Pokemon Legends - Arceus - 28th Jan 2022 *Official Content Only*

The association with ghost for pokemon seems to be purple-blues, mostly as those are popular colors that evil spirits in japan have. White only seems to appear if another thing is being reference (corsola/cursolas bleached coral, litwicks candle color, froslass ice kimono, and bracephalon with the whole clown thing).

I don't think there's anything confirming or denying an ice type, but I think it's more likely than ghost. If it's a zorua like people are saying, the dark type could explain the somber tone
 
Well one thing is clear after watching this...
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I guess this is a fun way to tease a new Pokemon. Going by the Sirfetch'd reveal, we hopefully won't have to wait more than a week to get the full reveal, although given that they didn't show even a blurred/corrupted image, it would be more fun if they show one or two more teases with more glimpses (as long as it doesn't get dragged out more than a week or so). Curious if the other language reveals add any other descriptors of the mon.

From the description, it sounds canid, so I would be surprised if it's the remaining mon from the original leak. I like the suggestion of Hisuian Zorua/Zoroark (or alt evolution). The Blair-Witch-vibe and snowy region make me think of the X-Men character Wendigo... which varies a bit from the source material for the Windigo/Wendigo, and I doubt this mythological character would be the direct inspiration, but maybe there is a similar yokai out there somewhere... which lead me down a brief googling rabbit hole that brought up this page about Wolf gods in Japan, which stood out because it mentions the Ainu people specifically, which have been hypothesized to be a potential (and potentially controversial) basis of some of the northern people in the region. No idea how factually accurate that page is, but the wolf statutes look like such a mon could be a nice counterpart to a shisa-based Arcanine.

I'm also surprised people keep guessing Hisuian variants of Sinnoh mons... particularly those that have already been shown. :P Like, sure, we haven't seen glameow/purugly yet that I can recall, so maaaaybe they will go with it being a cat and say there was a Husian breed a la Meowth variants, but (edit: I forgot, we have seen purugly getting sliced and diced by a gliscor) shinx and snorunt's whole lines have been shown, I really doubt they are getting ye olde regional variants in the same region with their regular forms. :)
 
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RocketSurgery said:
Curious if the other language reveals add any other descriptors of the mon.
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I've checked the Portuguese trailer, and while it does have a little bit of additional info on the trailer, it's not on the new mon, just makes it clearer what the guy was describing about the Snorunt:

"You see, Snorunt feed on snow and ice to survive. Look at those jumps, so energetic even though its so cold here!"
 
Based on the description it seems like a small canid, so personally I'm putting my money on it being Zorua (seemingly the common opinion). It's specified as having "white fur on top of its head and around its neck," and Zorua has both a tuft of fur on its head and a "collar" of fur around its neck that can be changed to white.
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On the other hand the tip of Zorua's tail isn't a different color from the rest of the tail, and the "round and yellow eyes" fits but isn't very specific. There are other options like Houndour, Lillipup, Yamper, Rockruff, and Nickit, but I don't think any of them fit the description as well as Zorua does.
 
Something I think most people have missed too - The guy mentions it's 7 PM at the start of the recording. This points to this Pokémon being nocturnal.



Personally I am split between Zorua (For reasons the thread already stated) and Rockruff. Rockruff is another small canine mon with distinct neck fur, large round and a long tail. It could gain the head fur and the tipped tail in this different form.

Shoutouts to Memes Bita on the Pet Mods discord for this next bit, but the Yellow eye is also a bit interesting: Lycanrocs have Blure, Red and Green eyes. A Lycanroc with Yellow eyes would be the final one to match the Gen 1 Games colours.

Lastly the fact time is specified could be related to Rockruff's time-based evolutions.

plus it would be funny to get Lycanrock-Dawn in the gen where there's a protagonist named Dawn
 
Saw some people on Twitter say that it could also be a Hisuian Litleo/Pyroar and that also makes sense to me, as it also fits the general description given and is also a Fire type (which would have explained why researcher guy mistook it for Growlithe and Vulpix, two other quadrupedal Fire types)

R_N said:
I can't believe the two pokemon are Hisui Goodra & Klefki
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ngl Hisuian Goodra would slap
 
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Litleo is trash. I wouldn't say it's like that generic mon you get at the beginning of the game, like Sentret or Zigzagoon, because Sentret and Zigzagoon have lots of charisma. Litleo, and Pyroar by extension, is one of those shitty mons that brought Gen VI that means nothing. Less than nothing. It's one of those mons that you'd never remember even if someone told you "ey, say the first 100 Pokémon you can think of". 100, 200 or 300. It's that Pokémon whose name you'll never remember in Pokémon Quiz when filling the names of the 5 Pokémon that XY added. Generic, but generic in a bad sense, not generic as in Zigzagoon or Bidoof.

I recognize that not every mon that gets attention needs to be Tyranitar, Garchomp, Metagross, Salamence, Zapdos, Charizard or Lucario. That's why some ordinary mons like Ampharos, Absol, Altaria, Audio, etc, also got some random love. But you remember Ampharos. You remember Mareep. You remember Absol and the route in which it appeared for the first time. No one remembers Litleo until someone mentions Litleo, because Litleo is trash of the worst kind. Generic trash.

I sincerely hope they don't waste 1 slot in an interesting hisuian form with Litleo. Much preffer Zorua, and I don't mind if Zoroark is already Gen V Luke. It's still more interesting of a mon.
 
Lemingue said:
I want more ice types, don't get me wrong, especially as early as possible, but I feel like having so many regional variants turn into ice types just gets boring after a while. I want new ice type pokemon!!!
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This.

One of the side effects (or reasons? It's a bit of a chicken-and-egg situation) of so many regional forms being Ice-types is that very few actually new Ice-type families are created. For instance, Alola technically gave us five new Ice-types, but four of them were regional forms, leaving only Crabominable as a new native Ice-type. I mean, regional forms aren't outright bad per se, but entirely new designs are preferable. It wouldn't hurt to see more Ice-types, although the odds of getting any available early are once again small. No existing Ice-types are that suitable for being placed in the early-game (Swinub has worse stats than Rattata, true, but it doesn't evolve until level 33), and the game doesn't seem likely to create entirely new evolutionary families to fit the role.
 
Zoroark got a movie and was featured on Gladion's team but that's about it. More attention than most Pokemon but not comparable to the juggernauts like Charizard and co. So I wouldn't really mind a regional Zoroark, especially because there's a lot more potential with it in terms of design than Pyroar. Assuming it's Fire/Ice what could you even you even do with Pyroar to make it interesting with that type combo?
 
Hoo boy. Somehow I wasn't getting updates on this thread, so I have a few things I'd like to address at once.

StarFalcon555 said:
Saw some people on Twitter say that it could also be a Hisuian Litleo/Pyroar and that also makes sense to me, as it also fits the general description given and is also a Fire type (which would have explained why researcher guy mistook it for Growlithe and Vulpix, two other quadrupedal Fire types)
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I'm skeptical about this. Whatever type our mystery monster is, it took out our researcher in pitch darkness. That means it did so without producing any light, as by fire or electricity. More likely is that our man simply saw a white-and-red quadruped standing at a height of 2'0''-2'4'', and it's coincidence that most known monsters of that description are Fire-types.

On that note, he really makes the monster sound like Shiny Torracat, but I think we can all agree it's preposterous for TPC to base a trailer on that.

I think it's reasonable to rule Fire out.

AquaticPanic said:
Personally I am split between Zorua (For reasons the thread already stated) and Rockruff. Rockruff is another small canine mon with distinct neck fur, large round and a long tail. It could gain the head fur and the tipped tail in this different form.

Shoutouts to Memes Bita on the Pet Mods discord for this next bit, but the Yellow eye is also a bit interesting: Lycanrocs have Blure, Red and Green eyes. A Lycanroc with Yellow eyes would be the final one to match the Gen 1 Games colours.

Lastly the fact time is specified could be related to Rockruff's time-based evolutions.
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We've had two successive generations of multi-form wolves now, and I'm not confident we'll see that trend continue. I should hope they got it out of their systems with Zacian and Zamazenta. I'm also one to argue Lycanroc's form differences are the most pointlessly convoluted in the series—to the point where I'm baffled they didn't go the route of Espeon and Umbreon, and I hate those guys—but that's neither here nor there. This is all to say that if it turns out to be yet a fourth spin on Lycanroc, I am going to lose my marbles.

Sirya said:
Litleo is trash. I wouldn't say it's like that generic mon you get at the beginning of the game, like Sentret or Zigzagoon, because Sentret and Zigzagoon have lots of charisma. Litleo, and Pyroar by extension, is one of those shitty mons that brought Gen VI that means nothing. Less than nothing... No one remembers Litleo until someone mentions Litleo, because Litleo is trash of the worst kind. Generic trash.
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Do NOT use that tone of voice with me, mister. Normal & Fire are my bread and butter, and Pyroar scratches my itch for both.
 
Sirya said:
I sincerely hope they don't waste 1 slot in an interesting hisuian form with Litleo. Much preffer Zorua, and I don't mind if Zoroark is already Gen V Luke. It's still more interesting of a mon.
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Isn't that one of the points of regional forms? To breathe new life into dull mons? Zorua and Zoroark are already popular and mechanically interesting. They don't need any help (and I don't know how you would make it more interesting than Illusion anyway, so there's a good chance it would be a disappointment). Hisuian Pyroar would be a chance for Pyroar to actually do something.
 
While I would like more with Lycanroc*, this seems like a bad fit. The description is VERY different from Rockruff, so it would have to be a regional variant, and that would make things needlessly more complex.

It sounds like Zorua, but I agree with DrPumpkinz, any regional form would just be a downgrade of a very unique mon.

Dogs/Cats/Foxes that are possible but haven't been discussed much
Yamper: The base form fits, and there's plenty of type combos that could produce that color scheme, but Boltund being what kills the guy, and it being a Gen VIII mon, doesn't seem likely.
Poochyena: The evo still doesn't fit. He also specifically mentions a tail, which is non-prominent on this mon. That said, this line has been due for a rework for a while, so I wouldn't rule it out.
Furfrou: Wouldn't even need a regional variant, just a new haircut. That said, it would be something unrelated that kills the guy at the end. Possible only because it fits TPC being trolls.
Lillipup: Maybe? Regional Stoutland crushing someone makes sense, at least. I can't think of an argument against it, but that doesn't make it likely.
Nickit: Doubtful. Again, it's Gen VIII, and the end of the vid is a stretch.
Skitty: Seems like a good fit, honestly. Design works. Again, the evo doesn't make sense.
Glameow: Gen IV mon getting a regional wouldn't make a lot of sense. And the evo being murderous is odd. Unlikely.
Purrloin: Design is possible, but a stretch, and Liepard is not a murderous beast.
Litleo: I could see it. I'm not sure what typing they'd do, but there's ways to make it work.
Shinx: Same as everything else, possible, but the evo is a stretch.
Meowth: Please god not more attention to this thing. Also, it doesn't fit at all. It's definitely Meowth.
Absol: ...They'd have to give it a pre-evo, but this makes a bunch of sense. It's out there, but I could see a pre-evo and then Mama Bad Luck murdering someone with a cave-in

Animal mons I ignored for being not an option or a bad fit: Eelektrike, Eevee, Snubbull, Houndour, Riolu, Smeargle, Legendary Beasts, Espurr, plenty of other legends/starters/etc.

So my thoughts? Safest bet is that this is a Perrserker situation, the base form is something we recognize, the evolution is completely different. Or that the mon described in the beginning and what kills the guy are unrelated. The evolved forms of too many of the possibilities just don't work for this. If it IS an existing pair, I'd say Lillipup/Stoutland or Litleo/Pyroar are the reasonable options. Outside chance of Poochyena.

Of course, I did all this, so it's going to end up being a regional Nidoran variant or something.

*Just make a dawn form, then make it's evolution purely time based, eliminating the Event-only gimmick for Dusk

Edit: Fun fact, wrapping : : around a pokemon's name inserts the sprite even if you have a line break between them, and it eliminates the line break. I did not know that.
 
Sirya said:
Litleo is trash. I wouldn't say it's like that generic mon you get at the beginning of the game, like Sentret or Zigzagoon, because Sentret and Zigzagoon have lots of charisma. Litleo, and Pyroar by extension, is one of those shitty mons that brought Gen VI that means nothing. Less than nothing. It's one of those mons that you'd never remember even if someone told you "ey, say the first 100 Pokémon you can think of". 100, 200 or 300. It's that Pokémon whose name you'll never remember in Pokémon Quiz when filling the names of the 5 Pokémon that XY added. Generic, but generic in a bad sense, not generic as in Zigzagoon or Bidoof.

I recognize that not every mon that gets attention needs to be Tyranitar, Garchomp, Metagross, Salamence, Zapdos, Charizard or Lucario. That's why some ordinary mons like Ampharos, Absol, Altaria, Audio, etc, also got some random love. But you remember Ampharos. You remember Mareep. You remember Absol and the route in which it appeared for the first time. No one remembers Litleo until someone mentions Litleo, because Litleo is trash of the worst kind. Generic trash.

I sincerely hope they don't waste 1 slot in an interesting hisuian form with Litleo. Much preffer Zorua, and I don't mind if Zoroark is already Gen V Luke. It's still more interesting of a mon.
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Yeah, only easly recognizable fan favourite Pokémon like Basculin get regional formes, after all.
You know, the kind of Pokémon everyone remember.
It was the fish with a horn, right?
 
KaenSoul said:
Yeah, only easly recognizable fan favourite Pokémon like Basculin get regional formes, after all.
You know, the kind of Pokémon everyone remember.
It was the fish with a horn, right?
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No, it was the fish that was actually two fish. No, not that one.

Edit: Might as well put something of substance and my own thoughts on this new mon/form. I'm guessing typewise it'll be a Ghost, Dark, or Ice type or some combination of them judging how it's in a snowy area and the general horror lost footage vibes they announced it with. My bet is either pure Ghost or Ghost/Ice.
 
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