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:ss/quagsire:

Quagsire @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Relaxed Nature
- Scald
- Earthquake
- Recover
- Toxic

Calling it a check because realistically it gets Knocked Off and needs to be fully healthy no hazards on field/status to keep it at bay after losing boots. Sits on SD due to Unaware, Recover loops until it's in position to click Toxic.
 
hey everyone! i've crawled out from my little grave, and i'll be stepping in for katy this time around, because i know you all missed me. don't lie to yourselves, you know you did.

sincere much-deservedflattery aside, its voting time!

checks:
:corviknight:by HydreigonTheChild
:tapu koko:by TailGlowVM
:quagsire:by AM
:scizor: by SLDR
:buzzwole: by agslash23
:melmetal: by ViZar (even though you didnt write out your reservation, melmetal always eats a +2 knock off no matter what so i just went for check)
:conkeldurr: by avg
counters:
:toxapex:by Dr Ya Yeet
:skarmory:by JTD783
:tapu fini: by Tysonslayer
:incineroar: by @wingdingsss (also didnt fill out reservation but incineroar sits on weav all day so ill just do this ig)

2 checks, 2 counters people.
get to it.
 
Fusion Flare said:
hey everyone! i've crawled out from my little grave, and i'll be stepping in for katy this time around, because i know you all missed me. don't lie to yourselves, you know you did.

sincere much-deservedflattery aside, its voting time!

checks:
:corviknight:by HydreigonTheChild
:tapu koko:by TailGlowVM
:quagsire:by AM
:scizor: by SLDR
:buzzwole: by agslash23
:melmetal: by ViZar (even though you didnt write out your reservation, melmetal always eats a +2 knock off no matter what so i just went for check)
:conkeldurr: by avg
counters:
:toxapex:by Dr Ya Yeet
:skarmory:by JTD783
:tapu fini: by Tysonslayer
:incineroar: by @wingdingsss (also didnt fill out reservation but incineroar sits on weav all day so ill just do this ig)

2 checks, 2 counters people.
get to it.
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Welcome back Fusion Flare! I'll let you know that Tysonslayer listed its Tapu Fini as a check, not a counter. IDK if this was intentional or not, just wanted to notify you about it in case you missed it.

I said it also because these would be my picks:
Checks :melmetal: :tapu fini:
Counters :skarmory: :toxapex:
 
Checks :buzzwole: :conkeldurr:
Counters :skarmory: :incineroar:

For me Buzzwole resisting every attack, even +3 with Swords Dance boost, and giving easy OHKO with both Close Combat or Leech Life, makes him the perfect check. Both Skarmory and Incineroar can resist every attack Weavile can land vs them and OHKO him with Body Press or Flare Blitz, respectively.
 
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Hello everyone, we back in business!
The Winners of the Victim Of The Week are:
Buzzwole by agslash23
Melmetal by ViZar

Skarmory by JTD783
Tapu Fini by Tysonslayer

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Since 3 Pokemon received 2 votes I had to pick, this is the outcome!

Now up to the next Victim for the Week 24
:ss/victini:
Victini @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Victory Star
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- V-create
- Bolt Strike
- Glaciate / Scorching Sands
- U-turn​

Victini cemented itself as on of the uprising stars in the current SSOU Metagame, with its great coverage options and its hard hitting STAB in V-create. Victini also fits well on bulky offensive team versions with a numerous of teampartners such as Landorus-T, Corviknight, Tapu Koko and Weavile, with being able to U-turn out of unfavorable matchups into them. Victinis coverage choices are great and menacing, as they can torn apart common Pokemon in the tier. Bolt Strike hits very hard -- especially with the help of Tapu Kokos terrain -- Glaciate can dismantle Garchomp and Landorus-T, Scorching Sands hits Heatran and is a alternative option. What are Pokemon, which can help versus Victini? What can stop the Victory of this Star?

Deadline for submissions will end on Sunday, the 8th of August! Have fun submitting Checks and Counters! :blobwizard: ​
 
:ss/toxapex:
Toxapex @ Black Sludge
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 128 Def / 128 SpD
Bold Nature
- Knock Off / Scald
- Recover
- Haze
- Toxic / Toxic Spikes

Can switch into any of its moves and punish it with Knock Off / Toxic / Scald and just make Victini unable to make much progress unless you get paralysed from Bolt Strike and can't recover.

252 Atk Victini Bolt Strike vs. 252 HP / 128+ Def Toxapex: 136-162 (44.7 - 53.2%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery

O.4% is less than a crit chance so it's very unlikely to happen.
 
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:ss/slowbro:
Slowbro @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
IVs: 0 Spe
Relaxed Nature
- Scald
- Future Sight
- Slack Off
- Teleport

Slowbro counters Victini by avoiding the 2HKO from Bolt Strike, so you can just switch in, spam Slack Off until it misses a Bolt Strike (or runs out of PP), then 2HKO with Scald, and if it clicks U-turn you just switch out and let Regenerator heal off the damage:

252 Atk Victini Bolt Strike vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Slowbro: 160-190 (40.6 - 48.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Victini U-turn vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Slowbro: 88-104 (22.3 - 26.3%) -- 10.1% chance to 4HKO
0 SpA Slowbro Scald vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Victini: 174-206 (51 - 60.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

You need Heavy-Duty Boots to always avoid the 2HKO, but if you can guarantee no Stealth Rock, then Rocky Helmet is fine too.
 
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Reserving Rotom-H

:ss/Rotom-Heat:

Rotom-Heat @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 248 HP / 168 SpD / 92 Spe
Calm Nature
- Volt Switch
- Overheat
- Toxic/Nasty Plot
- Pain Split

252 Atk Victini V-create vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Rotom-Heat: 115-136 (37.9 - 44.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Rotom-H is once again in the shadow of Rotom-W (thanks to Lando, Heatran, Garchomp etc..) after an initial period of SS OU glory. However, Rotom-H can still check certain threats better like Victini.

Rotom-H easily avoids 2HKO from Victini, and can use the chip damage it incurs during switchin to Pain Split, draining away Victini's HP while regaining its own HP back. After that, it uses Victini as Toxic or NP fodder, forcing Victini out. All these make Rotom-H a counter to Victini
 
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Spoiler - I am not aware on how outdated this set is, if at all, I just mostly copy pasted from the analysis lol.
:ss/Kommo-o:
Kommo-o @ Leftovers
Ability: Bulletproof
EVs: 252 HP / 148 Def / 40 SpD / 68 Spe
Impish Nature
- Body Press
- Earthquake/Toxic
- Stealth Rock
- Rest

Pretty straightforward, resists V-Create, Bolt Strike, and although Glaciate is super effective, it really doesn't do much at all.


252 Atk Victini V-create vs. 252 HP / 148+ Def Kommo-o: 81-96 (22.8 - 27.1%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery

4- SpA Victini Glaciate vs. 252 HP / 40 SpD Kommo-o: 78-94 (22 - 26.5%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery


0 Atk Kommo-o Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Victini: 158-186 (46.3 - 54.5%) -- 53.9% chance to 2HKO

0 Atk Kommo-o Earthquake vs. -1 0 HP / 0 Def Victini: 234-276 (68.6 - 80.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

I think this is a COUNTER
 
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:ss/urshifu-rapid-strike:

Urshifu-Rapid-Strike @ Choice Band
Ability: Unseen Fist
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Surging Strikes
- Close Combat
- Aqua Jet
- U-turn

Urshifu-R acts as a check against Victini while you don’t want to switch into Bolt Strike you can come into V-Create and live letting you force it out. With this gives you free opportunity to forge it out and can remove it with Surging Strikes or be able to give yourself momentum into expected switch-in with U-Turn to put yourself into a favorable position.
 
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reserving quagsire

Quagsire @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Relaxed Nature
- Scald
- Earthquake
- Recover
- Toxic

quagsire is a check to victini- absorbs bolt strike and only takes 24% - 29% from v-create. can get slightly hindered long term with other offensive mons in the back but can keep a consistent defense of some sort
 
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Rhyperior @ Leftovers
Ability: Solid Rock
EVs: 244 HP / 72 Atk / 128 SpD / 64 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Swords Dance/Toxic
- Rock Blast/Heat Crash/Toxic​

Thanks to solid typing, Rhyperior naturally resists/is immune to 3/4 of Victini's standard moves, with V-Create being the most powerful:

252 Atk Victini V-create vs. 244 HP / 0 Def Rhyperior: 97-115 (22.4 - 26.6%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery

The only move Rhyperior fears is Scorching Sands, but only for the burn chance, not the damage, which is still weaker than V-Create, thanks to Solid Rock (and some SpDef investment). For Victini's part, it has to pray to get the burn on a switch-in, since it otherwise cannot stay in the next turn:

72+ Atk Rhyperior Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Victini: 336-396 (98.5 - 116.1%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

When the Victini does switch, the speed allows Rhyperior to outspeed certain Melmetal variants, as well as outspeed what the standard spread allows for (e.g. Hippowdown). Rock Blast punishes most Flying switch-ins (especially in conjunction with SD), but Lando-T is still a problem, and Toxic may be desired. Heat Crash at +2 destroys Ferrothorn and at +4 obliterates Corviknight.

Of course, you can always set up rocks as the Victini switches, forcing a Defog later on, so Rhyperior possesses multiple options for punishing the Victini for having the temerity to enter the field. Since Scorching Sands is an optional part of the kit, and only somewhat hampers your effectiveness at killing Victini in a 1v1 (especially with SD), I consider this to be a counter.
 
Gastrodon @ Leftovers
Ability: Sticky Hold
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Scald
- Toxic

252 Atk Victini V-create vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Gastrodon: 112-132 (26.2 - 30.9%) -- 10.8% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

4- SpA Victini Glaciate vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Gastrodon: 51-60 (11.9 - 14%) -- possibly the worst move ever

Victini Bolt Strike vs. Gastrodon: 0-0 (0 - 0%) -- possibly the worst move ever

Possible damage amounts: (0)

4- SpA Victini Scorching Sands vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Gastrodon: 54-64 (12.6 - 15%) -- possibly the worst move ever

252 Atk Victini U-turn vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Gastrodon: 59-70 (13.8 - 16.4%) -- possibly the worst move ever

counter.
 
Hippowdon @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 8 Atk / 248 SpD
Careful Nature
- Earthquake
- Slack Off
- Stealth Rock
- Toxic
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Hippowdon easily acts as a check of special attackers such us Victini, receiving low damage from Glaciate and U-turn, and being inmune to Bolt Strike. It can recover HP with Slack Off, only suffering several damage from V-Create. You only have to wait it to fail, while using Slack Off and take advantage from the loose of Speed, Defense and Sp. Def. Not only with Earthquake, but also with Toxic can cripple Victini. In this case, chip damage from Stealth Rock would not affect Victini, unless we add to the team some Knock Off support.

8 Atk Hippowdon Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Victini: 240-284 (70.3 - 83.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Victini V-create vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Hippowdon: 213-252 (50.7 - 60%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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:ss/Dragapult:
Dragapult @ Choice Specs
Ability: Infiltrator
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Shadow Ball
- Draco Meteor
- U-turn
- Coverage of choice

CHECK
It outspeeds and kills vict with sb, or can predict the switch and u turn or somethin. If needed it can come in on it too, but only once. It never dies to glaciate on the switch into V-Create, max roll is for around 98

252 SpA Choice Specs Dragapult Shadow Ball vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Victini: 326-386 (95.6 - 113.1%) -- 75% chance to OHKO

4- SpA Victini Glaciate vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Dragapult: 108-128 (34 - 40.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252 Atk Victini V-create vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Dragapult: 156-183 (49.2 - 57.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Have an amazing day :blobwizard:
 
:ss/rotom-wash:
Rotom-Wash @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 168 SpD / 88 Spe
Calm Nature
- Volt Switch
- Hydro Pump
- Thunder Wave / Will-O-Wisp
- Pain Split

Rotom-W is a check. Even with no EVs in Defense, it avoids the 2HKO from all of Victini's attacks at full health, giving it opportunities to switch in. From there, it can threaten a KO with Hydro Pump, pivot out with Volt Switch, or attempt to status Victini or whatever switches in.

However, it does have to be careful around U-turn, since the chip damage allows V-Create and Bolt Strike to 2HKO (assuming the damage rolls are in Victini's favor). Pain Split does help, but it's not the most consistent form of recovery.

:rotom-wash:
0 SpA Rotom-Wash Volt Switch vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Victini: 79-94 (23.1 - 27.5%) -- 72% chance to 4HKO
0 SpA Rotom-Wash Volt Switch vs. -1 0 HP / 0 SpD Victini: 118-141 (34.6 - 41.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
0 SpA Rotom-Wash Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Victini: 248-294 (72.7 - 86.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
0 SpA Rotom-Wash Hydro Pump vs. -1 0 HP / 0 SpD Victini: 372-438 (109 - 128.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

:victini:
252 Atk Victini V-create vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Rotom-Wash: 115-136 (37.8 - 44.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Victini Bolt Strike vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Rotom-Wash: 112-132 (36.8 - 43.4%) -- 99.1% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
4- SpA Victini Glaciate vs. 252 HP / 168+ SpD Rotom-Wash: 16-19 (5.2 - 6.2%) -- possibly the worst move ever
252 Atk Victini U-turn vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Rotom-Wash: 61-72 (20 - 23.6%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery
 
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:ss/heatran:
Heatran @ Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Magma Storm
- Earth Power
- Taunt
- Toxic

Heatran is one of the most common Victini checks around. Bulky Heatran doesn't take too much from Bolt Strike or even Scorching Sands and poses a threat to both Victini and the teams it tends to find itself on.

252 Atk Victini Bolt Strike vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Heatran: 113-133 (29.2 - 34.4%) -- 99.9% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
4- SpA Victini Scorching Sands vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Heatran: 128-152 (33.1 - 39.3%) -- 8.1% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
4 SpA Victini Scorching Sands vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Heatran: 140-168 (36.2 - 43.5%) -- 97.3% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

0 SpA Heatran Earth Power vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Victini: 162-192 (47.5 - 56.3%) -- 82.4% chance to 2HKO
 
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