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NOC The Mafia Invitational Redux Game Thread - GAME OVER

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MoodyCloud said:
Lol lightwolf is not part of a "unified group of townies" and I don't recall following you onto AG
I do recall you softly supporting the coutnerwagon to AG though
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So you admit that confirmed town supported a lynch against Hitmonleet in spite of suspecting AG based on their town mindset? Becuase if I'm scum Knights is clean and if Knights is scum I am clean. You may want to look for reasons to suspect people that don't fall apart when only one scum exists and people who did suspicious shit together are all scum for similar pushes :P

Get to ISOing Asek and AG and in detail show us what you think their interactions mean in regards to the alignment of those currently still alive. They may have been clever in talking about their buddies, but that doesn't stop them from having had interactions with currently alive people that they'd never have with the final member. That is what I will be looking into myself, and if you are gonna be in a shouting match about me being scum I'd like if you were experienced on the subject as well.
 
LightWolf said:
So you admit that confirmed town supported a lynch against Hitmonleet in spite of suspecting AG based on their town mindset? Becuase if I'm scum Knights is clean and if Knights is scum I am clean. You may want to look for reasons to suspect people that don't fall apart when only one scum exists and people who did suspicious shit together are all scum for similar pushes :P

Get to ISOing Asek and AG and in detail show us what you think their interactions mean in regards to the alignment of those currently still alive. They may have been clever in talking about their buddies, but that doesn't stop them from having had interactions with currently alive people that they'd never have with the final member. That is what I will be looking into myself, and if you are gonna be in a shouting match about me being scum I'd like if you were experienced on the subject as well.
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1) Knights buying your bs as town is entirely possible
2)You're the one who has work to do and gamesolving to show rn, I've been asking you for a lynch order to follow and you still haven't delivered but your attempt at deflection is noted
 
LightWolf said:
Yeah I am pretty proud of it, even if it didn't work out and they killed Yeti instead. Trying to resolve my biggest suspect by tricking the mafia that no one including me would ever lynch him while he is likely mason. If it had worked day 4 would have been laughably easy.
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It's a shame they went for one of the two obvious night kills instead and left you to attempt to mislynch him yourself
 
LightWolf said:
Why in gods name are we using poes. Maybe if we had a better fucking idea about the game, but this literally a game where the first day was spent by oen town tunneling the other and little in discussion deviating from the premise of Proph lynch followed by a day 2 that's had less posts than this day a few hours from now.

No one should be above scrutiny at this point yet and people should be scumhunting, not deciding a list to vote from and then if we reach MYLO or LYLO scramble to scumhunt.

Why is this the primary discussion topic a day into a 3 day deadline especially after day 2 ended that quickly? Push, hunt, question, iso. Anything but this shit. The fact Hitmon decides to comment on the poe instead of acknowledging my qualms with him and people are totatly okay with that is baffling.
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argues against the poe of asek/dle/lw/ag
 
LightWolf said:
You have to convince us that you are also extempt from that list. Friendly reminder to at this point people need to look for reasons why they themselves also can't be scum, if we going by narrowing down to 2.
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1st of all, you are suggesting I put myself on my own POE list so lol. 2nd, if anyone needs to do this. It's you. With the exception of epik who hasn't really posted that much, 2 players here think you are the scummiest slot in the game.
KnightsofCydonia said:
Anyone disagree with all wagons idling until at least Thursday?
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yes and no. But I like moody's vote

Also there was a post moody made somewhere of a post I made about KOC. Can't find that to quote you but to answer

Oh found it
MoodyCloud said:
I think you have him as lock town now ? where do you stand on about this
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The post you quoted was me responding to people who were sr him (I think it was asek actually? Was it just asek? idr) for fluff and while yeah, he has fluff in his posts (oh it was yeti too who was calling him out on it) I didn't see any of it as scum indicative. Like I even say in the post the fluff didn't drop my townread, now lock town on him.
 
KnightsofCydonia said:
Aura

1353- brief iso on pre-wall Light and an iso on Metal. This is the iso I said was half-finished and on second look it seems like he made it without checking the NK. Which kinda wrecks half his basis for voting Metal in the first place since he was partially hinging on Metal predicting Hawkie and Proph's alignments. Imagine I just posted a gif of Lucille Ball grimacing, because that's how I feel here.

1376- Brings up OMGUS in reference to his iso on metal. Confusing until I remind myself that OMGUS originally had a non-retaliatory usage.

1379- This is the post my general impression of Aura was based in before the D2 hammer. Second sentence is a very Townie pov.

1399- Acknowledges Hawkie's death.

1426- iso on Texas. Says Tex's 97 read like a VT softclaim. Applies awareness of Hawkie's death to the read, along with a general statement on Hawkie's flip. That general statement about people looking better or potentially worse is the closest we get to him correcting the "predicting Hawkie" part of his read on Metal. Both reads Tex as Town and wants to use Texas's own suggested tactics later in the game. I'm trying to parse the fact that he's excusing fluffy Texas posts but called fluffy Metal posts "junk". Is it an issue of Metal looking worse by comparison?

1471/1473- Aura's last posts of D2. Asks about majority and then rephrases it in a way that looks worse in tone.

D3

1500- Scumleans Former, pointing out actions as inconsistent and citing Former's reason for voting Metal as hypocritical behavior. Then cites Metal's mislynch and needing to read new content as reasons not to vote him. I like that he's scrutinizing a generally TR'd slot (shows individual thought process), but I'm also trying to parse some wifom that comes from part of his read on Former involving Metal's wagon. I think I'm hung up on 1353 in that regard.

1506/1520/1525- Refutes Light's read on Hitmon, then proceeds to potentially out the second mason. Scum being able to figure it out themselves does not excuse actions that make it easier to find Masons.

1610- readslist. How is Former "down to" a scumlean when your iso already said he was a scum lean?

1618- says why Metal hammer reads scummier than metal L-1. I disagree that L-1 was not an issue becuase L-1 was reached in less than 24 hours and that is an issue.

Aura is scum and I'm going to bed.
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reminder that this post came after this one
MoodyCloud said:
this is not a good look for ag there is no point in openly speculating who the other mason is from a town perspective
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Oh, forgot about a good point about Light's alignment that I made earlier. The tag team point about Asek and Light making simultaneous hard pushes on Hitmon and how it didn't seem likely to be w/w. I'd like to bring that up for discussion while I'm doing rereads.
 
Because two scum working together on a push means neither of them would be able to point back and say "No, I'm Town, he must be the scum" without actually getting scum lynched. Cribbing off a Townie means room to get a mislynch.
 
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