Gen VII: Pokemon Sun and Moon Discussion MKII

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I recall CoroCoro mentioning a while back that the starters share a secret with Rockruff. I think this means we're definitely getting different forms for the starters depending on time of day.

EDIT: Unless there is another gimmick to them. Kinda hope this is it, though.
 
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I know there's no point adding "DAE THINK LUSAMINE LOOKS LIKE BEAUTY BEAST" since EVERYBODY knows and it's been said a bazillion times already, but it's worth noting that not only do they share design themes, they share an actual pose, only mirrored (and UB02 isn't doing the awesome shoulder slant). Thought it was interesting how blatant they're being.
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It is also possible that the UBs are based on the human characters they resemble rather than being those characters. Sort of like semi-clones.
 
On the whole matter about the Ultra Beasts... a question pops into my head: What makes a Pokemon? What makes the Porygon line, an artificially-made living computer, a Pokemon and what does not make the Ultra Beasts one? I mean, being alien is not exactly a point given the Clefairy line is given minor hints that they are aliens, and Deoxys is one, yet they are Pokemon.

Hope a question like that is answered in-game.
 
I'm actually surprised that we didn't get a Z for that same reason. 90 % of the work was already done. Making the engine is expensive. Animating all the models, designing buildings, creating textures, writing music, bugtesting everyting, that's where the time and money goes. Making a third version is just scripting, while doing very few new things. I doubt the development costs are even a quarter of what they are for base games. They tend to sell almost as well as the base games, though, so the profit margins should be larger.

Or, try flipping it around. So Game Freak spent a large sum of money creating the XY engine and designing Kalos. Past experience and fan expectations dictate that they could use the assets to create two games (XY and Z - X and Y are similiar enough to be counted as one game), for very little cost. Yet for some reason, they chose to only make one game. They only harvested half of what they sowed, so to speak. Sure, ORAS made very good use of XY's techical prep work, but the Kalos region was under-utilized. The design work that went into XY could have been used again for Z, much like the technical work was re-used for ORAS.

I definitely feel like there was a Z version that was cancelled to make room for SM. Z-moves? Zygarde formes? Those practically scream cut content. Then late last year all the zygarde stuff started coming out for every other thing pokemon related... except the games. And now all that stuff has been shoved into SM.
 
On the whole matter about the Ultra Beasts... a question pops into my head: What makes a Pokemon? What makes the Porygon line, an artificially-made living computer, a Pokemon and what does not make the Ultra Beasts one? I mean, being alien is not exactly a point given the Clefairy line is given minor hints that they are aliens, and Deoxys is one, yet they are Pokemon.

Hope a question like that is answered in-game.
To add to that, being from another dimension doens't qualify them to not be pokemon either. I mean look at Giratina, Arceus, Palkia/Dialga, etc. They're all from different dimension, but yet still Pokemon listed in the Pokédex.
 
On the whole matter about the Ultra Beasts... a question pops into my head: What makes a Pokemon? What makes the Porygon line, an artificially-made living computer, a Pokemon and what does not make the Ultra Beasts one? I mean, being alien is not exactly a point given the Clefairy line is given minor hints that they are aliens, and Deoxys is one, yet they are Pokemon.

Hope a question like that is answered in-game.

There's one surefire test for Pokemon-ness, and the pokeball is the litmus paper. :P
 
Oh man Rockruff's night evo is the biggest disappointment of Sun and Moon. It's awful, looks like a crappy fursona a kid would draw because he didn't want pay to commission an artist to draw it.

His day evo is great though! I was expecting something really different and more themed around the werewolf for Rockruff's evo but overall it's not bad. It's one Pokemon with different forms though so I'm guessing both are Rock.

Ultra Beasts are really weird. That's all I can say really lol. Very interested how they work in the plot. Just please don't be catchable. I don't want that buff mosquito near my team.
 
It may be of little significance, but there are images of UB-2 Expansion fighting vs Tapu Koko. That means they may be confirmed to act like a "Pokemon" just like props back in BW's movie studio. Except that they may play significant plot roles this time and threatens our team of Pokemon.

Yeah, UB are ugly, but that's the point for me. If they are the antagonistic force, that means I can rearrange their faces with my Pokemon. And pretty sure they're not catchable and instead the plot demands us to prevent them from going out or anything.
 
It seems well covered that UB02: Beauty looks quite a lot like Lusamine. But doesn't the shape of it also look a whole lot like Wimpod? Imagine Wimpod upright, the sort of fish shape with the tails on the end and the antenna on top. It also has a segmented sort of arthropod design. They are going with total opposites on the UB's though because that's sort of the last thing you think of when you see a Wimpod, right? Beauty

I think the same goes for UB03: Expansion. I will eat my left shoe if that is not a giant, red, juiced-up Cutiefly (or its evolution). It seems to be the opposite of Cutiefly as well, massively beefy and powerful, but the body plan is the same down to the pointy little proboscis, four legs, two wings

Any thoughts on this? I registered just to mention it XD
 
I don't think they are Pokemon but what if it has anything to do with an attempt to do the Ash-Greninja transformation? But it fails because "they don't have the bond of friendship" or something. That'd be cool.

Also, I really hope Gladion turns out to be a good guy, that would be cool. I want him to be good but misguided too because I like his design.
 
It seems like UB-02 Expansion is named so because that thing is well... swelling in the muscles. And those muscles are its deadly weapon. That's a lame name when I learn the reason of its name, but it can be interesting if this thing is used for "expanding" the evil faction's purpose.

UB-02 Beauty is named so for its well... beauty. Apparently even all Pokemon of different genders are fascinated by its beauty and will lose hostility.


Well, this may be interesting. I wonder how they take the role in the plot.
 
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