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NOC The Mafia Invitational Redux Game Thread - GAME OVER

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I'm feeling a lot better now, so any questions re: what I've done are answerable now.

Related: My vote towards the end yesterday was a gut decision. I considered past NOC games and realized I was almost always wrong until I started following someone who got mafia lynched, so I decided to chance it and ditch my own reads.
 
Hiya just got off work and i have read only a few random posts this game. Not sure if i really deserve to be in any kind of invitational but regardless i got some catching up to do. Ping me if needed.
 
I guess that Yeti's death was inevitable, but them being a Mason was a bit unexpected to me. Not entirely odd tho.
LightWolf said:
The argument wasn't it could have been a freudian slip therefore you are scum, the argument was that what he was reading you as town for because it can only come out of town, was a false premise. I did not, nor did I intend to prove you are scum with this, I was merely interested in opening Former Hope up to the possibility of actual considering you, instead of reading you as town based on that statement.

Also as for quoting the whole thing, really you go there to discredit me? "I've honestly got kind of burnt out now that literally every one of my town reads died in quick succession despite my objections. Gonna be a bit out of things today, sorry." The third part is entirely irrelevant, you excusing yourself from the thread has no relation except cause and effect to the part you personally italicized. And the first part also has no bearing on the context I was bringing it up in, which was FH reading you positively for you exclaiming literally all your town reads died despite your objections.

Stop trying to weasel out of addressing my qualms with you and then I will maybe stop being increasingly hostile in getting you to reply to them. You have been ascertaining my scumminess for a while, yet instead of diving into the treasure pile that should be my accusations if coming from a scum mindset aimed at a mislynch, you made on overreaction omgus at me and have stopped meaningfully addressing me ever since, and that ever since has been two damn days. Get on it or get dying.

As I said FH it's not shading, you are positively reading Hitmon for something I consider NAI, because it can easily come from scum perspective as well as town. If I want to argue about my bigger points against Hitmon with anyone(that no one beyond AG acknowledged) then I need to get unrelated biases out of the way first top OPEN YOUR MIND to the possiblity, speaking of which.

All the counter arguments. You are town reading someone for a blatantly NAI thing, while shading me for the blatantly NAI thing of being afk. IF you want to reason moody is clear, disprove how it could have come from scum, because as long as it can come from scum it's not a valid argument.
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Yet you didn't actually state them when I asked you to do so. I'm hoping to get a good read on Moody, Former, and Knights today, so if you can just give me all of your issues and questions at once so we can skip the pointless back-and-forth banter of you being obviously hostile and me getting annoyed and apparently not pleasing you, I'd find it much appreciated.
 
Hitmonleet said:
I guess that Yeti's death was inevitable, but them being a Mason was a bit unexpected to me. Not entirely odd tho.

Yet you didn't actually state them when I asked you to do so. I'm hoping to get a good read on Moody, Former, and Knights today, so if you can just give me all of your issues and questions at once so we can skip the pointless back-and-forth banter of you being obviously hostile and me getting annoyed and apparently not pleasing you, I'd find it much appreciated.
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I'm hoping I don't catch you johning with Merged Worlds again, Juan-Marcos.
 
Reads:

Town: Former, Light, and a guy who's gonna jinx himself if he says the slump is over
85% null, 15% Town: Epik nee DLE

And scum is in Aura, Moody, and Leet. I'm confident enough in my Aura read and his lack of stance on Asek to let my vote ride to deadline, barring shocking revelations/scumslips.
 
If there is a third Mason they should claim today. The Asek lynch gives 1 misslynch before LYLO yet again, which means unlike at LYLO scum can't afford to counterclaim the mason, nor can a scum risk claiming mason falsely yet in hopes none exist. I'd love to hear arguments as to why Mason shouldn't claim, but in light of Yeti dying as one, I very much WANT to see who the mythical 3rd one is.

Dear Hitmon, how's about you ISO the person who literally has posts only on day 3, to find within his first 10ish posts of day 3 the big wall post, the reply to your reply to his big wall post and the reply to your overreaction to his reply to your reply to his big wallpost?
 
KnightsofCydonia said:
Reads:

Town: Former, Light, and a guy who's gonna jinx himself if he says the slump is over
85% null, 15% Town: Epik nee DLE

And scum is in Aura, Moody, and Leet. I'm confident enough in my Aura read and his lack of stance on Asek to let my vote ride to deadline, barring shocking revelations/scumslips.
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Mind explaining this sudden jump?
KnightsofCydonia said:
I can see a world in which Tex offers Hitmon up as Mason cover. It's a world I'd have to be coaxed into approving of because of the numbers game and the icky thought of Town technically bussing, but I can see it happening.
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You make this really weak, non-committal statement, and then, with no coaxing whatsoever, you jump to considering me absolute scum.

That's shady, man.
KnightsofCydonia said:
Solve above, and you can take the recap as reads. Not going to get it all finished today. I'm considering taking dramamine and sleeping through deaqdline.
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Especially considering your reads and solve.
 
LightWolf said:
If there is a third Mason they should claim today. The Asek lynch gives 1 misslynch before LYLO yet again, which means unlike at LYLO scum can't afford to counterclaim the mason, nor can a scum risk claiming mason falsely yet in hopes none exist. I'd love to hear arguments as to why Mason shouldn't claim, but in light of Yeti dying as one, I very much WANT to see who the mythical 3rd one is.

Dear Hitmon, how's about you ISO the person who literally has posts only on day 3, to find within his first 10ish posts of day 3 the big wall post, the reply to your reply to his big wall post and the reply to your overreaction to his reply to your reply to his big wallpost?
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Once again, how about we not play this game where I ask for a simple list of questions and your response is "screw you no have this vague and unclear insult"?
 
Yeti said:
Asek
Da Letter El
Aura Guardian
Former Hope
KnightsofCydonia
LightWolf
MoodyCloud
Yeti
Hitmonleet

3/9

ml = 3/7
ml = 3/5
3/5 = mylo since 3/4 is lylo and 3/3 off a ml is end

so we have 2 mislynches available

if the poe of asek/dle/lw/ag does contain all 3 scum then we just win and have at max 1 ml, if the poe has only 2 scum then depending on order we hit lylo with proooobably enough to go on to solve who it is of knights/leet at that point? if the poe only has 1-0 scum then we are probably doomed barring some really clutch lategame reading from whoever survives to lylo
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Last thing I can find that covers everyone by Yeti, for reference.
 
Hitmonleet said:
Once again, how about we not play this game where I ask for a simple list of questions and your response is "screw you no have this vague and unclear insult"?
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I gave you a list, your responded to it, I reponded to that to which you responded with an overreaction and a vote and have YET TO ACKNOWLEDGE my response to that, or even actually acknowledge my first response to you since your overreaction boiled down to I'm scum for idling, it's not my playstyle and I am tunneling you. I have then proceeded to repeatedly call you out in order for you to respond to that and when you finally acknowledge my repeated calls, you ask me to repeat myself from then. So no you are the one who has been putting of replying to me, I could go back and quote it, but I'm gonna be petty enough to say if you can't do even that after literally trying to lynch me last day, then your push is clearly malicious in intent.

Or a trade if you can quote your reasons why you suspected and wanted to lynch me yesterday, I will quote mine. Doth thateth soundeth faireth toth you-eth? I just like ye olde english and to butcher it, ignore me.
 
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