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Pikachu315111 said:
Here's the new Yamask evo:
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Someone on Reddit noticed that this seems to be a reference to the Lingsberg runestones - it does look pretty similar!
 
(Credit to Blitzamirin for making this in the Discord)

Grookey #810
Thwakey #811
Rillabang #812
Scorbunny #813
Raboot #814
Cinderace #815
Sobble #816
Drizzle #817
Intelleon #818
Blipbug #819
Dottler #820
Orbeetle #821
Rookidee #822
Corvisquire #823
Corviknight #824
Skwovet #825
Greedent #826
Nickit #827
Thievul #828
Obstagoon #829
Wooloo #830
Dubwool #831
Chewtle #832
Drednaw #833
Yamper #834
Boltund #835
Gossifleur #836
Eldegoss #837
Sizzlipede #838
Centiskorch #839
Rolycoly #840
Carkol #841
Coallosal #842
Arrokuda #843
Barraskewda #844
Perrserker #845
Milcery #846
Alcremie #847
Applin #848
Flapple #849
Appletun #850
Sirfetch'd #851
Cursola #852
Impidimp #853
Morgrem #854
Grimmsnarl #855
Hattena #856
Hattrem #857
Hatterene #858
Cuphant #859
Copperajah #860
Cramorant #861
Toxel #862
Toxtricity #863
Silicobra #864
Sandaconda #865
Runerigus #866
Sinistea #867
Polteageist #868
Indeedee #869
Morpeko #870
Falinks #871
Snom #872
Frosmoth #873
Clobbopus #874
Grabbloct #875
Pinchurchin #876
Mr. Rime #877
Stonejourner #878
Eiscue #879
Duraludon #880
Dracozolt #881
Arctozolt #882
Dracovish #883
Acrtovish #884
Dreepy #885
Drakloak #886
Dragapult #887
Zacian #888
Zamazenta #889
Eternatus #890
 
....yeah I dont think this dex is complete. I'll wait for the datamines because stuff like mythicals cant be found by normal gameplay means, and just 3 new legends makes me suspicious as hell.
 
Waiting for the final dex percentages, but at a glance, Unova got KANTOOO-level shine and Hoenn/Sinnoh got ORAS Frontier'd.

Still waiting on *really* good reasons for this.
 
Count Bleck said:
....yeah I dont think this dex is complete. I'll wait for the datamines because stuff like mythicals cant be found by normal gameplay means, and just 3 new legends makes me suspicious as hell.
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Mythicals might get added after Eternatus, which probably will give us slots for Meltan, Melmetal, Mew and Mewtwo.

Not a lot more than that tho. If there's any.
 
Wouldn't it be amazing if there was a patch post launch that would shake up everything dex related? I thought i heard someone mention dlc earlier, where did that come from?
 
I'm loving it. This meta reminds me sooooo much of Third Gen (or even DPPl). 401 Pokémon (RSE had 386), from which a bunch of them are reliably usable and no Power Creep. Fifth Gen is by far the greatest Pokémon Generation in terms of raw ambition and content, but introduced the power creep we all know. There're decens of Pokémon like Kommo-o that, even if still usable, would've been absolute madness in 3rd or 4th Gen environments, but the power creep doesn't allow them to do that great. Just look at the list:

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Sure, I'll not go into a deep competitive analysis, but from the looks of it Kommo-o is 200% times better. Intimidate Qwilfish is not a bad spiker, Skarm isn't in the games and neither is Celesteela, meaning Corviknight has no competition in the Steel/Flying department. Megas are gone, Heatran and Landorus are no more, Magearna is rekt... Just look at the image, what are the best Pokémon you find? Things like Hawlucha —with no Electric Terrain support—, , Aegislash, Reuniclus, Hydreigon, Ferrothorn, Toxapex, Gyarados and then things like Hippowdon, Togekiss, Conkeldurr, Toxicroak, Mamoswine, Weavile, Bisharp...

Idk, it looks great. Oc, for the sake of in-game content I'll always preffer the entire dex. But, for the sake of playability, I do think this is not a step in the wrong direction. I'm pretty sure 8th Gen Meta would've remain Mage, Torn, Land, Regen Tangrowth and other things we are bored of as top OU contendants, just because even if the meta changes, they are so, soooo ahead in terms of typing, abilities, movepool or a combination of those that will always reign above everything else.
 
Sirya said:
Sure, I'll not go into a deep competitive analysis, but from the looks of it Kommo-o is 200% times better. Intimidate Qwilfish is not a bad spiker, Skarm isn't in the games and neither is Celesteela, meaning Corviknight has no competition in the Steel/Flying department. Megas are gone, Heatran and Landorus are no more, Magearna is rekt... Just look at the image, what are the best Pokémon you find? Things like Hawlucha —with no Electric Terrain support—, , Aegislash, Reuniclus, Hydreigon, Ferrothorn, Toxapex, Gyarados and then things like Hippowdon, Togekiss, Conkeldurr, Toxicroak, Mamoswine, Weavile, Bisharp...
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About Hawlucha, it could potentially Dynamax and run Thunder Punch if needed.
 
So a few non-legendary Pokemon I've noticed that will be amazing in the new Ubers format, barring any unexpected cool stuff

Aegislash: Self-evident really, but its type matches up solidly with the cover legendaries, it's immune to trapping (and wrecks both trappers anyway) and its effective 720BST willl be the highest in the game.

Volcarona: Very good in and of itself, and has a favourable type matchup against both Zacian forms, both Zamazenta forms, Aegislash and presumably the Dark-type Eternatus. I expect this one will be a mainstay, though it depends on what movepools Zacian and Zamazenta get -- rock type moves are as lethal to it as ever.

Gothitelle and Wobbuffet: Depends on the stats of the cover legends, but being able to trap and wall them is immensely useful when you know which opposing threats are the most dangerous.

Ferrothorn: Loses to Zamazenta, but otherwise still likely to be a decent hazards setter and general annoyance. Zacian's typing and Steel resisting itself makes me think non-legendary steels will still be pretty good in this meta.

Shedinja: Depending on movepools, might wall Zacian and Zamazenta. Another reason they will be inclined to run rock as a coverage move if they can.

Ditto: When 680BST threats are so rare, being able to get a third one is quite potent. Will also likely see use as an answer to Volcarona and any other setup shenanigans.

The big losers of the format

Tyranitar: Its sand is irrelevant when ubers is positively swarming with Steel types, and all of those steel types have amazing type matchups against it.

Hydreigon: Loses to both cover legendaries. Seems outclassed by Volcarona at everything it wants to be doing, and likely to share utility space with Eternatus.

Clefable: I don't see a possible world where any Fairy type other than Zacian makes any headway in this format.

In general, Dark types other than Eternatus and anything that loses to Steel will just get crowded out of the meta.
 
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Pikachu315111 said:
Appletun, the evo of Flapple that was predicted and the one that "worm in the apple" G-Max:
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I'm seeing on Twitter and 4chan that apparently this and flapple are actually version-based split evos of applin that share the same gigantamax? Flapple -> sword, appletun -> shield.

Looking back at the ultra blurry guidebook page for the gmax, they do have what looks like two separate base forms in the corners and two gmax move boxes. Bizarre.
 
Rarycaris said:
So a few non-legendary Pokemon I've noticed that will be amazing in the new Ubers format, barring any unexpected cool stuff

Aegislash: Self-evident really, but its type matches up solidly with the cover legendaries, it's immune to trapping (and wrecks both trappers anyway) and its effective 720BST willl be the highest in the game.

Volcarona: Very good in and of itself, and has a favourable type matchup against both Zacian forms, both Zamazenta forms, Aegislash and presumably the Dark-type Eternatus. I expect this one will be a mainstay, though it depends on what movepools Zacian and Zamazenta get -- rock type moves are as lethal to it as ever.

Gothitelle and Wobbuffet: Depends on the stats of the cover legends, but being able to trap and wall them is immensely useful when you know which opposing threats are the most dangerous.

Ferrothorn: Loses to Zamazenta, but otherwise still likely to be a decent hazards setter and general annoyance. Zacian's typing and Steel resisting itself makes me think non-legendary steels will still be pretty good in this meta.

Shedinja: Depending on movepools, might wall Zacian and Zamazenta. Another reason they will be inclined to run rock as a coverage move if they can.

Ditto: When 680BST threats are so rare, being able to get a third one is quite potent. Will also likely see use as an answer to Volcarona and any other setup shenanigans.

The big losers of the format

Tyranitar: Its sand is irrelevant when ubers is positively swarming with Steel types, and all of those steel types have amazing type matchups against it.

Hydreigon: Loses to both cover legendaries. Seems outclassed by Volcarona at everything it wants to be doing, and likely to share utility space with Eternatus.

Clefable: I don't see a possible world where any Fairy type other than Zacian makes any headway in this format.

In general, Dark types other than Eternatus and anything that loses to Steel will just get crowded out of the meta.
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Volcarona isn't in.
 
So I guess Magnezone isn't in? I don't like the sound of that as it opens up Steel spam.

Maybe one of the new Pokémon gets Magnet Pull.
 
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