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NOC Greek Mythology Mafia [GAME OVER: SCUM WIN]
- Thread starter Scarlet Firefly
- Start date
"i think the thing that pinged me the most on this is where he said that he was going to keep his vote on me for pressure until i answered leet's questions even though I think that it is clear that if there was even a cursory attempt to understand the conversation between me and leet that there was nothing left to say. it is fine to not read the thread but i think when people don't read the thread and then pretend to have done so and say that they are "keeping an eye on developments" it is posturing "
thanks, now explain to me what information the paragraph you just quoted contains that isn’t not included in the paragraph I just quoted
I'm gonna join Empoof here. Wait until this argument ends before drawing conclusions.
I like this one more than you vs hitmonleet
when reading what you just quoted i did not see where you answered his questions which is why i posted this
and got no answer
Alright, answering now. Don't have much time rn tho, so will be brief.
- I feel like you're pretty towny rn, tbh. You've been pretty aggressive, which tbh tends to be towny from my experience. You've also been playing well and creating discussion, and so I feel good about you being town rn.
- I feel good about Empoof, and I feel good about Texas, but less so on Texas. They've just been posting thoughts that I get and can understand from a town PoV.
- Frankly, atm Caffeine, for reasons stated earlier.
Oh sorry I hadn't read to see this whole debate going on
Come back to that once this is done
Come back to that once this is done
I love how Hitmonleet gets ever so slightly more spiteful when he's talking about me. These kind of emotions are just strengthening my read.
Let me repeat my last post for clarity because I think if a bystander understands this point then I don’t have to say anything else about viper.
You misread me vs leet at first and did not realize it. After you misread me vs leet this is what I said:
This is impossible. This is impossible, because there is no information that could have lead to this realization in post 437 that was not included in post 254. So you could not have realized after reading post 437 that you made a mistake, because you did not realize after reading post 254 that you made a mistake.
I want to be clear. I am not jumping on this so hard because I think it is important whether or not viper was reading the thread. Misreading thread is not scummy. What is INCREDIBLY scummy is forgetting your thought process during the game, because scum have to manufacture their thought process whereas town does not. When Viper says that he realized he made a mistake after reading 437, HE IS LYING, because post 437 and post 254 contain exactly the same amount of information pertaining to me vs leet.
This means that Viper is scum.
You misread me vs leet at first and did not realize it. After you misread me vs leet this is what I said:
You replied,
And got no answer. You say that at this time you still did not realize that you misread me vs leet. However, you then read the following paragraph I said,
and claimed to realize that you now realize that you have made a mistake, namely that the conversation between leet and I had finished at the time that you made your post keeping your vote on me.
This is impossible. This is impossible, because there is no information that could have lead to this realization in post 437 that was not included in post 254. So you could not have realized after reading post 437 that you made a mistake, because you did not realize after reading post 254 that you made a mistake.
I want to be clear. I am not jumping on this so hard because I think it is important whether or not viper was reading the thread. Misreading thread is not scummy. What is INCREDIBLY scummy is forgetting your thought process during the game, because scum have to manufacture their thought process whereas town does not. When Viper says that he realized he made a mistake after reading 437, HE IS LYING, because post 437 and post 254 contain exactly the same amount of information pertaining to me vs leet.
This means that Viper is scum.
Gaaah. Sthap. I was not saying I think hal was noob scum. I was saying that I felt like the tone in that post was very akin to noob scum tone.
Also there's a difference between scum reading someone for idling and then scumreading someone when they've done nothing but joke posts.... less than 24 hours into the game.
i really think you are over estimating my playing skill in that last paragraph.
i answered you earlier saying "when reading what you just quoted i did not see where you answered his questions " and that was the difference.
the first time, due to my fault, not any1 elses, i did not realize it
when it was restated i then realized it
yeah sorry homie i'm siding with "he misread the first time and then read correctly the second time" when it comes to this
like he can be scummy for posturing and trying to be put in a good position vs scumhunting, sure that's fine. Not really seeing what you're trying to push in this post very well.
Which I know is bad since you'll just restate the post or whatever but I just disagree
he couldn't have misread the first time because he responded to 254 lmao
anyways, him lying about his read on me is one thing, him posturing is a second, and him being tonally nervous is a third
viper said that he sounds nervous because he's worried about getting mislynched i think is bullshit since the last noc game he played was shipwreck and admittedly though i haven't read that game it looks like he won as scum
i'm going to let this thread breathe
anyways, him lying about his read on me is one thing, him posturing is a second, and him being tonally nervous is a third
viper said that he sounds nervous because he's worried about getting mislynched i think is bullshit since the last noc game he played was shipwreck and admittedly though i haven't read that game it looks like he won as scum
i'm going to let this thread breathe
Your language in these posts shows a great amount of irritation towards me. I see it as quite antagonistic in tone actually. A common occurrence is
your frequent asking of whether I have an "actual thought" and it seems to me that you don't think of me as scum but more that you think I'm an idiot. There are bits in bold which to me seem either arrogant or undermining since you appear to be treating me as if I've never played this before. Regardless of what role you think I have, you're frustrated and fed up with me. You don't really have this tone with anybody else so I think these emotions may have risen from discomfort at my initial read. I do think that if you were town, you'd be a bit calmer about what was initially a not very confident read (not confident enough for a vote at the very least) and a bit more complacent after I voted for you providing my reasons.
I would go on further and add that maybe your "do you actually have any thoughts on anyone else" was an attempt to get me off you but I think that was more of a jab at me than anything.
Yeah, I was progressively getting more and more irritated by the fact that I wasn't getting a detailed statement from you on your thoughts other than the one post that I had responded to (and that you had ignored). The forth quote was to express that I was tired of trying to do that, and the eighth was an apology for being rude. The first was a joke based on Empoof's comment, and unrelated to your playing. The sixth was me reaching peak annoyance and the seventh was an honest, polite offer. The ninth was me expressing joy that my previous requests were answered, the tenth was me pointing out how you were pretty much deathtunneling me, and the last has no meaning at all in terms of tone. I don't think that you're an idiot, I just think that, previously, you hadn't been posting that much of original ideas and content. I'm sorry for making you think I thought you were stupid.
Tbh when this kind of scenario happens I tend to just have no chill. See: Invitational Mafia, where this kind of thing lasted nearly the whole game.
I am sorry about making you feel like I thought that way though, man.
No harm done. It's just a game after all. In a game where people could say stuff in order to meet a goal (of any kind), there's no reason to take anything personally.
I'm going to read through apricity vs viper and see if I can get anything from that.
I WILL HAVE YOUR SOUL; I HAD LIKE TWO PARAGRAPHS TYPED UP REGARDING THIS
gg
Now with that post scrapped here is the rundown of everything else regarding viper vs apricity (fun read NGL)
Anywho viper hard pushing apricity from an apparent townread stance (See viper's impromptu readlist) i have mixed feelings on Im more in line with Empoof's line of thinking regarding the misread. Speaking of viper's misreading he should really get that checked out. However what I cant get past is:
Anywho would like to read apricity town; the callout makes sense and his reasoning for not believing viper's misread also makes sense. The agression reads tonally town. But i have a terribly inherent bias towards townreading players with an agressive streak. Town Lite :tm:
Also less inclined to trust my initial soulread on caffieine; seems extremely overdramatic for no reason other than getting his points across namely his SR on leet. As though he feels the need to yell to the thread "HEY IM DOING THIS AND YOU SHOULD LOOK AT ME DO IT". But the ending of their little catfight makes me hesitant that that was the actual intent behind the dramatization. Moving this down to null.
Hopefully the formatting of this post came out ok; if not i'll do reiterate this.
Anywho viper hard pushing apricity from an apparent townread stance (See viper's impromptu readlist) i have mixed feelings on Im more in line with Empoof's line of thinking regarding the misread. Speaking of viper's misreading he should really get that checked out. However what I cant get past is:
This was in response to:
Blatant misconstrewing of the arguement being made. There is nothing here regarding playskill in the slightest; its a fact of life scum need to create a thought process. How else would scum create reads. He pretty blatantly dodged the arguement at hand. And I actually want an answer for this; and you are going to tell me you misread again. And im not gonna buy it. So you better come up with something a bit better. ##Unvote asek (i think its asek; if not asek unvote whomever) ##Vote: ItzViper
Anywho would like to read apricity town; the callout makes sense and his reasoning for not believing viper's misread also makes sense. The agression reads tonally town. But i have a terribly inherent bias towards townreading players with an agressive streak. Town Lite :tm:
Also less inclined to trust my initial soulread on caffieine; seems extremely overdramatic for no reason other than getting his points across namely his SR on leet. As though he feels the need to yell to the thread "HEY IM DOING THIS AND YOU SHOULD LOOK AT ME DO IT". But the ending of their little catfight makes me hesitant that that was the actual intent behind the dramatization. Moving this down to null.
Hopefully the formatting of this post came out ok; if not i'll do reiterate this.
Eh i'll get to it tonight.
If Viper comes in and responds to my post and says that is the third thing within 36 hours he has misread do you believe that to be alignment indicitive?