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NOC Paranoia Mafia Game Over - Mafia Wins

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Thetwinmasters said:
rssp1 can you lay out your logic like this
Because some towns people said josh kill was a frame->x reasoning-> borath is scum
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No no they said it WASNT a frame
did i say they said it was a frame
I meant the opposite DX
I need to check my posts more often

So I 100% know FH did this, but he was suggesting that the Josh kill was NOT a frame and Walrein did it to kill off his most vocal opponent. I think Texas was supporting that opinion for some time, but i'm not sure.
Now, the two likely possibilities behind the Josh kill were:
1) Frame walrein
2) Kill walrein's main opposition

If scum wanted to frame walrein, they'd probably push him at some point due to the josh kill. However, given that everyone who pushed Walrein due to the josh kill was town (I think), that looks a lot worse on Walrein/Borath and makes 2) a lot more likely.
 
So page 27 fh initially brings up that walrein or me probably did the kill then later reverses his opinion about walrein 2 posts later and thinks its a more likely frame and thinks walrein is more towny cause of it but he thought that it could also be a double play.
FH on page 38 on d4 says walrein is scum and partially because of the kill then backtracks after the sub.
Page 28 texas says the haruno flip make me or walrein worse
 
Dentricos on #851 says josh kill makes him think that its rssp1 walrein or me
That is everything I could find about the josh kill making people suspicious of walrein so I don't think anybody alive rn said anything to that effect
 
The more interesting thing imo is that #727 walrein says he would never kill josh in that situation even though the only post mentioning that was fh's extremely quick post after start of day that he quickly flipped on
Then #862 and #867 he asks then answers dentricos opinion about that people who died scumreading walrein makes walrein scummy
Says #876 discussing josh kill is pointless
Then on #951 on d4 after fh's vote on walrein says this
i realize that there's definitely a reason behind the josh kill

that reason, from my pov, is 100% to frame me

from anyone else's pov that reason is EITHER to frame me or performed by me

and it's impossible to guess which it is

so that;s why i said discussing it would be pointless - you'd all just be running in circles
going back to 3:
at this point in the game it would make sense to kill someone who was pushing for your lynch, because it would probably be worth the risk unless someone brought attention to it
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uhh... of COURSE someone's going to bring attention to it. josh was pushing me so hard that i was going to be under immediate fire the instant he died. scum!me doesn't want that extra attention under any circumstances

you seem to think i'm a much ballsier scum player than i actually am
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