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like if say mewtwo wasn't traitor then this game would feel a lot easier just because we'd have associations to come out of it

i also feel like heal doesn't care that ds townread him yesterday and is now feeling the otherwise(or i just haven't seen the reaction)

kinda wondering what conclusions you make off heal not caring there?
 
I also just want to say I'm sorry for voting cap instead of m2h, and I know that hurts town a lot. I didn't vote Inferno though, and I trusted Moody, and neither Moody or Inferno scumread me. To me mewtwo definitely wasn't acting like a normal mafia would act with the other potential mafia players so I townread him day 1, and lowered his rating from my top town pick to like my 3rd or 4th after the inferno mislynch, but I should have lowered him a lot more. Him not being a part of scumchat sort of messed up my reads because I had no way of knowing that. In retrospect, I now view his messages here of actively scumhunting, but then protecting the scum at the last minutes of the votes. Of course, this is too little too late and I still recognize that I fucked up voting cap over m2h.

he's too focused on former, but if he's mafia then he's kind of already trapped into that argument isn't he
I'm focused on former because it's mylo and I know he's scum because I don't think there is a town doctor because of my role and I don't know for sure who else is mafia. My disbelief of former's doc claim was super immediate from the second he said it. Whydon's certainly a candidate for scum, but with moody gone I don't have oodles to trust in. Feel like I can sort of trust that Nuxl is town, null read on DS/Jalmont.

I know I'm not in a good position right now. I'm not the one who made roles and assigned alignments this game, I can only deal with what samoyed gave me. I did everything I could day 2 to make scum target me so I could redirect, and the plan failed miserably and I'm sorry. But if Former's claim was true, I think it was in mafia's best interest to kill him, and I think him being alive after a doctor claim + his self hammer bs should be reasons why town should be very very skeptical of him. Not to mention Inferno and I voted Former together day 1 and he should have died if it wasn't for host error, but that's sort of beside the point rn I guess x.x

In the 0.00001% that Former is actually doctor, then I fully blame samoyed for giving town such a broken assortment of power roles that there's too much paranoia to trust anyone's claim. Even if Former isn't a doctor (which I fully believe) I think town is still quite OP with redirector + OS vig + inferno.

You guys can distrust my claim all you want, but look at Former's town-illogical decisions throughout this game. He killed Inferno with m2h, he claimed to night protect m2h after calling m2h likely scum, he tried to self hammer, etc.
 
1. Heal has claimed to be unkillable
2. Heal has claimed to be a 2nd town killing role, when Nuxl is already proven
3. Heal is also claiming he's the town protective role, so he's at odds with both me and nuxl
4. Given this is a PR game, mafia are guaranteed to have a way to deal with town actions, likely either as a roleblocker or a redirector

From these facts, if you do not see how heal is confirmed to be mafia here, then you need to reevaluate how you play mafia.
 
1. Heal has claimed to be unkillable
2. Heal has claimed to be a 2nd town killing role, when Nuxl is already proven
3. Heal is also claiming he's the town protective role, so he's at odds with both me and nuxl
4. Given this is a PR game, mafia are guaranteed to have a way to deal with town actions, likely either as a roleblocker or a redirector

From these facts, if you do not see how heal is confirmed to be mafia here, then you need to reevaluate how you play mafia.
Go shove this game and my hours of posting up ur nose into your cracked skull where you think your self hammer was a remotely okay town doctor play.
 
I thought you thought he was lying about being town doctor tho?
He's still saying he thinks it's okay for town doctor to self hammer, since that's what he's claiming. Like wtf, I'm not saying he's a town doctor who thinks it's okay to self hammer, I'm saying he's claiming to be a town doctor who thinks it's okay to hammer and it's a ridiculous claim.
 
This is your last day to avoid disaster, redeem yourselves instead of following a **supposed** self hammering doctor. Because apparently DS's reading comprehension is too low to understand context clues for what is a laughable claim and what it is someone actually thinks.
 
Whydon, if you're a townie, why are you even playing and then having the nerve to refuse being subbed out after doing nothing?
Former, if you really are a town doctor then yeah, uh thanks for ruining this game. For the much more likely scum you, grats for beating an OP town after you had the votes to be lynched twice but the host saved your ass both times. Really fair, huh?
 
There's also the fact that I never kill waterlily if I'm mafia

Doing so is bad for me as mafia, because it's a free mislynch, and it's bad because from my perspective, M2H and heal would be town confirmed after I flip, so I would want to kill one of them.


the only possibly time I do that, is if my role is important and somehow need to live another day. But in that case, I don't ever fish around for a CC, or try to lynch myself.
 
There's also the fact that I never kill waterlily if I'm mafia

Doing so is bad for me as mafia, because it's a free mislynch, and it's bad because from my perspective, M2H and heal would be town confirmed after I flip, so I would want to kill one of them.


the only possibly time I do that, is if my role is important and somehow need to live another day. But in that case, I don't ever fish around for a CC, or try to lynch myself.
Sounds like the sound of a toilet flushing as Former tries to hide his many turds for the mistakes he made. Will it even flush?
 
Also, slight update. I just checked out D6 and Whydon posted a shit ton more there as town than he did here. Who were the people who said Whydon doesn't post under both alignments and where's the thread proof?
 
Hmm should I just spill the beans?

In any case we don't have a mislynch but I think we're in an ok spot. We have two town roles that are pretty strong. Someone else can figure it out but surely there's a way we can stop the kills with the roles we have
 
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