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NOC The Mafia Invitational Redux Game Thread - GAME OVER

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If your argument is that you can't trust my reasons for pushing leet over AG, then why did you keep asking for them.
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There is no such reason from you to even consider trusting
All you've done is bring up justifications for your Leet push instead of explaining why he was a better push than AG or what you thought the link between these slots was
 
LightWolf said:
What would you as scum do when two masons are dead and you are being lynched and there is a possiblity that a third mason may or may not exist? The answer is simple, you'd claim to be the last mason to avoid being lynched, worst case you force the real mason should they even exist to claim as well. If Hitmon was scum, everything lined up prefectly for him to make a believable mason claim, which in itself was proven when he even took the chance and did it as a simple villager.

So the likelyhood of Hitmon being lynched as scum that day were near zero, but if he was scum I had to force him to claim that day before we hit LYLO where his claim could no longer be verified overnight.
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Hitmonleet was under pressure but was not the most likely lynch to happen at the time

As for the last part of your post well no, you just had to say "if nobody claims today do NOT trust any future mason claim" and that was it
 
The sad part is that rambling thought doesn't actually indicate Light's alignment.

Though I am looking at something rn that does kinda read as Burden of Proof.
LightWolf said:
If I am scum then what I am saying is a lie because you are town who I am twisting the actions of, therefore all the actions I have a problem with should be explainable from a village perspective, or mistakes made by a villager that should be admitted as such, if that can't be done that the only truth that remains is that they are the actions of a scum.
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MoodyCloud said:
There is no such reason from you to even consider trusting
All you've done is bring up justifications for your Leet push instead of explaining why he was a better push than AG or what you thought the link between these slots was
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I have listed me reasons for pushing hitmon plenty of times during the times I pushed him. As for relations to AG, I pointed AG's defense of Hitmon to my wall post, which always smelled foul like scum buddy trying hard to get everyone thinking hitmon has to be clean. But at the same time everyone and their mother read Hitmon town except me and Asek, so I frankly just wanted to review things after seeing hitmon flip be it from the lynch or a night kill. I don't know what you want to hear from me when I made the first one p clear while I pushed Hitmon and the second I already said I didn't look for links between the slots seriously.

MoodyCloud said:
stick to wifom more like
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Every Single Reason you put why I am scum has been a WIFOM on how what I did could have been done by scum and you purely denying any ways a town may do it. Stop being a hypocrite.
MoodyCloud said:
Hitmonleet was under pressure but was not the most likely lynch to happen at the time

As for the last part of your post well no, you just had to say "if nobody claims today do NOT trust any future mason claim" and that was it
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I did say that, I'm not gonna trust people to go with that when Hitmon had strong public masonstanding, people would have bought it at LYLO, and I ALREADY PROVED THEY WOULD, because fucking Former literally made the argument I or DLE would be the only ones to kill Hitmon, therefore Former if I am scum as town just exclaimed he'd let a living mason hitmon not dying last night get away with it.

Also you yourself have stated on multiple occasions that YOU saved Hitmon even after the mason claim by letting AG hammer. You can't claim on one hand he was safe on the other how we nearly murdered him.
KnightsofCydonia said:
The sad part is that rambling thought doesn't actually indicate Light's alignment.

Though I am looking at something rn that does kinda read as Burden of Proof.
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Dunno what you are getting at, but I;m sure everyone was there where over 2 days Hitmon had consistently refused to address my problems with him? I was giving him an obvious ultimatum in where either he tries to discuss and disprove my points on him or he essentially admits they are real.
Former Hope said:
Or just thoughts about who should be lynched. Ie you and lw are my main pool so do things that let me think you are town
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It's not your decision who is the main pool, you haven't even engaged why you think Moody is outside said pool today at all. Please tell me why Moody is outside of the pool if you aren't shouting he is clean like Knights?
 
Also MoodyCloud what is your opinion on Former pushing the idea of if Asek scum Hitmon scum day 3 which translated into him jumping on Hitmon day 4 while reading me positively only to start this day completely 180ing to suspecting me despite only really bring me as scum up previously when directly talking of if DLE scum then LW scum.
 
KnightsofCydonia said:
This is what Burden of Proof is, though.
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Okay then why ain't you calling Moody out for that as well. Or are you saying he hasn't spent all day making me justify every single move I made against Hitmon?

Also, again context, Hitmon was not engaging me on my actual points while scumreading me for pushing him. So I put things in simple terms for him, if I am scum and he is town, then my arguments shouldn't hold up to scrutiny, ergo he should try to do so. He was not engaging me so what do I do, keep screaming out reasons he keeps ignoring and despite scumreading me never engaging me or blackmail him into actually engaging my points. My answer is making him engage me, and would always be. You can't say all I did was tell him to prove he isn't scum, I made points why I think he is scum and asked him to reply to those accusations, not exclaim he is scum, prove he isn't.
 
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