Unpopular opinions

I always got annoyed when people try to argue the "pokémon protags should be older" because "it's not realistic!!!! why are these kids doing this instead of adults???? lol how ridiculous"

I thought it was pretty obvious that it's meant to be escapism fiction for kids. It's not meant to be realistic or grounded, it's meant for kids to have fun imagining themselves getting powerful pokémon and taking down super-powered legendaries and then the almighty champion.

You can just say that you want older protags because you want to see yourself in the game. You don't have to go "Pretty unrealistic that a kid is taking down a villain team. I am very intelligent."
 
Lemingue said:
I always got annoyed when people try to argue the "pokémon protags should be older" because "it's not realistic!!!! why are these kids doing this instead of adults???? lol how ridiculous"

I thought it was pretty obvious that it's meant to be escapism fiction for kids. It's not meant to be realistic or grounded, it's meant for kids to have fun imagining themselves getting powerful pokémon and taking down super-powered legendaries and then the almighty champion.

You can just say that you want older protags because you want to see yourself in the game. You don't have to go "Pretty unrealistic that a kid is taking down a villain team. I am very intelligent."
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I definitely agree. Especially considering that the target demographic for the first buy-in to Pokémon is probably like 10-11yo, it makes sense that they would have protagonists at that age.

Is it an unpopular opinion to really like Sword and Shield, and to really like the graphics, and to not care about the dex cut? I like gen 8. It's not without its flaws, such as dynamax (literally the worst mechanic Gamefreak has invented), but the battle themes are hype, the story was ok, the character writing was amazing. I felt like I was playing with beings with emotions and it was good.
 
dnomy said:
Is it an unpopular opinion to really like Sword and Shield, and to really like the graphics, and to not care about the dex cut? I like gen 8. It's not without its flaws, such as dynamax (literally the worst mechanic Gamefreak has invented), but the battle themes are hype, the story was ok, the character writing was amazing. I felt like I was playing with beings with emotions and it was good.
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Sir, this is the Unpopular Opinion thread, not the "I wish to anger the entire forum userbase and deeply crave murder".

Please come with me, I'll escort you to a safe space :psynervous: I'll protect you before you risk shouting other dangerous sentences such as this one
 
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Lemingue said:
I always got annoyed when people try to argue the "pokémon protags should be older" because "it's not realistic!!!! why are these kids doing this instead of adults???? lol how ridiculous"

I thought it was pretty obvious that it's meant to be escapism fiction for kids. It's not meant to be realistic or grounded, it's meant for kids to have fun imagining themselves getting powerful pokémon and taking down super-powered legendaries and then the almighty champion.

You can just say that you want older protags because you want to see yourself in the game. You don't have to go "Pretty unrealistic that a kid is taking down a villain team. I am very intelligent."
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Tbh I don't despise the protags being 10-11 years old. My only problem is that they look like 14 years old at minimum (teenagers) except for alola protags which are the only ones that actually seem appropriate for their age while BW1 protags are canonically teenagers. The body shape and height for both male and female protags look nothing like 10-11 years old
 
death dreigon said:
Tbh I don't despise the protags being 10-11 years old. My only problem is that they look like 14 years old at minimum (teenagers) except for alola protags which are the only ones that actually seem appropriate for their age while BW1 protags are canonically teenagers. The body shape and height for both male and female protags look nothing like 10-11 years old
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When I was 10-11 I imagined myself as a little older/wished I was, so I think it works


Worldie said:
Sir, this is the Unpopular Opinion thread, not the "I wish to anger the entire forum userbase and deeply crave murder".

Please come with me, I'll escort you to a safe space :psynervous: I'll protect you before you risk shouting other dangerous sentences such as this one
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Show me on the Pokedex where Gamefreak hurt you
 
I don't like the National Dex.
1. Lore(?) The term National implies it's all one country, but that doesn't make sense.
2. Prize. Catching 898 Pokemon takes a long time, even with trading. For just a Shiny Charm?? (Oh and a paper fromn Masuda.)
3. Size. Aside from making an absolutely HUGE region, how are you gonna stuff all those Pokemon in there, in logical places. Even without Legendaries and Mythicals, there's still like 750 at least right?

However, I still VASTLY prefer the way SM/USUM did it over SwSh (All Pokemon being transferrable, but not catchable.)
 
SillierCrayon said:
However, I still VASTLY prefer the way SM/USUM did it over SwSh (All Pokemon being transferrable, but not catchable.)
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Heh, by this point it's pretty evident the only reason SwSh ""lacks"" the entire Pokedex was purely lack of time to have all animations ready.

By now I'd say there's a significantly high chance that the next generation (if not Arceus Legends itself) will have the entire pokedex available via transfer.
In fact I'm quite confident that between SwSh, Gen 4 remakes and Arceus Legend, the entire cast will be available in some way in gen 8, basically leading the way to a full gen 9 dex available directly on the Switch.
 
Worldie said:
By now I'd say there's a significantly high chance that the next generation (if not Arceus Legends itself) will have the entire pokedex available via transfer.
In fact I'm quite confident that between SwSh, Gen 4 remakes and Arceus Legend, the entire cast will be available in some way in gen 8, basically leading the way to a full gen 9 dex available directly on the Switch.
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Just like how SWSH had every Kanto Pokemon... Oh wait.

Just stop the cope. It's over. Unless they decide to go all-out and pull an "Everyone is here!" for a major anniversary USUM will remain the last game where you can have every existing Pokemon up to that point on one file
 
I personally preferred the approach on that Pokémon Bank and HOME are now where the National Dex is placed.

I never liked that you had to transfer the entire National Dex just to get a Shiny Charm, in every single game. That's just bragging rights at that point. Reducing it to just get the entire Regional Dex is dramatically more reasonable (but still not enough for me to want to fill it, but that's another story) because players who lack earlier entries have a much milder disadvantage.

Although I guess that's because I am among those who would be at a massive disadvantage, as I didn't own an actual Pokémon game until Moon - up to that point, it was nothing but playing through emulators.
 
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Yung Dramps said:
Just like how SWSH had every Kanto Pokemon... Oh wait.

Just stop the cope. It's over. Unless they decide to go all-out and pull an "Everyone is here!" for a major anniversary USUM will remain the last game where you can have every existing Pokemon up to that point on one file
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I will be interested to see when BDSP are released how the whole Dexit thing will shake out with WiFi battles and such.
 
Yung Dramps said:
Just like how SWSH had every Kanto Pokemon... Oh wait.

Just stop the cope. It's over. Unless they decide to go all-out and pull an "Everyone is here!" for a major anniversary USUM will remain the last game where you can have every existing Pokemon up to that point on one file
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Or you could stop with your own coping and gamefreak shitting and try to connect the dots.
The "dexit" as "the games won't have all pokemon for variety" died ages ago.

It doesn't take a gamefreak apologist to do it, come on, I get this is smogon but...
 
Yung Dramps said:
Just like how SWSH had every Kanto Pokemon... Oh wait.
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Did Let's Go have any unique animations from USUM that returned in SwSh? Not counting the walking animations because those already existed. From my understanding, the problematic new animations in Sword and Shield had to do with Camp (which I think reused a lot of Amie animations, but still had some new ones?) and Dynamaxing, neither of which existed in Let's Go, so Kanto mons wouldn't have any technical advantage due to already existing on the Switch. SwSh also seems to render stuff like textures differently, so I don't think you could even make the argument that they were less effort to texture.
 
dnomy said:
Is it an unpopular opinion to really like Sword and Shield, and to really like the graphics, and to not care about the dex cut? I like gen 8. It's not without its flaws, such as dynamax (literally the worst mechanic Gamefreak has invented), but the battle themes are hype, the story was ok, the character writing was amazing. I felt like I was playing with beings with emotions and it was good.
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Personally, while it may be a bit of an unpopular opinion, you're not alone in liking Sword and Shield. I won't deny that the game is flawed, but I loved it so much myself. The atmosphere around Galar and its gym battles was absolutely amazing and I loved the whole sports culture around battling Sword and Shield had, really made the Gym Challenge feel like a much bigger deal this time around. And I loved the characters: yeah, the story was simple, but I agree about the character writing. Hop, Bede, Marnie, etc. were all great characters and had a lot of dynamics and personality as well as their own arcs which I feel was the biggest strength of Sword and Shield's adventure. Leon is one of my favorite Champions ever honestly.

The Wild Area concepts were also really fun, especially the DLC which really made me enjoy Sword and Shield all that much more. The Isle of Armor and Crown Tundra are fantastic in terms of exploration and feeling cohesive and natural, and exploring full fledged areas with Wild Pokemon from a full on 3D perspective was incredibly fun (I hope Legends: Arceus takes this concept and makes it even better). Plus the stuff like Dynamax Adventures and Restricted Sparring is quite fun to do every now and then, and the QoL changes help with regards to preparing mons for battling and making the competitive/Battle Tower aspect less tedious than it used to be. For all the flaws the game has, the game has a lot of things that are so good about the game that I can never bring myself to truly dislike Sword and Shield: it's the most fun I've had playing Pokemon in a long time. I don't deny the game is flawed, but that didn't stop me from enjoying it all the same.

Also on a tangential note, but while Sword and Shield does have a lot of hate/divisive reception to it right now, I believe that will change in some years from now. Right now the people who "got into Pokemon" via Sword and Shield are still young kids, not actively engaged in online communities, but some day, when they're older and join the Internet more often, and we are some more generations into the future for Pokemon (like say, we're in Gen 10 or Gen 11 for example), those people will be singing the high praises about Sword and Shield and their nostalgia for it, and Sword and Shield will be praised and revered as a pinnacle of the franchise and one of the greatest Pokemon games. Considering how successful Sword and Shield were, even moreso than XY or DP, selling nearly on par with Gen 2, the nostalgia for Gen 8 will be very, very strong and we will have a massive number of Gen 8 nostalgics talking about how they really want Sword and Shield remakes (or maybe even Legends: Calyrex or something too): the magnitude of this will be even greater than what's going on with Gen 4 right now, possibly on par with Gen 2's nostalgia.

Yeah, the game is still flawed at the end of the day, but when it comes to nostalgia, that doesn't matter. Gen 2 is one of the most highly praised generations because of nostalgia alone, and to this day is praised so highly and considered by many to be the best, even though in actuality Gold and Silver, as well as HGSS, are very heavily flawed games that suffer from a lot of poor game design issues, but in the end, GSC/HGSS's awful game design and many flaws didn't stop them from being praised so highly because of the rose-tinted nostalgia glasses of many (keep in mind, I do like GSC and HGSS in spite of their poor game design). I fully expect Sword and Shield to reach a similar magnitude of praise and nostalgia someday years from now just as Gold and Silver and their remakes do to this day. It's still too recent right now to have reached that point, but some day, the tides will change and people will be talking about how much they love Sword and Shield while talking about how whatever new Pokemon game is out at that point doesn't hold a candle to Gen 8 and the Switch era.
 
ScraftyIsTheBest said:
I fully expect Sword and Shield to reach a similar magnitude of praise and nostalgia someday years from now just as Gold and Silver and their remakes do to this day. It's still too recent right now to have reached that point, but some day, the tides will change and people will be talking about how much they love Sword and Shield while talking about how whatever new Pokemon game is out at that point doesn't hold a candle to Gen 8 and the Switch era.
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"BuT yOu DoN'T GeT iT, SwSH is OBJECTIVELY:tm: bAd aNd WiLl NeVeR bE LovEd"

-morons downing copium and willfully ignoring the history of the franchise's fan reception since gen 3
 
None of this shit stops me from hating what Pokemon has become since XY. And the fact that they've almost completely lost me by now. Sure, me, one person, doesn't matter in grand scheme of things. But's it not going to stop my bitching and maybe sometimes convincing others not to buy into the main series anymore. I'll put in all the bad word of mouth I need to, when needed and when I feel like it.
 
King Feraligatr said:
None of this shit stops me from hating what Pokemon has become since XY. And the fact that they've almost completely lost me by now. Sure, me, one person, doesn't matter in grand scheme of things. But's it not going to stop my bitching and maybe sometimes convincing others not to buy into the main series anymore. I'll put in all the bad word of mouth I need to, when needed and when I feel like it.
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No offense buddy, but it seems to me at this point based on this post and several ones you've made before that this franchise sincerely isn't for you anymore. I mean this in all sincerity, but I think it is better at this point for you to simply quit the franchise. There is no point in moping around about a series that no longer has you liking it the way it used to. All you're succeeding in doing at this point is making yourself unhappy and actively making things worse for yourself.

As for you "bitching" and "convincing others not to buy into the games", what good will come out of that? I sincerely implore you to ask yourself what you have to gain from doing that. The former just serves to hurt yourself and drive you further into unhappiness, and the latter is also pretty petty and I wouldn't recommend it. I mean this in general, but there are many games and media that I do not like, but it is not my place to police whether other people buy and enjoy stuff I don't like, and odds are there may be some people, many even, who do genuinely like and enjoy the newer Pokemon games, for example, and who am I to stop them? If other people want to buy and enjoy the games, that's entirely on them. I mean this in general, but even if I dislike a piece of media or the direction a franchise is going, that doesn't mean I will try to convince other not to buy it if they are still interested and want to buy it. Plus there are many kids out there who probably do enjoy the newer games rn, and I'm not one to stop them from having fun. Personally I just express my dislike and move on.

Seriously, I suggest simply quitting at this point. You're not really doing anyone a favor by continuing to rant about it and spreading negativity. And the fact that they've almost completely lost you at this point further suggests to me that it's time for you to move on and quit this franchise. I don't really think anything The Pokemon Company does going forward will change that, unfortunately. I really believe that by dropping this franchise altogether you'll probably be happier at that rate.

It's better to focus on things that do make you happy in life than to focus on what doesn't make you happy. Personally, if something doesn't make me happy anymore, I just abandon it and move on to other things. Continuing to rant about things that don't make you happy is sincerely not healthy and only serves to make things worse for yourself.
 
ScraftyIsTheBest said:
No offense buddy, but it seems to me at this point based on this post and several ones you've made before that this franchise sincerely isn't for you anymore. I mean this in all sincerity, but I think it is better at this point for you to simply quit the franchise. There is no point in moping around about a series that no longer has you liking it the way it used to. All you're succeeding in doing at this point is making yourself unhappy and actively making things worse for yourself.

As for you "bitching" and "convincing others not to buy into the games", what good will come out of that? I sincerely implore you to ask yourself what you have to gain from doing that. The former just serves to hurt yourself and drive you further into unhappiness, and the latter is also pretty petty and I wouldn't recommend it. I mean this in general, but there are many games and media that I do not like, but it is not my place to police whether other people buy and enjoy stuff I don't like, and odds are there may be some people, many even, who do genuinely like and enjoy the newer Pokemon games, for example, and who am I to stop them? If other people want to buy and enjoy the games, that's entirely on them. I mean this in general, but even if I dislike a piece of media or the direction a franchise is going, that doesn't mean I will try to convince other not to buy it if they are still interested and want to buy it. Plus there are many kids out there who probably do enjoy the newer games rn, and I'm not one to stop them from having fun. Personally I just express my dislike and move on.

Seriously, I suggest simply quitting at this point. You're not really doing anyone a favor by continuing to rant about it and spreading negativity. And the fact that they've almost completely lost you at this point further suggests to me that it's time for you to move on and quit this franchise. I don't really think anything The Pokemon Company does going forward will change that, unfortunately. I really believe that by dropping this franchise altogether you'll probably be happier at that rate.

It's better to focus on things that do make you happy in life than to focus on what doesn't make you happy. Personally, if something doesn't make me happy anymore, I just abandon it and move on to other things. Continuing to rant about things that don't make you happy is sincerely not healthy and only serves to make things worse for yourself.
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Not the one this is directly addressed to. Don't care.

To put it bluntly, I feel like I've moved on as far as I can. Haven't played the newest games, don't carry an expectation of liking future games. I have tried to look for other games I can put myself into like I used to with pokemon. I have failed quite a lot, because every other stupid series is also reinventing itself and replacing what I find interesting with what I do not. I am tired of failing. "Just don't constantly think about your main interest" is not something that as an autistic person I am capable of doing.
 
ScraftyIsTheBest said:
No offense buddy, but it seems to me at this point based on this post and several ones you've made before that this franchise sincerely isn't for you anymore. I mean this in all sincerity, but I think it is better at this point for you to simply quit the franchise. There is no point in moping around about a series that no longer has you liking it the way it used to. All you're succeeding in doing at this point is making yourself unhappy and actively making things worse for yourself.

As for you "bitching" and "convincing others not to buy into the games", what good will come out of that? I sincerely implore you to ask yourself what you have to gain from doing that. The former just serves to hurt yourself and drive you further into unhappiness, and the latter is also pretty petty and I wouldn't recommend it. I mean this in general, but there are many games and media that I do not like, but it is not my place to police whether other people buy and enjoy stuff I don't like, and odds are there may be some people, many even, who do genuinely like and enjoy the newer Pokemon games, for example, and who am I to stop them? If other people want to buy and enjoy the games, that's entirely on them. I mean this in general, but even if I dislike a piece of media or the direction a franchise is going, that doesn't mean I will try to convince other not to buy it if they are still interested and want to buy it. Plus there are many kids out there who probably do enjoy the newer games rn, and I'm not one to stop them from having fun. Personally I just express my dislike and move on.

Seriously, I suggest simply quitting at this point. You're not really doing anyone a favor by continuing to rant about it and spreading negativity. And the fact that they've almost completely lost you at this point further suggests to me that it's time for you to move on and quit this franchise. I don't really think anything The Pokemon Company does going forward will change that, unfortunately. I really believe that by dropping this franchise altogether you'll probably be happier at that rate.

It's better to focus on things that do make you happy in life than to focus on what doesn't make you happy. Personally, if something doesn't make me happy anymore, I just abandon it and move on to other things. Continuing to rant about things that don't make you happy is sincerely not healthy and only serves to make things worse for yourself.
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His profile says that he enjoys ROM hacks a lot, which is what I would personally suggest for anyone who likes Pokémon but doesn't like the newer games.
 
Yung Dramps said:
"BuT yOu DoN'T GeT iT, SwSH is OBJECTIVELY:tm: bAd aNd WiLl NeVeR bE LovEd"

-morons downing copium and willfully ignoring the history of the franchise's fan reception since gen 3
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bro this is smogon not reddit. the only "cope" and "seethe" on this site is my tournament opponents seething and coping with the fact that i am simply better than them at pokemon
 
Lemingue said:
the only copium here is me coping with the fact alolan sitting cuties will take 5 years to arrive
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Mmm, tangerines
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Ironmage said:
Not the one this is directly addressed to. Don't care.

To put it bluntly, I feel like I've moved on as far as I can. Haven't played the newest games, don't carry an expectation of liking future games. I have tried to look for other games I can put myself into like I used to with pokemon. I have failed quite a lot, because every other stupid series is also reinventing itself and replacing what I find interesting with what I do not. I am tired of failing. "Just don't constantly think about your main interest" is not something that as an autistic person I am capable of doing.
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This is a pretty understandable feeling. When a series that grabbed you in every way drops the ball and now you share more disdain with it than more flawed products (cough Temtem).

I think this is why I can't help but feel this way about the anime. I don't watch it anymore, but it's a topic that constantly keeps coming back bc of fan groups. "It's for kids" doesn't cut it, there are plenty of animation works right now also "for kids" that I find more engaging and keep coming back to them despite being in my 20s, yet the anime of my favorite franchise can't. And when I see other official Pokemon animation like Generations, Twilight Wings or Poketoons; that get me this feeling of wonder and enjoyment and the main anime can't even do a fraction of that, I'm disappointed...
 
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