Dunno if any of you knew this, but Levitate's effect seems to be ignored when the levitater uses Ingrain.
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DP Research Thread #3 ("Newer")
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Already known that ingrain now negates flyings immunity to ground type attacks and nulls the effects of levitate has well has making fliers and levitators be hit by spikes/poison spikes.
PS souldn't the confimed changes and new effects be be listed on the first page like the old research topics had done so?
PS souldn't the confimed changes and new effects be be listed on the first page like the old research topics had done so?
So, you want these 3 threads to be put into one post?
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All that stuff is right there, as I said in the first post.
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All that stuff is right there, as I said in the first post.
The reason Speed isn't effected is because the stats are not removed, only ignored for purposes of interacting with the Unaware Pokemon. In 2v2, it's harder to tell who's interacting with what (especially with switching, Follow Me, etc. involved).
I'll see if I can find the test that confirmed that this is how it works, but I'm about 99.6% positive.
I'll see if I can find the test that confirmed that this is how it works, but I'm about 99.6% positive.
I was also confident that it worked like that- Similar to Pressure, where the effect is like a filter that affects everything that targets the Pokémon with Unaware.
I can assume the following:
An Unaware Pokémon attacking another Unaware Pokémon will behave like any other Pokémon attacking an Unaware Pokémon.
Being attacked with a multi-target move, the foe's stat changes will only be negated when calculating damage against the Unaware Pokémon, and not against the Unaware's partner or its' own partner.
I would actually bet that Mud Sport and Water Sport are NOT passable. I haven't tested it, though.
EDIT:
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?p=547237&highlight=mud+sport+water#post547237
Thought so.
EDIT:
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?p=547237&highlight=mud+sport+water#post547237
Thought so.
This was put in the Resource Thread- which was obviously the wrong place, but that's not the point.
Is this possible? It would be absurd if it was.
How does Stealth Rock determine damage? Is it like, HP/2 for 4x effective, HP/4 for 2x effective, etc., or is it something like...
HP / 8 * Type1 * Type2?
(with rounding after each step)
For instance, a 300 HP Charizard would take 150 damage if it's just HP/2, but the second formula would give 148 damage dealt.
HP / 8 * Type1 * Type2?
(with rounding after each step)
For instance, a 300 HP Charizard would take 150 damage if it's just HP/2, but the second formula would give 148 damage dealt.
And you've tested this? No? Then leave us be.
I might get a nice number of HP on a Charizard to check this out using Pokésav, if I still have it sitting around here... But my time is very limited these days, so if someone else feels like testing before I can, go right ahead.
I can prove that floor(floor(x/8)/2) = floor(x/16) for every positive integer x, and that floor(floor(floor(x/8)/2)/2) = floor(x/32) for every positive integer x.
Suppose x = 16k + r, where k and r are positive integers. floor(x/8) = 2k, and hence, floor(floor(x/8)/2) = floor(2k/2) = k. floor(x/16) = k as well, providing the proof for the first one.
The proof for the second one is similar.
Suppose x = 32k + r, where k and r are positive integers. floor(x/8) = 4k, and hence, floor(floor(x/8)/2) = floor(4k/2) = 2k, and floor(floor(floor(x/8)/2)/2) = floor(2k/2) = k. floor(x/32) = k as well, proving the second one.
This means that, however the game implements it, the final answer is indistinguishable. Which means that we're covered for Stealth Rock resistances.
Now, for x2 and x4 weaknesses, this needs testing, as Obi said, since the answers are different.
Suppose x = 16k + r, where k and r are positive integers. floor(x/8) = 2k, and hence, floor(floor(x/8)/2) = floor(2k/2) = k. floor(x/16) = k as well, providing the proof for the first one.
The proof for the second one is similar.
Suppose x = 32k + r, where k and r are positive integers. floor(x/8) = 4k, and hence, floor(floor(x/8)/2) = floor(4k/2) = 2k, and floor(floor(floor(x/8)/2)/2) = floor(2k/2) = k. floor(x/32) = k as well, proving the second one.
This means that, however the game implements it, the final answer is indistinguishable. Which means that we're covered for Stealth Rock resistances.
Now, for x2 and x4 weaknesses, this needs testing, as Obi said, since the answers are different.
That proof had me puzzling for quite a few minutes. I knew the result was right, but I kept "proving" it wrong, so to speak. Then I realized the problem:
For
x = 16k + r
k is a non-negative integer, and r is an integer between 0 and 15, inclusive.
floor(x/8) = 2k if, and only if r < 8
For r ≥ 8, floor(x/8) = 2k + 1
The result still works because you then divide again by 2, leaving k + 1/2, which, when floored, is just k.
For
x = 16k + r
k is a non-negative integer, and r is an integer between 0 and 15, inclusive.
floor(x/8) = 2k if, and only if r < 8
For r ≥ 8, floor(x/8) = 2k + 1
The result still works because you then divide again by 2, leaving k + 1/2, which, when floored, is just k.
Can False Swipe break a Substitute of a Pokemon at 1 HP?
Yes.
Yes.
Stall Pokemon that activate a Quick Claw go before ordinary Pokemon. I don't know if Stall comes into play at all when two Quick Claw Pokemon activate at the same time.
This is only possible on shoddy. Shoddy is coded to do the 6.25% paralasis, then check for a status, then do the 6.25% burn, then check for status, then freeze, etc. So, if you get statused, then the status is removed, when it checks before applying burn, it would find no status and cause you to become burned.
Not possible ingame, because ingame, the berry waits until the move is completely complete before activating.
Another fun tidbit is, the second and third statuses of triattack are slightly less probable than the first.
Have you tested this in-game? It's possible for the actual way to be a 20% chance to status, then it generates a random number between 1 and 3 (or whatever) to choose your status if that check passes.