will be go towards having a the hidden ability and not to WHICH hidden ability.
Father has Heat Wave and Power Swap, but only will pass the later one since (presumably) will be a shared egg move for both forms.
I think they will change the mechanics of breeding to fit what I said. In case of the Pentagon, because it didn't matter. Now that it does matter, it will probably be a largest role. So I-VI would be just about the same and then from now on become another aspect to considerate of breeding.But if the plus is anything like the pentagon, ANY Pokémon caught, given, or bred in Sun, Moon, or any other Generation VII game will have it, regardless of if the parents are from those games. Like I've said, there will likely be a hidden flag within the Pokémon's code and that it will function identically to how Shellos/Gastrodon work. It makes the most sense, works for future games, and it has precedence.
Your statement on egg moves do make sense.
This is logical, but you're talking about breeding in a game with Hot Skitty on Wailord Action.Honestly, I can see certain Alolan Pokemon just not being able to breed with their Kantonian counterparts altogether. Over time, through genetic drift, the gene pools of two populations that are not reproducing with one another might change so much that they are genetically unable to interbreed anymore.
That could be the case for Sandshrew and Vulpix if the devs were really feeling like being as meticulous as possible when handling movepools that aren't even remotely interchangeable. But that only time will tell.
Damn you got me there lolThis is logical, but you're talking about breeding in a game with Hot Skitty on Wailord Action.
Hey guys! I don't have an image but the Riddler leak mentioned a some new information and images. One being two images mentioning a monkey plus a football player.
This is Game Freak we are talking about. When it comes to mechanics, it is fair to look at the past. Them making the plus different just for Alolan Pokémon is unlikely since they don't like change. Also, they don't have to make it obvious if a Pokémon will evolve into a Alolan form or not. I mean, we have the following examples of difficult or impossible to tell:I think they will change the mechanics of breeding to fit what I said. In case of the Pentagon, because it didn't matter. Now that it does matter, it will probably be a largest role. So I-VI would be just about the same and then from now on become another aspect to considerate of breeding.
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3773780366?pn=16 Scroll down to see (Near the bottom).
Sorry needed to see how to use spoiler tags, but this is the link to what I meant before.
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3773780366?pn=16 Scroll down to see (Near the bottom).
Sorry needed to see how to use spoiler tags, but this is the link to what I meant before.
I didn't see what you were talking about, but I did see a pic with all of the Kanto Pokemon. Some evolution chains were circled, including all of the ones with Alola Forms, which I'm guessing means that it's a list of who's getting an Alola. If that's what it means, then I can tell it's fake. Pikachu, Cubone, and Exeggcute were circled even though I think it's confirmed that only their evolutions have Alola forms. Even more notable is that Rattata isn't circled.
This was the main thing that I was trying to get at, and I apologize for not telling any moderators. Since the Riddler leak has been shown before on the thread I thought it would be ok to post it. I'm quite sure that this is the same person as the riddler, but ill stop with the leaking things after this.I didn't see what you were talking about, but I did see a pic with all of the Kanto Pokemon. Some evolution chains were circled, including all of the ones with Alola Forms, which I'm guessing means that it's a list of who's getting an Alola. If that's what it means, then I can tell it's fake. Pikachu, Cubone, and Exeggcute were circled even though I think it's confirmed that only their evolutions have Alola forms. Even more notable is that Rattata isn't circled.
I can't read this page, but I believe that I understood enough to determine that's it's not a reliable source.
I don't know how many pages ago it was, so I'm not blaming you for missing it, but I believe that Moderators asked for people to ask them before posting about leaks. We prefer to avoid baseless speculation and wishlisting here, and leaks that don't have anything backing them up tend to lead to those things.
This was the main thing that I was trying to get at, and I apologize for not telling any moderators. Since the Riddler leak has been shown before on the thread I thought it would be ok to post it. I'm quite sure that this is the same person as the riddler, but ill stop with the leaking things after this.View attachment 68793
This was near the bottom of the page.
I wasn't asking you to stop period, I was just asking you to ask permission next time. I wasn't trying to stop discussion about all potential leaks, I was just trying to stop discussion about potential leaks that don't have anything backing them up. If there is enough evidence to support it, I'd happily look at a leak.This was the main thing that I was trying to get at, and I apologize for not telling any moderators. Since the Riddler leak has been shown before on the thread I thought it would be ok to post it. I'm quite sure that this is the same person as the riddler, but ill stop with the leaking things after this.View attachment 68793
This was near the bottom of the page.
No, this is a picture posted by the Chinese Riddler, whom is a confirmed Pokemon insider. (Though NOT responsible for the Chinese leak I translated)Looks like the person is just gathering rumored Pokemon together in one graph, using images to represent a Pokemon if they don't have what the actual Pokemon looks like. Nothing to really take from it.
And I found out something a bit disappointing. Pulverizing Pancake's Japanese name is... Go All Out. Kudos to the translation team for giving it a much more interesting and humorous name. Like it would have still gotten attention if it was called Go All Out in English, but maybe not to the memetic level that it did.
No, this is a picture posted by the Chinese Riddler, whom is a confirmed Pokemon insider. (Though NOT responsible for the Chinese leak I translated)
He just doesn't want to give us direct unrevealed information. So he posts riddles and sometimes, he says that certain leaks from 4chan are correct.
Anything posted by him is obviously true.
I DEMAND permission to post Chinese Riddler's stuff on Smogon at once!!
Definitely 100%.
I've already translated a few on Bulbaforums, and I request permission to copy and paste them here!!
Around 5 new Pokemon.How much information is contained in what this person has said? Obviously I wish to keep speculation to a minimum, but I would like to know roughly how much "more" information is to be "leaked" before I give the go ahead. Is it a few pokemon? mechanics? Nothing hugely important?
Around 5 new Pokemon.
1 game mechanism similar to Megas.
Also hints which Alola Pokemon will have a family (directly)
Actually this was kind of what I was trying to get at, but I decided to just to talk about the monkey since its relevant to the Chinese leak.Around 5 new Pokemon.
1 game mechanism similar to Megas.
Also hints which Alola Pokemon will have a family (directly)