"only other town protect" is reducing it to two. Unless you don't think Caff is a doc, you're obviously a town protect, there has to be three for last night to have happened.
Sounds like you excluded yourself from town protects.
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Sounds like you excluded yourself from town protects.
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i meant that the doc claim could've been town based on what i knew in the past so there was no reason to cc
how did you think I was angling it?
Texas Cloverleaf Who did you target last night?
eh there's not really a point if you don't want to listen to what i have to say anyway
im still not sure how any of the events point to me as conf scum cuz i feel like i've addressed them regardless
Nono, I'm interested
everything is interesting to you, but you clearly aren't reading my posts
i would rather not say
Okay.
Might ask again later once more stuff has happened... though I imagine that once you think it's a good time to reveal you will so eh.
I've responded to your posts. If you want a response to the wall, I'm not talking about the same time period you are and that's p clear. For your claim to make sense, there must be 2 roleblockers. It's technically possible the other one has fired on roles every night that weren't alerted that they were blocked, that much is true, but that's a huge hypothetical. It's much more logical and likely that you're the only roleblocker.
hi guys this is getting really juicy! as a serial misvoter, i will be placing my vote on ryo as to not break my streak of incorrectly voting for townies
studying for my quiz tn but
if i'm the only rb doesn't this give me a bit more credence lol. it's also possible that the kill was disrupted in some other way. we still literally don't know for sure so i'm not sure why you're pressed on it!! there being 3 deaths today and 0 on n3 makes me think something else is up since the others aren't really explained at all tbh
also it still doesn't explain why, scum me, with some of the largest towncred at that time, decides to target dyo as a nk who was clearly being ran up as a second wagon. idt this has been addressed
if i'm the only rb doesn't this give me a bit more credence lol. it's also possible that the kill was disrupted in some other way. we still literally don't know for sure so i'm not sure why you're pressed on it!! there being 3 deaths today and 0 on n3 makes me think something else is up since the others aren't really explained at all tbh
also it still doesn't explain why, scum me, with some of the largest towncred at that time, decides to target dyo as a nk who was clearly being ran up as a second wagon. idt this has been addressed
ftr my role was psy. my ability allowed me to target two people, and those two could not target each other. i could target myself (but not consecutively) and i couldnt block myself
n1 i targeted hal/apricity and celever and that was the same night i was wiped so i never got to use it again
out of curiousity, who was wiped last night?
n1 i targeted hal/apricity and celever and that was the same night i was wiped so i never got to use it again
out of curiousity, who was wiped last night?
Hmph ok
I mean, there's the other roleblocker. It's nerfed, but is def a town role.
All I'm thinking now is the far-out that Ryo is role wiper and gets the roles of the people he wiped. N2 wipe target never claimed; I thought it was Ayia, but it could have been Haruno.
Still don't think that explains my action not going through, after all Psypsypsypsypsythe you were unable to target the same person twice right? (I.E. to block a self-targeting ability), but seeing a disruptive role made me remember that N2 wipe was still an open thread.
I mean, there's the other roleblocker. It's nerfed, but is def a town role.
All I'm thinking now is the far-out that Ryo is role wiper and gets the roles of the people he wiped. N2 wipe target never claimed; I thought it was Ayia, but it could have been Haruno.
Still don't think that explains my action not going through, after all Psypsypsypsypsythe you were unable to target the same person twice right? (I.E. to block a self-targeting ability), but seeing a disruptive role made me remember that N2 wipe was still an open thread.
Okay I'm trying to think of things mechanically and here's where I'm at.
From N2 interactions, we can assume that one of Celever/DLE/Drookez is a Strongman. DLE is a neigbourizer and I doubt they have both this ability and a strongman. That said, DLE could theoretically be scum Neighbourizer. I don't know. No idea how flavour would even work those two together. If anyone here spec'd Bigvivor then lmk.
We know that Clouds could double post N3. This means that Drookez motivator claim on N2 holds. If Drookez really is a JOAT, even a mafia JOAT with 1S*-Strongman, then they shouldn't be able to use both on one night.
Given that Celever has (to my knowledge) idled N1, 2, & 3 and was supposedly blocked N4, we have 0 confirmation that this claim is true. Given this with the above reasoning, Celever is mechanically likely to be a strongman. Even nights if I had to guess.
An issue arises with the fact that Celever is still alive. If Clouds and Celever were cupid targets, then something must have happened to stop Celever from dying. I propose two theories:
shadowpea Please confirm with Dusk whether Clouds and Dyo are still lovers in your role PM with Dusk.
From N2 interactions, we can assume that one of Celever/DLE/Drookez is a Strongman. DLE is a neigbourizer and I doubt they have both this ability and a strongman. That said, DLE could theoretically be scum Neighbourizer. I don't know. No idea how flavour would even work those two together. If anyone here spec'd Bigvivor then lmk.
We know that Clouds could double post N3. This means that Drookez motivator claim on N2 holds. If Drookez really is a JOAT, even a mafia JOAT with 1S*-Strongman, then they shouldn't be able to use both on one night.
Given that Celever has (to my knowledge) idled N1, 2, & 3 and was supposedly blocked N4, we have 0 confirmation that this claim is true. Given this with the above reasoning, Celever is mechanically likely to be a strongman. Even nights if I had to guess.
An issue arises with the fact that Celever is still alive. If Clouds and Celever were cupid targets, then something must have happened to stop Celever from dying. I propose two theories:
- Nuxl isn't lying about their JK and roleblocking Clouds negated the lovers clause through some weird semantics.
- Mafia has a doctor and they used it on Celever so they could kill Clouds without having to worry about the loss of a teammate.
shadowpea Please confirm with Dusk whether Clouds and Dyo are still lovers in your role PM with Dusk.
Oh... oh this is strange.
what does this mean
nothing important.
Caff and I weren't told the wording of what happened i.e. that one kills another. We were told that if one of us dies while we're buddied, the other will too.
Makes no sense that I would get docced by a scumbud if I were scum, because the wording we were given doesn't imply it was defendable against. Usually protection doesn't work on lovers.
Assuming it was exactly identical to the flipped alimdia (Haruno) role, it would attempt to redirect B to both A and C. According to op mechanics double redirect = block, therefore anything targetting B is blocked. A and C would redirect to B like normal.
Why does something targeting person B get blocked but not if it targets person C?
I'm guessing I should swap the letters A and B in this explanation since that would make sense.
maybe? i think itd be funny if we actually ended up voting ryo but id say that the inconsistency of clearing nk targets (not wiping hal but wiping haruno) makes this slightly strange to me. especially since what is the benefit of confirming texas with harunos role if ryo is scum who knows texas is town?