DO NOT QUESTION SCIENTIFIC RIGOR!!! >:B
(and yes, the fact that Gundam G's designs [and plot] are utterly ridiculous is the biggest part of the joke)
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(and yes, the fact that Gundam G's designs [and plot] are utterly ridiculous is the biggest part of the joke)
Honestly? If I could tell my boss that my vacation is research work and should count I'd do it. Steal work hours baby.
I don't think we'll get an european region for gen 9 (and hopefully never again), the most likely candidates are canada, australia, china, korea or brazil but pretty much anyone from east asia and south america has a chance tbh. Rip their vacation tho with covid
I don't think we'll get an european region for gen 9 (and hopefully never again), the most likely candidates are canada, australia, china, korea or brazil but pretty much anyone from east asia and south america has a chance tbh. Rip their vacation tho with covid
I'd also like to see other continents, but why no more Europe?
Because europe only has two aesthetics: boring or extremely ugly
I just wanna say that certain countries discussed here like Brazil and China are way, WAY too big and culturally diverse across regions to be compressed into one in-game location. You could easily make multiple gens from each
This. They didn't even use all of New York state for Unova* or all of France for Kalos or all of the UK for Galar**.
Though I disagree on Lemingue's assessment of Europe - Spain, Greece, and Italy all seem like perfectly suitable choices and have aesthetics that would be easily adaptable. Ironically Hong Kong would be a good part of China to adapt but as someone noted earlier it's unlikely to be used any time soon given the geopolitical implications of doing so. Honestly I think they're best off avoiding China in general as I think it's less likely to have worldwide appeal in the same way recent regions have.
*though my headcanon has always been that the Nature Preserve in B2W2 is Niagara Falls
**Troubles-inspired DLC set in Ireland/Northern Ireland soon pls Game Freak
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I just do not see anything marginally appealing about european countries. Anything that's decent, another place does it better or its just stolen and they ruined it anyways. They're like the most mediocre region of the world easily.
Except ireland and scotland. Theyre cool.
I don't think country size is an issue in general. Gamefreak already only picks the most touristy parts of the non-japanese regions with one or two oddballs, I don't see why that wouldnt work with big regions like brazil or australia. For example, I could see them just only doing sidney, neighbooring regions and then smushing together all the rest into a single desert area, picking the most popular cultural icons from it and calling it a day
Except ireland and scotland. Theyre cool.
I don't think country size is an issue in general. Gamefreak already only picks the most touristy parts of the non-japanese regions with one or two oddballs, I don't see why that wouldnt work with big regions like brazil or australia. For example, I could see them just only doing sidney, neighbooring regions and then smushing together all the rest into a single desert area, picking the most popular cultural icons from it and calling it a day
An Italy region would be so blessed, though I'm certainly biased because Italy is a huge central figure for music, especially since the entirety of Opera is Italian, and a huge chunk majority of western classical music in general came from France, Italy, and Germany. It'd def be a waste if they did a Italy region without at least having a music mon (I'm also extra biased cause I want more music pokemon lmao)
Europe is such a mediocre and boring continent that among the Top 10 most visited countries according to WorldAtlas, half the countries are european lol.
Well as a French, I'd like to see a Southern France-based region, moreover, Corsica would be a perfect place for a Battle Zone (well, if GF decides to add one ofc). A region based on Madagascar would be also dope, since it's an island with a good fauna and flora variety, but also a good climate one (northern and eastern parts are generally wet while the southern are driest.) which will allow it to stand out from Alola, which is generally sunny.
If they make another Europe-based region, they should base it on Germany and put a bunch of Fire types in it, because that would be hilarious.
What do you mean heat wave jokes are three years old now?
What do you mean heat wave jokes are three years old now?
people visiting it does not change their mediocrity. disneyland is super popular after all.
Though I just realized I'm not sure how much of this region talk is still in the rules or wishlisting, are we even allowed to continue with the current topic?
I think there's a clear distinction between "Spain is a plausible contender for a future region and has a distinct cultural aesthetic Game Freak could easily utilise" and "omg Spain would be amazing I hope that's the Gen IX region! There should be a matador-themed Pokemon".
But I'm also not a mod so take that with a pinch of salt etc
While do think there should be more geographic diversity among regions- I'd love something Mexico-inspired or South Asian-inspired- I'd be absolutely lying if I said I wouldn't be hyped as all hell if they announced a region based on Italy or the D.C. metropolitan area. Former I think is a lock by at least Generation XII or so, the latter would probably not happen. Former might even have a trainer that has my name! (I'm Italian, and I'm from that area, so I think the point here is pretty obvious- a lot of people would go crazy for a region based on where they're from)
Pretty much this. Whatever one they pick they're going to focus on the cities which are big vacation/tourist spots (which is a big criticism on GF's part for possibly not accurately representing the culture that region is based on but that's not a discussion for here) as the center and then include other towns and cities nearby to expand upon the region until they have enough material.
- If they pick Brazil, going by this regional map and these topographic & cities maps, I would guess they'd do something like like a region which is essentially the Central West (to get Brasilia), Southeast (to get Rio de Janeiro & San Paulo), and enough of the North to get their fill of the Amazon Rainforest (probably would also want to include the Amazon River too).
- If they pick China, we're pretty much going to be staying in the North with Beijing being the main city. So North, Northeast, and maybe Northwest. If you think we're going to get anywhere close to Hong Kong and Tibet you're dreaming. Not unless they want to risk with deal with Tencent and lose the entire Chinese market.
Now remember Sinnoh isn't based on ancient Japan, rather it's based pretty much around Japan's Industrial Revolution, the Meiji era, when it was also opening up to the world, aka just a hundred or so years ago.
For Kalos, my guess they would do around the same time, the late 1800s, aka the time of the French Third Republic and likely around the time when the Eiffel Tower was constructed for 1889's World Fair.
Infact, if they want to keep "continuity", they could probably have all the regions takes place around that same time period.
- New York was seeing a massive influx of immigration whom were greeted by the Statue of Liberty.
- UK was in the Victorian Era and mid their Industrial Revolution.
- Hawaii was being heavily colonized and seeing the end of the reign of Hawaiian royalty.
As green_typhlosion said, I think we're fine. It's not like we're actually making up a region, just noting possible locations and what these locations have to offer.
That's a pretty good guess. I hope this doesn't count as wishlisting considering it's not how I even wish the Brazilian region would be set up but what I'd imagine they would take:
- Pretty much everything from São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro from the southeast region. It'd be probably half of the region and would have elements from it forced onto places inspired by other regions too. Minas Gerais would be ignored as it has very few tourist attractions and it's very forgettable, save for one or two iconic places they'd take;
- Central west but literally only Distrito Federal, since that's where Brasília is. That place is just half government stuff and half rich people so I have no clue what they'd do with it. I really doubt they'd even try to include Goías (why did we make a state the size of a small city inside another state instead of just.... making Distrito Federal a city again? Like what's the goal here??? JK you fucking moron), let alone the rest of the states
- Amazonas as the defacto North representation, but that's only technically because it'd only be forests and completely ignore that people live there and there are actual cities. Because everyone does that.
- Maybe Bahia too, considering it's an important cultural piece due to being home of the major ports of the slave trade, and as such containing the most of Afro-brazilian cultures. It'd probably be reduced to "carnaval and desert" though so lol
- South but only for the obligatory late game ice area. It doesn't even snow there for 99% of the year idk what they're even going to do lmao
That's why I said
big enough and invested enough to get a second region
seriously, jokes aside everyone has been trying to penetrate the chinese market since at least last decade, now that Gamefreak has made a deal with Tencent, expect China to get a bit of a "special treatment", and that's not even counting how proud chinese people are of being chinese, they're gonna expect Gamefreak to do their homework thoroughly when depicting their country, after all, is not as if they don't know how much foreign companies want to get on their good side
seriously just look at the way Pokemon friggin Quest was advertized in Hangzhou
a second region for China is a distinct possibility if only for them
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Let's be realistic: any country barring a nation like Vatican City or Andorra is going to be inundated with claims that GF left something out or focused on the geographical stereotypes. (Remember stereotypes generally have a level of truth in them. People visit Paris to see the Eiffel Tower). TV Tropes has a page about the situation: Small Reference Pools.
Of course, but it does feel like gamefreak relies too much on stereotypes vs proper research for the newer gens sometimes. The japan games all have their own little stereotypes, but their nuance and portrayal still feel natural, which makes sense. There are small towns and popular sites and areas that are probably based on their downtown street.
When you compare it to something like galar or kalos, it does feel like the region is just its high tourist attractions and either popular areas around it or very generic stereotypical references. Not to say every single route and town is like this, but it feels more like they spent 2 weeks in France and bought a "guide to France" book for the research
Game Freak had the right idea with Pokemon availability in Gen 2. Their implementation is, on the other hand, very clearly off. A lot of Gen 2 mons should've been stronger to compensate for their rarity, it should've been much easier to get Steelix and Scizor (no trading or going after like dozens of Magnemite for the Metal Coat), and they should've made Pikachu + Kanto Starters available ingame and relatively early if they were really worried about the Johto mons overshadowing the Kanto ones). The last one would honestly have made Johto even more wildly popular.
On the other hand, I appreciate them thinking and considering that the Gen 2 mons might put off longtime fans. I'm not gonna lie, Gen 3 put me off for sure with Hoenn Pokemon being so predominant and ''familiar mons'' being far rarer overall, and their designs were inferior to Johto's for the most part IMO (I like them, don't get me wrong, but they kinda seem...strange or something). Unova had a straight up horrible balance in the original games (the sequels get it right though I think) too, Alola seems fine (kinda like Johto, actually), and I haven't played Galar or Kalos so can't comment on them.
On the other hand, I appreciate them thinking and considering that the Gen 2 mons might put off longtime fans. I'm not gonna lie, Gen 3 put me off for sure with Hoenn Pokemon being so predominant and ''familiar mons'' being far rarer overall, and their designs were inferior to Johto's for the most part IMO (I like them, don't get me wrong, but they kinda seem...strange or something). Unova had a straight up horrible balance in the original games (the sequels get it right though I think) too, Alola seems fine (kinda like Johto, actually), and I haven't played Galar or Kalos so can't comment on them.
Wouldn't GF have the opposite concern, the Kanto Starters overshadowing the Johto Starters?
I... kind of prefer that. I want the new Pokemon on the forefront. I already played the previous games and, if not for long, used the older Pokemon, I want to play around with the new Pokemon. It's nice to have the older Pokemon as an option, but its the new Pokemon's time to shine.
Is that only because BW used only new Pokemon and B2W2 allowed us to catch older gen Pokemon again? I didn't find a problem with the balance.
Tbh I think it's the opposite logic they were going for.
In-game, loads of trainers in GSC use Kanto starters. Literally no-one other than the rival uses a Johto starter (they don't even appear in the Battle Tower). GF probably assumed the majority of players had played RBY and so already had the Kanto starters/could trade them to GSC. But the thinking was to make the Johto ones so rare that people would be much more interested in them.
I can't say too much since I haven't played SS yet. But I felt Kalos and Alola worked well enough and felt legitimate. Then again, Japan is GF's home base. The employees will naturally be able to bring those little nuances to the table from years of living there. Even Pixar, famed for their in-depth research, have been accused of stereotypes. Ultimately, there is no substitute for experience.
Outside of mystery gift, Cal in the Trainer House in Viridian has Meganium/Typhlosion/Feraligatr but yea
Also in Crystal you're able to get Pikachu fairly early via odd egg Pichu which is smth ig