Gen VII: Pokemon Sun and Moon Discussion MKII

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So Eeevee Top teir at least in little cup due to that Awesome looking Z move. Think it can appear anywhere else or no?

Rugbey monkey pretty much COnfirms the chinese leaks now right? Its ability is interesting. so it copies dead ally abilities? And that Psychic monkey's exclusive move can be quite good in doubles, when combined with telepathy

Pikachu gets a Z move, but is it worth trading out light bulb?

Pokemon Amee is now pokemon refresh. I like the look of it. And trainer custimization looks a lot more detailed now

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Count Bleck said:
Thank GOD we have that super weird Baton Pass Clause.... Can you imagine this?

Eevee used Extreme Evoboost!

Eevee used Baton Pass!

Go! Garchomp!
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You are evil. That does sound amazing though. May even be worth using on some teams
 
It's interesting to see that not all Z-Move will be damaging moves. What kind of other stupid stat boost moves will we get?

The animation for Eevee's Z-Move takes forever and it looks incredibly corny. Will it work for the other Eeveelutions?
 
You know, Eevee's Z-Move is kind of the first look we've got in seeing exactly what kind of moves we're looking at in terms of power.

Though, maybe it's more powerful because it's on a NFE Pokemon? Because I don't want to imagine fully evolved Pokemon having moves that rival that in terms of strength. Pure damage ones would be pretty insane if they're supposed to be about as good.

I recall someone joked about a 100% freeze move.
...that might not be a joke now.
 
1. Eeveeveeveeveeveeveeveee....
2. Why does Pikachu need a Z move? Oh well, mascot priviledge, I guess.
3. RUGBY MONKEY CONFIRMED!!
4. Instruct looks really useful in VGC.
 
Siggu said:
+2 252+ SpA Eevee Stored Power (220 BP) vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Eviolite Chansey: 141-167 (21.9 - 26%) -- 4.8% chance to 4HKO

A move with no STAB coming from itemless 45 base Special Attack.
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I think you forgot to add the +2 to everything else

Also, did anyone see the Pikachu Z move and immediately think of this?

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TheMantyke said:
It rises to 220 BP making it Eevee's most powerful special option slightly ahead of Adaptability Hyper Voice (180 BP).
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Its possible if you wanna run a special eevee then, but most of the time you'll run physical I assume

Siggu said:
+2 252+ SpA Eevee Stored Power (220 BP) vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Eviolite Chansey: 141-167 (21.9 - 26%) -- 4.8% chance to 4HKO

A move with no STAB coming from itemless 45 base Special Attack.
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Well who would use a special move vs an Evolite chansey anyway? But that it could even 4HKO with only 45 base special attack is something right?
 
It seems that Pokémon-Amie is even more broken than before. I might not use it for my firs run unless I want to take at least a month to play the game. I might do that this time.

At least we have a lemur and "real" orangutan now, right?
 
Just dropping this bc idk if anybody else has noticed it but lycanroc definitely used something super effective on cloyster that went before ice shard. Rock type priority move confirmed? I think that'd be pretty sick even though honestly it'd be really annoying for like half the tiers which have high ranked rock types. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't see that move being mach punch/vacuum wave
e: oh main site confirmed this and now I feel really sad
 
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zferolie said:
Well who would use a special move vs an Evolite chansey anyway? But that it could even 4HKO with only 45 base special attack is something right?
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That's the point I wanted to make. If it can 4HKO a Chansey with Stored Power with no STAB, no boosting item and 45 base Special Attack, imagine it in LC.
 
The new trailer is up it's amazing!! Eevee It's gonna be so interesting to use now with its Z move all of its stats increase sharply!! I think it's going to be decent!!

Eevee is going to be too strong! and people said it can pass those stats and use extremespeed.

+2 is a x2 boost on stats right?! This is what jolly with max atk and speed Ev's, Eevee will use... 252 hp

418 atk, 272 def, 226 sp atk, 332 sp def and 458 speed!!

Pikachu gets a Z-move too of course! It's really cool to see!

Remember the leak with a Monkey that uses a Ball?! It's here! Passimian has the ability Receiver after an ally is defeated when it's on the field it will take over it's ability! It's fighting type!

It's counterpart Oranguru normal/psychich (looks like a ninja!) has the move instruct! it can make the ally pokemon use the move it just used again!

Lycanrock (midday form) has Sand Rush and keen eye and the priority rock move! it's counterpart midnight form is pure rock type...uses Counter...

Character costumization is here again!

A remade pokemon amie named as Pokemon Refresh takes a new approach than before!

It seems we get another currency Fc (Festival points) for clothes.
 
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TheMantyke said:
Oranguru looks fucking insane. Telepathy mon that can let your partner repeat its spread attack? Yes please!
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Instruct + Telepathy looks pretty crazy, I wonder if any other mons will get access to Instruct.

Darth Manaphy said:
You guys are all neglecting how broken this will be in Little Cup. I can just imagine the stone getting banned there.
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Yeah, Eevee's Z move is definitely going to be suspected in LC. Assuming it's not quickbanned it'll be fun while it lasts.

Count Bleck said:
So, according to the main site, Accelrock is Lycanroc exclusive. Sorry Rhyperior. Maybe another gen.
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Thank goodness, the last thing we needed was a widely distributed Rock-type priority move

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zferolie said:
Oh for sure Little cup will be decimated by this move.

I also forgot about stored power... How much damage would it do after this Boost?
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5 stats x 2 boosts per stat = 10 boosts in total 20 base power per stat boost is 20 x 10 which equals ~200 + the original 20 base power, so 220 probably
 
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Cainchin said:
The new trailer is up it's amazing!! Eevee It's gonna be so interesting to use now with it's Z move all of its stats increase sharply!! pair that with any other item that also boost stats and I think it's going to be decent!!
Pikachu gets a Z-move too of course! It's really cool to see!

Remember the leak with a Monkey that uses a Ball?! It's here! Passimian has the ability Receiver after an ally is defeated when it's on the field it will take over it's ability! It's fighting type!

It's counterpart Oranguru (looks like a ninja!) has the move instruct! it can make the ally pokemon use the move it just used again!

Lycanrock (midday form) has Sand Rush and keen eye and the priority rock move! it's counterpart midnight form is pure rock type...uses Counter...

Character costumization is here again!

A remade pokemon amie named as Pokemon Refresh takes a new approach than before!
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Eevee won't be able to hold a boosting item because it will have to hold a Z-Crystal to use its Z-Move.
 
So is there any way Eevee can appear outside of little cup? Maybe just for a baton pass set I guess?

Here's a scary thought. Eevee gets a Normal evolution that also can use this Z move

Siggu said:
That's the point I wanted to make. If it can 4HKO a Chansey with Stored Power with no STAB, no boosting item and 45 base Special Attack, imagine it in LC.
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Ah I got ya. I missunderstood. Yeah that is increadibly powerful. but would you use that and Hyper voice on a special set(Rounding off with Shadow ball and something else) Or go Physical with Return or double edge?

So got an Evil Doubles team idea. Shedinja and Passimian. Talk about nearly unkillable

Count Bleck said:
So, according to the main site, Accelrock is Lycanroc exclusive. Sorry Rhyperior. Maybe another gen.
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Not surprised. Maybe they will allow them to breed it though, who knows, but a priority rock move would screw over a lot of pokemon
 
I'm just happy we get XY's trainer customization with even more options at our disposal. Thank Arceus, the female's hat looks like something straight out of Spongebob. (yes, I'm gonna use the female, wanna fight about it?) Kinda sad we can't use Bank to transfer over mons from 6th Gen right away, had a couple pokes ready to use.

Also, Eevee confirmed to be more busted than any of its eight evos, and that not all Z-Moves will be attacks.
 
God I hope Z-move animations are skip able. Interesting we're getting 100% useless moves as there will be exclusive moves for NFE Pokemon and I doubt Maximum Evoboost is going to be allowed in little cup. (Although, I don't play little cup so excuse me if this is ignorant and I'm really off lol.)

Anyways, RUGBY MONKEY YES!! So that leak is 100% real. Which means we're getting a ghost Snowman yeeeessss!
This trailer definitely pushes Sun as the better version for me. Passimian (GREAT name!) and Lyconroc are much better looking than there Moon counterparts. Although Oranguru (or whatever it's called) looks interesting too.

Lyconroc is looking like there's a chance of being viable too. I'm guessing the move in the trailer is accel rock and it was shown out prioritizing Cloyster's ice shard. That with sand rush gives me hope. This trailer was so perfect to me!
 
Litra said:
Anyone else noticed in the customization part that it was using a different currency? It said FC instead of using the the normal Pokedollar symbol, which caught my eye since the previous regions had a universal currency.
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Seems like it might be similar to Lumiose City's style system. You get FCs for doing things, and they can only be spent on clothes. Good, because XY's fashion tended to eat into my money supply.
 
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