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The Counter Game

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okay, sorry. ill go fix that.
anyways

charizard @ wacan berry
adamant
252 atk, 252 def, 6 speed
fire punch
earthquake
dragon claw
substitute

wacan to allow him to survive a thunderpunch, then fire punch or EQ.
sub up if he comes in on EQ.
 
im just gonna post that nothing with focus sash is a counter.

reducing berries are debatable but imo are not since counters should not only be able to switch in once, thats not a counter.
i mean maybe if you're all playing 2 pokes vs 2 pokes and youre only switching once but i think alot of you dont know what a counter is lol
 
I'm personally sick of seeing the same 10 pokemon over and over again =/
Also, sleep attacks mess up the game. Forces your counter to either carry insomnia type abilities or sleep talk (especially if Lum/Chesto don't work as counters due to only coming in once).
 
Gormenghast said:
im just gonna post that nothing with focus sash is a counter.

reducing berries are debatable but imo are not since counters should not only be able to switch in once, thats not a counter.
i mean maybe if you're all playing 2 pokes vs 2 pokes and youre only switching once but i think alot of you dont know what a counter is lol
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How exactly is focus sash not a counter???
This is assuming that both pokes start at full HP, and one has to switch in, being able to KO the opposing pokemon before it can KO yours... Switch something with a focus sash that can out-speed and OHKO the non weather-ability pokemon, the enemy's is dead, yours is at one HP. The other pokemon = dead. Your pokemon = alive. This scenario = countered.

choop said:
In my eyes, for the purposes of this game, a "counter" is a Pokemon that can switch into a Pokemon, and, assuming neither Pokemon switches, that counter Pokemon will end up with at least 1 HP, and the other Pokemon will be fainted.
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First post in the thread, proves my point further.
 
i understand that its less fun when its just blissey->tar->pert->cele->hera->skarm-> starmie->blissey

but i just want everyone to be aware that alakazam is hardly ever a "counter" lol

How exactly is focus sash not a counter???
This is assuming that both pokes start at full HP, and one has to switch in, being able to KO the opposing pokemon before it can KO yours... Switch something with a focus sash that can out-speed and OHKO the non weather-ability pokemon, the enemy's is dead, yours is at one HP. The other pokemon = dead. Your pokemon = alive. This scenario = countered.
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youre looking at your own definition of the word counter, not the accepted one

a counter is a pokemon that can consistently switch in on a pokemon without fear of getting ruined by an attack as it switches in, and force the pokemon it switched in on to switch
tar is a counter to ice beam softboiled stoss AT bliss for example
 
Gormenghast said:
youre looking at your own definition of the word counter, not the accepted one

a counter is a pokemon that can consistently switch in on a pokemon without fear of getting ruined by an attack and scare it away
tar is a counter to ice beam softboiled stoss AT bliss for example
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This game runs by the definition I provided in my post, as proved by the first post in the thread.
 
a counter can be only be a pokemon that can come in on a pokemon and waste it, then you have blissey coming in on an all special attacker, is this a counter? well think of it this way who would end up winning in this particular fight? despite being a 30 turn stall war my bet would be on blissey being the "Sp.Attack Counter Pokemon"
 
what are you arguing exactly. where did i say blissey was not a special attacker counter (minus specsluke or whatever)
 
kusaninja said:
okay, sorry. ill go fix that.
anyways

charizard @ wacan berry
adamant
252 atk, 252 def, 6 speed
fire punch
earthquake
dragon claw
substitute

wacan to allow him to survive a thunderpunch, then fire punch or EQ.
sub up if he comes in on EQ.
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Armaldo @ Choice Band
Battle Armor
Adamant
252 Atk/252 Def/4 Hp
Rock Blast
Stone Edge
X-Scissor
Earthquake
 
Gliscor @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Veil
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP, 4 Atk, 252 Def
~ Swords Dance
~ Roost
~ Earthquake
~ Ice Fang
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I would go with ...

Quagsire @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpA.
~ Eathquake
~ Ice Beam
~ Yawn
~ Encore

Can easily switch in on either Earthquake or Ice Fang. If it starts SDing Encore it, if not Yawn (to prevent roosting), then Ice Beam it until its dead.
 
Shiny Oddish said:
I would go with ...

Quagsire @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpA.
~ Eathquake
~ Ice Beam
~ Yawn
~ Encore

Can easily switch in on either Earthquake or Ice Fang. If it starts SDing Encore it, if not Yawn (to prevent roosting), then Ice Beam it until its dead.
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okay, this one i hard:
Groudon
Nature: Hasty
EV's: 252HP, 252 Speed, 6 def
- Solarbeam
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Rest

Shouldnt be too hard^^
Come in:
Faster than Quag, shoot 1-2 SB's and then Quag is down
 
Xyra said:
okay, this one i hard:
Groudon
Nature: Hasty
EV's: 252HP, 252 Speed, 6 def
- Solarbeam
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Rest

Shouldnt be too hard^^
Come in:
Faster than Quag, shoot 1-2 SB's and then Quag is down
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No ubers please... One of the rules at the start of the tread... Anyways...

@ Groundon

Abomasnow @ Leftovers
4 Atk, 252 SAtk, 252 Speed
Timid Natured
- Blizzard
- Wood Hammer
- Focus Punch
- HP Dark
 
No ubers please... One of the rules at the start of the tread... Anyways...
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Yeah, I told you that before Xyra.

@ Abomasnow

Scizor @ Leichi Berry
Swarm
Adamant
4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Endure
Agility
X-scissor
Reversal
 
@ Scizor:
Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Pressure
Bold
252 HP / 200 DEF / 58 SPDEF
Hidden Power Fighting
Calm Mind
Pain Split
Shadow Ball

Calm Mind up while its attacks do hardly anything to you, then hit it with Hidden Power when you're ready. Unless he is a mastermind predictor, he probably won't anticipate when you decide to attack and won't get the Endure off.
 
Xênaz said:
@ Scizor:
Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Pressure
Bold
252 HP / 200 DEF / 58 SPDEF
Hidden Power Fighting
Calm Mind
Pain Split
Shadow Ball

Calm Mind up while its attacks do hardly anything to you, then hit it with Hidden Power when you're ready. Unless he is a mastermind predictor, he probably won't anticipate when you decide to attack and won't get the Endure off.
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Blissey@Leftovers
252 Hp, 252 Sp.Def, 6Def
Bold
-Toxic
-Calm Mind
-Ice Beam
-Softboiled

Toxic then calm mind up
 
Djengo said:
Blissey@Leftovers
252 Hp, 252 Sp.Def, 6Def
Bold
-Toxic
-Calm Mind
-Ice Beam
-Softboiled

Toxic then calm mind up
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Lucario @ Leftovers
252 HP / 96 Def / 136 SpD / 24 Spe
Adamant
-Extremespeed
-Close Combat
-Swords Dance
-Crunch

Resists Ice Beam, immune to Toxic and will definitely mess your Blissey up with Close Combat with or without the Swords Dance.
 
IAmNoCommunist said:
Lucario @ Leftovers
252 HP / 96 Def / 136 SpD / 24 Spe
Adamant
-Extremespeed
-Close Combat
-Swords Dance
-Crunch

Resists Ice Beam, immune to Toxic and will definitely mess your Blissey up with Close Combat with or without the Swords Dance.
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Spiritomb@Leftovers
252 HP / 252 Def / 6 Sp.Def
Bold
-Hypnosis
-Pain Split
-Hidden Power Ground
-Shadow Ball
 
To Armaldo:

Regirock @ Leftovers
Careful@ 252/0/56/0/200/0
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Curse
Rest

Regirock takes only 34-40% from EQ, takes little from Stone Edge and Scissor Cross, and is immune to Screech. It can Curse up to his hearts content, and KO with Stone Edge.
 
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