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NOC New World NOC - GAME OVER

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Moody
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Inferno

??? tier: why don/hannah - I don't really care about either of these two users. No posting = no reads. I put Whydon at slightly lower odds for being mafia for his occasional dgaf posts.

Cap - I had cap as town because he posted after the deadline but now I'm not so sure. I think Moody might be onto something; for me he's readable as both trying too hard and trying earnestly. won't say anything more about him for now since investigating him I don't think is all the worthwhile at this point...

Idiot
Former - lmao. normally the insanity = auto mafia, but there's legitimate points both ways. Bad - Who the fuck did he target lmao still hasn't claimed that. Changing the vote 1 hr before deadline for what I think was pretty bad reasoning. Continually bringing up the night kill for his argument even though w/e case there is not that strong. Really weird takes like I'm mafia because ??? and that everyone but him is playing bad which is just so obvious self-delusion that he cant' be serious. Also hannah has made 0 posts but is "obvious" mafia apparently. OMEGALUL like look at 294 where he's like just look at my reads I got lily right completely ignoring the fact that he just mislynched a dude LMAO

The good - well there's the claim. and I don't think he would self vote as town? unless he's completely brain dead which does get more believable like i said the more he posts but....I'd like to think he's still got some brain cells left...jeez...i guess ill need to revisit this

No clue what laurel's doing. Mafia? Maybe. Heal I guess is posting which is good but I can't shake off that weird feeling. Feels like there's some bussing going on. Either that or the mafia is just really out of touch with the game and its like laurel/whydon/hannah or something. that seems doubtful though.

Now I'm thinking in circles so should just leave this and go. Yeah Idk. I was going to conclude we should vote m2h here but I'm not sure. Maybe better to have him claim and then decide then. Or just vote cap. I dunno.
 
There wasn't anyone in the game I particularly wanted to protect, so my priority was to block a kill. To do that I stepped back and considered out of everyone, who was the most likely to be killed. Of the PL, M2H and I are the best known for game solving, and at the time I was the only one really scumreading M2H, so I figured it was somewhat likely to be targeted if he was town.

The sad part is I thought about targeting lily, but I also figured no scum in their right mind would target someone with that low post count so :blobshrug:
 
HeaLnDeaL said:
okay, I did play a number of secret hitlers with hannah I think, lemme look if there's any residual logs about her ever being scum there.
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Didn't find any logs, sorry. There's a server w/ invite links but most of the chatting happened on the website's chat so poof logs :c


JALMONT said:
This unfortunately is not a great take because *should* means nothing as contextually speaking everyone thought that inferno was getting lynched. clearly if you and former are on a scum team then it's in your interests to switch the vote to somehow who isn't you/former, aka inferno. we won't ever know how it would've played out had cap's unvote been counted
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Who thought inferno was getting lynched? I had my vote on Former and thought/was hopeful things were going that way and I wasn't online again until after deadline. I was definitely not thinking inferno was getting lynched, and that's why I was so mad at m2h for voting him.


I am also a bit weirded out by Jalmont pushing Former to claim who he protected. I definitely considered asking Former this question, but I decided not to because there was nothing to be gained from a doctor revealing this and I'd think it would be slightly more beneficial for the mafia to know who the doctor wanted to protect than it would for town to know who Former protected. I mean, our watcher is already dead, and watcher watching Former to see if they went to a target without killing them is something that would have been useful. If we didn't have a watcher die from mislynch then doctor sharing wut they did might have made a bit more sense since watcher could maybe verify their movements, but with Inferno dead idk. I'm a bit noobish when it comes to who should claim what and when, but I don't think doctor claiming who they saved provided much of anything to town in this particular situation.

Again, I'm a noob at when claims should be made, so if there's a different perspective I'm willing to listen. But for now, I don't get why doctor should claim who they protected in our specific point.

Hi DS, tell me all about yourself pls.
 
I think Former's claim is completely unverifiable, and so there's not a lot I can glean from it. He wanted to kill Hannah or Inferno, it makes no sense to protect inactive hannah/whydon or prolly even moodycloud or laurel who weren't substantive either. It's plausible doctor would protect m2h, but completely unverifiable.
 
HeaLnDeaL said:
I think Former's claim is completely unverifiable, and so there's not a lot I can glean from it. He wanted to kill Hannah or Inferno, it makes no sense to protect inactive hannah/whydon or prolly even moodycloud or laurel who weren't substantive either. It's plausible doctor would protect m2h, but completely unverifiable.
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no im asking how you feel about former claiming he doctored somebody he claims to scum read
 
if anybody else claimed they bged me I might believe it but the idea that town former docs his top scum read is interesting lol
 
well, I guess there's no substantive reason why a water town flip would make him go from wanting to protect m2h to thinking m2h is scum? Lemme reread the logic used when former decided to go after m2h
 
K, so after looking I did find the post where Former said there's a 55% chance m2h is scum back on page 7, which was closish to the deadline. Hrmm...

Going to just do this point blank. I know someone asked something similar to my question 1, but going to try these:

Former

1. Why did you think there was a 55% chance m2h was scum but then protect him?
2. Why did you self hammer if you were the doctor? Why would anyone be willing to screw over their alignment that badly?
 
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