SPOILERS! Pokemon Sun and Moon Demo Discussion

[TheMantyke]

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Edit: Never mind, someone already mentioned it.

Kaphotics confirms Ash-Greninja's BST is indeed correct

 

[Gaburaisu]

If z moves are scaled of base move damage, then that means status z moves will not happen or will be very weak.

Extreme Evoboost is a status Z-Move. Exclusive. But it still exists.

 

[Cresselia92]

Whelp.

https://twitter.com/pokemon_PhD/status/788195362066591744

From one side, I'm quite disappointed since I wanted to know the stats of the new Pokemon to better build my in-game team. From the other side, I've got to give kudos to Game Freak and Nintendo for removing most of the data and keeping all that info still a secret for everybody.

 

[Count Bleck]

Whelp.

https://twitter.com/pokemon_PhD/status/788195362066591744

They learned! The spoiler hungry me is a bit upset, by Im actually a bit happy about this. More reasons to hold on to hype!

 

[carlucio7]

Extreme Evoboost is a status Z-Move. Exclusive. But it still exists.

I actually meant something like using toxic to proc the poison z move.

 

[Steel With It]

I already got Greninja and it has a Hardy nature, i think it has a fixed nature.

Confirming, mine's Hardy as well.

 

[Chloe]

It appears that paralysis mechanics have changed.

My Greninja with 130 Speed outsped a 62 Speed Pikachu the turn after Static paralysed me.

The 1/4 full paralysis chance seems to have stayed.

 

[Arothai]

Found this video review filled with direct feed footage and gameplay

 

[Mad Ram]

Well, we may not have all the stats we wanted (how were we supposed to know Gamefreak would make a decent decision regarding hiding Pokémon) but what do we know at least?

 

[Karxrida]

Something we can still find out if is Jangmo-o is the psuedo. I think the first stages have a specific BST and EXP growth.

It appears that paralysis mechanics have changed.

My Greninja with 130 Speed outsped a 62 Speed Pikachu the turn after Static paralysed me.

The 1/4 full paralysis chance seems to have stayed.

Holy shit.

 

[AJC]

oh hey with water shuriken being special now accelgor has a useful water attack now.

remember it got the move in ORAS.

 

[RandysRage]

Whelp.

https://twitter.com/pokemon_PhD/status/788195362066591744

Haha, looks like Game Freak learned their lesson from the ORAS demo.

 

[Stellar]

I spent ages carefully leveling up a Pikipek in the catching game and it didn't evolve so it seems like either evolution is disabled or it evolves really late (probably the former).

 

[Arothai]

A promo video at the end of the demo might reveal all trial captains...

 

[mattj]

A bit disappointing with the stats. But getting the dex, typings, and movepools will be useful.

 

[viol and bass]

When you catch a pokemon with a full party, you now can choose whether to send it to the PC (or the nature equivalent of the PC) or swap it out with a member of your party. Pretty nice.

 

[Drake Wolf]

So, they learned from their mistakes? *sigh* Well, there goes my curiosity about the new Pokémon.

 

[QuickBH]

It appears that paralysis mechanics have changed.

My Greninja with 130 Speed outsped a 62 Speed Pikachu the turn after Static paralysed me.

The 1/4 full paralysis chance seems to have stayed.

How do you know Pikachu is 62 speed if you were facing it?

 

[Siggu]

A minor question about Ash-Greninja: Is the form kept after switching out?

Also... I don't understand why concealing the stats in the demo. Unless it's based on a very early version... they don't get any benefits from hiding.

When you catch a pokemon with a full party, you now can choose whether to send it to the PC (or the nature equivalent of the PC) or swap it out with a member of your party. Pretty nice.

Nuzlockers rejoice.

 

[Hourai]

I spent ages carefully leveling up a Pikipek in the catching game and it didn't evolve so it seems like either evolution is disabled or it evolves really late (probably the former).

Yeah, I'm going to say it's the former too. It would make no sense for the early game bird to evolve really late.

 

[Chloe]

How do you know Pikachu is 62 speed if you were facing it?

Caught it afterwards, there's a catching challenge you can do after the trial/credits roll.

 

[Fireburn]

Caught it afterwards, there's a catching challenge you can do after the trial/credits roll.

What move did you attack the Pikachu with (since Water Shuriken has priority iirc)?

E: I quoted the wrong post but i'm asking about the supposed para nerf.

 

[Siggu]

We'd need empirical confirmation, but for now I welcome the supposed change on paralysis. It's a stupidly powerful status given how reliable certain moves (Thunder Wave and Glare) are at spreading it.

 

[viol and bass]

Can somebody check if Pikachu's stats have changed at all? I am curious if they're going to change stats for old mons (like they did for gen 6) outside of Alola forms.

 

[Vivmeister10]

Derrick from GameXplain just got outsped by Totem Hakamo-o with paralyzed Ash-Greninja

 

[PKMN Hunter 18]

Nintendo eShop is down for maintenance so I can't download the demo :-(