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NOC Matrix 12 NOC - Game Over, Mafia Wins
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Once, in my first NOC, Deathnote. As you can probably infer, I did pretty badly (I somehow won tho). Commonly, either I get scumread, or I tunnel someone to the point that everyone scumreads me (I've been trying to dial back on that though). Honestly, I do understand some of the criticisms thrown my way (such as being a bit inconsistent in how my thoughts have been), but I still believe that people ARE ignoring a lot of my posts in favor of having a lynch/getting a mislynch.
Yeti Twin said boD1 no screenshotting, which means I probably wouldn't be allowed to upload and post pics of my rl notes either. The lists are direct transpositions, using the thread search to collect all mentions of specific players and posts by specific players (except in the cases of King and Papercake, where I had to ctrl+F my way through the thread from start to finish, completely with King and just interactions for Papercake). I thought providing raw data on player's interactions and reads might help inform players in making their own reads in a way where I could be impartial. I'm not satisfied with it since 1) I had trouble reading a lot of of the vaguer statements and thus there are way too many "best guesses" mixed in, and 2) I don't know if I've actually helped anyone.
Hitmonleet Josh isn't the only one here thinking about how you dropped a half-formed case and then dove into isoing Asek instead of trying to patch the holes.
I don't like that sloppy attempt, but the more I think over the premise that either a majority of players has got you pegged or a majority of players are entirely wrong about you, the more it feels too coinflippy for my liking.
Hitmonleet Josh isn't the only one here thinking about how you dropped a half-formed case and then dove into isoing Asek instead of trying to patch the holes.
I don't like that sloppy attempt, but the more I think over the premise that either a majority of players has got you pegged or a majority of players are entirely wrong about you, the more it feels too coinflippy for my liking.
true i've gave everyone my opinion yet no one cares to listen because there are "better players" than me and "bigger fish in the water" to catch
I get why you'd think this. The actual reason is that we had started out mutually scum reading each other which creates an inherent climate of hostility and distrust and, now that I no longer scumread him, it's important that we work together which can't happen if we aren't willing to listen to the other.
I think the main issue is that you're mostly saying "things" but you're not really talking to people. I believe pretty strongly that you should not be lynched before hitmonleet but I'm pretty we haven't actually spoken to each other before now
why do you feel as though my scumread on texas is fake lol, I've had it ever since I've entered this game and I've got plenty of reasoning for it; during day 1 he hopped all over the "easy" wagons, many of his posts come across as trying to sound intelligent (iirc I've been citing 856 multiple times) while actually having no content, and his interaction with hitmonleet looks kinda forced/faked, I could be wrong but that's the case for it.
i agree with texas in that I feel that the ironicdouble flip is much less important than the hitmonleet flip when considering changesin reads, i am starting to read texas as scum less but it's just a little and he's not typically as gentle as he is in the previous 2 posts, perhaps an attempt to not come off as harsh?
i think it's totally fair to say that 856 is comparatively contentless but also to be fair, it wasn't really supposed to be? that was a summary post of the argument against king justifying my vote as a rebuttal against his accusation against me so it wasn't really supposed to be introducing new content
Does anyone else not have the sense that blazade was reading jalmont either decisively enough or scummy enough to have intended to grill him d2?
KnightsofCydonia you tend to have your reads notes
What were blazade views on jalmont on d1
Also Asek my reads on you and Texas are swinging back again
I like this effort from you a lot more than anything Texas has done today but I found your absence (explained by the weekend) when the game was just kind of stagnating with leet as the solo wagon, really, inconsistent.
I don't really like Texas today tho what is he doing ??
I do think he could be a leet teammate tho he made that post about if leet was being bussed due to jk when that happened on NIGHT 2 when leet has been bussed since d1 including by Texas.
It felt like an effort to throw us onto the tail of anyone who really got hyphy for his scumbuddy d3.
But I still find all the d1 pushes onto leet Weird if he is mafia
I like this effort from you a lot more than anything Texas has done today but I found your absence (explained by the weekend) when the game was just kind of stagnating with leet as the solo wagon, really, inconsistent.
I don't really like Texas today tho what is he doing ??
I do think he could be a leet teammate tho he made that post about if leet was being bussed due to jk when that happened on NIGHT 2 when leet has been bussed since d1 including by Texas.
It felt like an effort to throw us onto the tail of anyone who really got hyphy for his scumbuddy d3.
But I still find all the d1 pushes onto leet Weird if he is mafia
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Hitmonleet (4): Pancake, Ironic Double, Josh, Texas Cloverleaf
Empoof (2): Fort Colorcastle, KnightsofCydonia
Ironic Double (2): Yeti, Moodycloud
KnightsofCydonia (1): Empoof
Texas Cloverleaf (1): Hitmonleet
Not Voting (3): Hawkie, Blazade, Asek
Hitmonleet (4): Pancake, Ironic Double, Josh, Texas Cloverleaf
Empoof (2): Fort Colorcastle, KnightsofCydonia
Ironic Double (2): Yeti, Moodycloud
KnightsofCydonia (1): Empoof
Texas Cloverleaf (1): Hitmonleet
Not Voting (3): Hawkie, Blazade, Asek
Something about the way ironic double posts strikes me as odd.
He's made some fairly town in how out there they are posts like the "lmao you guys rely on prior game meta" post. I'm not sure I see the rationale for saying something Controversial like that as scum and calling needless attn to yourself.
That said many if not most of the rest of his posts have a lot to dislike.
He even admits he's going to park his vote on the leet wagon and not do anything else today unless leet gets lynched. He won't post a new read or other target until leet is dead.
He has a lot of sort of "I'm disinterested I don't know what's going on how can I defend myself!!" Posts as well. On mobile but I think he made one a page or two ago that Josh called out?
I want to say ironic double could be masquerading as Yet Another Noob Town by this. Hoping that people shrug him off despite his refusal to defend himself he wants us to interpret as inability. It's a little dangerous in that we have been wagoning noob towns heavily but also a valid strategy in that eventually we will decide it's futile and stop lynching them.
If leet is town I think that greatly increases the odds id is mafia and wanted the mislynch so badly to make it look like every noob poster is actually town. At the very least attention gets pulled off him.
JMO
He's made some fairly town in how out there they are posts like the "lmao you guys rely on prior game meta" post. I'm not sure I see the rationale for saying something Controversial like that as scum and calling needless attn to yourself.
That said many if not most of the rest of his posts have a lot to dislike.
He even admits he's going to park his vote on the leet wagon and not do anything else today unless leet gets lynched. He won't post a new read or other target until leet is dead.
He has a lot of sort of "I'm disinterested I don't know what's going on how can I defend myself!!" Posts as well. On mobile but I think he made one a page or two ago that Josh called out?
I want to say ironic double could be masquerading as Yet Another Noob Town by this. Hoping that people shrug him off despite his refusal to defend himself he wants us to interpret as inability. It's a little dangerous in that we have been wagoning noob towns heavily but also a valid strategy in that eventually we will decide it's futile and stop lynching them.
If leet is town I think that greatly increases the odds id is mafia and wanted the mislynch so badly to make it look like every noob poster is actually town. At the very least attention gets pulled off him.
JMO
Last few pages were hard to navigate
I think there's a fair chance that Leet is scum but his flip as either alignment doesn't bring that much info when he's been the "lynch to be resolved" anyway and both town wanting him dead and scum bussing can't be sorted out by his flip as far as I can see. I'm mostly worried of him flipping town and me not getting anything to sort out which of Ironicdouble/Pancake was deflecting to a scapegoat here. Giving Blazade another day before he has time to respond seem fair but I don't like how the suspicion has been switching back onto Ironicdouble/Hitmonleet and maybe Texas today when Blazade/Pancake were brought up as possible lynches.
I think there's a fair chance that Leet is scum but his flip as either alignment doesn't bring that much info when he's been the "lynch to be resolved" anyway and both town wanting him dead and scum bussing can't be sorted out by his flip as far as I can see. I'm mostly worried of him flipping town and me not getting anything to sort out which of Ironicdouble/Pancake was deflecting to a scapegoat here. Giving Blazade another day before he has time to respond seem fair but I don't like how the suspicion has been switching back onto Ironicdouble/Hitmonleet and maybe Texas today when Blazade/Pancake were brought up as possible lynches.
This is just blatantly wrong, his flip gives strong context to reads on at least five other people itg
Also fuck your info, lynch the scum
since i have to spell it out i think i've picked up on who the jk is
Can you tell me on who and how
off the top of my head, ironicdouble, me, asek, josh, blazade
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