Unpopular opinions

So call me on this one because I don't think it's even strictly limited to Pokemon. I don't think, with regards to a Single Player game, that you need to purchase or play the game through to be able to make critical statements of it, especially in cases like Pokemon where the foundation and systems are built on something extremely familiar (due to emulating other games or being iterative sequels to entries one has played). I'll be contextualizing this through Pokemon but know that I hold this position for a lot of other franchises as well when they receive new entries.

A lot of time whenever I see criticism of a Pokemon game come up with significant frequency, responses that happen a decent amount include "if you don't like it, just don't buy it" as well as "you haven't even played it/it's not even out yet". The former gives the impression that even if your criticisms are true, then the extent of your action should be to abstain from purchase rather than voice your criticism, while the latter disregards exposure through marketing, content creators, or even comparison to something known. I also notice this tends to happen when the criticism is negative, but it's much less common to see people advising other randoms on the internet to reign in their hype if they start expecting the moon, despite precedent that that can be equally troublesome for a game's reception in some ways.

I think if anything this is damaging to the brand, because disregarding or minimizing issues reduces the concern or motivation to address them, whether or not they need to be "fixed" or simply noted and responded to. The performance issues in Gen 6 were given some pass because it was the main team's first outing with 3D on the 3DS, but we're now on the 2nd Switch Gen as the earliest to see those performance issues ironed out (considering Pokemon's visuals should not be so consistently taxing). Dexit was a PR nightmare where either side of the aisle was moreso shouting at the other than considering or responding to points made (valid or invalid) about what was always going to be a dicey topic. I also feel painting that criticism as unreasonable didn't help with getting any kind of response or address to it, and one way or another, I find it looks a bit silly for both parties since close to 90% of the Dex is in SwSh as of the DLC updates almost to the degree of being a selling point for them, as several predictions went even before the base games were out.

I think an important reality is that Pokemon fans want to play the games and have a good time, whether amongst themselves or with friends, but that doesn't mean the games provide that to them simply by existing and being purchased. If players observe issues with new Pokemon titles, they don't necessarily have to buy into it, but their criticism is still worth considering in those cases because they are still consumers who were turned away by changes and may want to come back if things improve. I don't buy/accept the "Pokemon is a Kids IP" justification with regards to adult player criticism, because the existence of events like VGC, spin-offs like Unite and Masters, Multimedia like the Card Game, and a swathe of nostalgic references across all of them seem very much designed to keep some Adult audience on-board alongside other media making their income off the younger demographic.


Sorry to bring a competitive question to a non-competitive thread. But this thread is about Unpopular Opnions. And my opnion seems to be very unpopular among users of this forum.
It's less the unpopularity of opinion and more that your posts have kind of haphazardly popped up in several places rather than simply asking in one place "where can I ask about/play games in a certain manner?"
 
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You seem lacking some pretty critical information about the games I'm afraid.
I just play pokémon games untill the 4th generation, Sword and Shield still a mystery for me. I remember my nephew said to me in the modern generation there isn't all pokémon, but I don't have idea who is missing and who is in the game.
But you don't need to be afraid, I know I'm a bug/ghost pokémon, the most scary combination possible, but don't need to be scary.


The format you'd be looking for is National Dex AG
Ohh that's works, thank you, and my test team win it's first battle. https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8nationaldexag-1651153310
Now I need to figure out who is the best team for this tier.

It’s been stated to you multiple times that gen 3 Anything Goes exists, but only when challenging other users because barely anybody plays it.

I search for this gen 3 Anything Goes and can't find. (I search in the menu of challeng of other user and still not found)

It's less the unpopularity of opinion and more that your posts have kind of haphazardly popped up in several places rather than simply asking in one place "where can I ask about/play games in a certain manner?"

Sorry to annoying you, I guess I already found the solution to my issue (I will just play National Dex AG) and don't will bother more you with this issue.
 
I search for this gen 3 Anything Goes and can't find. (I search in the menu of challeng of other user and still not found)
To give you a bit more info, the main issue with "old formats" is that noone really plays them.

Since showdown is still a software, keeping things implemented and functional does require effort from the people that work on the code. For somewhat obvious reasons, if a feature isn't played enough, it doesnt get supported / gets abandoned eventually.
That may be why you cannot find certain specific modes.

Also, there is nothing wrong in asking. It's just the way of asking that's kind of wrong. Spamming the same question everywhere with general remarks doesn't exactly put one in good light :>
 
Garchomp is useless in gen 8 OU.

U turn should be nerfed to 60 BP. Scizor need a good technician boosted bug move.

No endless battle clause are stupid. It's impossible to have an endless battle
 
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Like how tho?

Ur PP gonna stall at the end no matter how.

Harvest+Leppa Berry+healing move has been a thing for generations now.

In Gen III, any two weak Pokemon with Leftovers will fail to do enough Struggle damage to outpace the Leftovers recovery, because Struggle didn't deal 25% recoil at that point. I've ended up trapped in several endless battles in Emerald's Frontier with mons like Cradily, Wobbuffet, and Blissey (in the Factory, mainly).
 
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Bug bite is useless compared to U turn even after the technician boost. Scizor niche is as a balanced pivot for which it needs U turn.
Yeah, and it does that job amazingly even with a 70-power U-turn. Bug Bite may not be used often, but it does get used, and it being much stronger than U-turn provides a more interesting tradeoff than if it was just the same move but it didn't switch.

Like how tho?

Ur PP gonna stall at the end no matter how.
It seems I was being too subtle by just posting a picture of Slowbro.

:bw/slowbro:
Slowbro @ Leppa Berry
- Block
- Slack Off
- Recycle
- Heal Pulse

This is Funbro. If it ever traps something that can't 2HKO it, your only option is to forfeit, because the battle's never going to end otherwise. Slack Off + infinite Leppa Berry makes sure it'll never die, and Heal Pulse + infinite Leppa Berry makes sure its victim never will either.
 
Scizor can learn Silver Wind via breeding and it is a powerfull move, it can boost all stats.
Silver Wind is a special move. It's practically useless on Scizor.
I used to have a stall team and the battle never finish due this rule. How many turns to a battle end due this clause?
Weren't you the one saying that you'd "love to play without rules" :psysly:

The battle is infinite. Your only option if you're on the receiving end is to forfeit, or to stay in the game until the other player gets bored.

For reference, so far the longest smogon battle has been on the range of over 1k turns. And that wasn't with any endless shenenigan, it was a legitimate OU tournament battle.
 
I used to have a stall team and the battle never finish due this rule. How many turns to a battle end due this clause?
Even if the battle lasts a loooong time, as long as PP is being consumed it doesn’t activate the clause. So your Blissey or something will eventually run out of Soft-Boiled PP. True endless battles, the ones that activate the clause, are only possible through specific things like that Slowbro set.

There is also a 1000 turn limit that will make the battle automatically a draw.
 
Silver Wind is a special move. It's practically useless on Scizor.
Ohhh I was thinking in my Scizor of the 3rd generation. But for late generations Scizor can have X scissor. Also a strong bug move and physical.

Weren't you the one saying that you'd "love to play without rules" :psysly:
Haha love is a bit to strong, I was just wonder how this game should be without rules, but I'm already playing National Dex AG and making some strategies ^^


For reference, so far the longest smogon battle has been on the range of over 1k turns. And that wasn't with any endless shenenigan, it was a legitimate OU tournament battle.
1k turns and the battle didn't finish due this clause? So this clause isn't working (what is god haha)
My longest battle took 148 turns and I already thought it is too much: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oumonotype-139440601
 
1k turns and the battle didn't finish due this clause? So this clause isn't working (what is god haha)
My longest battle took 148 turns and I already thought it is too much:
The clause kicks in when a battle is completely, utterly endless, like when a Slowbro traps its opponent and constantly Recycles Leppa Berries while using Slack Off to heal itself and Heal Pulse to heal the opponent. This was just a stall versus stall match that went on extremely long because both teams are extremely passive and had a lot of switching. That battle caused the 1000 turn limit to be implemented in addition to the Endless Battle Clause.
 
1k turns and the battle didn't finish due this clause? So this clause isn't working (what is god haha)
My longest battle took 148 turns and I already thought it is too much: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oumonotype-139440601
Thing is, there was no stalling at play, both players were one misplay from losing the match, and pride wouldnt let either of them give up.
If you're curious of that battle and why the 1k turn limit was implemented, here's a smol documentary from a smogoner much more culturate than me.

Was a good meme though.
 
Recycle+Harvest+Leppa Berry+healing move has been a thing for generations now.

In Gen III, any two weak Pokemon with Leftovers will fail to do enough Struggle damage to outpace the Leftovers recovery, because Struggle didn't deal 25% recoil at that point. I've ended up trapped in several endless battles in Emerald's Frontier with mons like Cradily, Wobbuffet, and Blissey (in the Factory, mainly).
Leppa Berry Recycle
Possibly combined with Block and Heal Pulse
whoa. Pokemon players are extremely creative lol.

Yeah, and it does that job amazingly even with a 70-power U-turn. Bug Bite may not be used often, but it does get used, and it being much stronger than U-turn provides a more interesting tradeoff than if it was just the same move but it didn't switch.

Bug bite is entirely useless compared to U-turn for Scizor. Scizor is mostly used as a balanced pivot. Actually U turn is poorly distributed among bug types. Only a few bug types can learn it and even fewer of them are physical attackers. Scizor is one of the few bug types in OU/UU that uses U turn so nerfing u-turn to 60 won't gonna affect other bug types.

But for late generations Scizor can have X scissor. Also a strong bug move and physical.


Technician Scizor does more damage from a 60 BP U turn than X scissor. Plus U turn Pivots.

Also why can't Scizor learn lunge or leech life?
 
whoa. Pokemon players are extremely creative lol.
Don't underestimate the ability of humans to be creative when their objective is to make someone else's life miserable.
That's something we're very good at since the dawn of time, and videogames aren't an exception.
Also why can't Scizor learn lunge or leech life?
Good question, ask GameFreaks.

That said, being based on mantises or on wasp mimicking mantispidaes, and specifically being one made of metal, these insects are not known to drink blood (so not learning Leech Life makes sense), nor to have actual stingers or point appendages to perform a lunge with.
Rather, they have claws and focus on cutting, which is why they mainly learn cutting and slashing based attacks.
 
Scizor can learn Silver Wind via breeding and it is a powerfull move, it can boost all stats.
Sorry for the bluntness, but Silver Wind is hot garbage.

60BP as your main damage option is the kind of thing you run with around Gym 3, not in a competitive match. 5pp is extremely easy to play around, especially since Bug is a lackluster offensive type at best.
The 10% omniboost chance is also not something you should rely on and will not save a Scizor from getting torched by strong Fire attacks, especially since again, it lacks a powerful reliable STAB option with more than 70BP in Gen 3.

Silver was only passable in Gen 3 by sheer lack of options besides Hidden Power Bug, and that was generally a terrible idea. Furthermore, that gen did not have Technician.

After Gen 3, it's a special move and therefore completely useless on Scizor.
 
Silver was only passable in Gen 3 by sheer lack of options besides Hidden Power Bug
Maybe because a lack of better options, Silver Wind is the best bug move of gen3.
I used both in my playthrough in Leaf Green as in Pokemon showdown my Scizor with Silver Wind. It's not that bad move, and can kill a Celebi.
And it's a hard move to obtain, since you need to breeding. It's make this move more special.
And my Scizor have 8pp to use Silver Wind, I used 3 pp up.
 
Bug bite is entirely useless compared to U-turn for Scizor.
Although it is not very useful in any tier with Toxapex, it is a decent option on SD sets in Gen 6 OU and Gen 7 UU as it is generally the best option against bulky Waters (I also think it has some use in Gen 5 OU, IDK about Gen 8 UU). Even if it had Technician U-Turn, it would not necessarily use that move on SD sets because you often want to stay in and sweep.
Actually U turn is poorly distributed among bug types. Only a few bug types can learn it and even fewer of them are physical attackers. Scizor is one of the few bug types in OU/UU that uses U turn so nerfing u-turn to 60 won't gonna affect other bug types.
OU isn't the only tier that exists. I don't see why you want to nerf Beedrill, Genesect, Ninjask, Pheromosa, and any future Bug-types with U-Turn just to give Scizor a buff when it's already done very well competitively for at least 5 generations in a row. Weren't you complaining about the Bug typing needing a buff?
 
Speaking of creative, Moody sucks.

Not just because +2 on a random stat is busted, even with the Gen VIII nerf that prevents it from boosting evasion.

But also because optimal Moody sets are similar:
- Substitute
- a disruptive move like Spore or Disable
- one attack with almost no immunities like Ice Beam (haha Shedinja go brrr) or Power Trip (frick)

The fourth move varies, it's either Protect or any Protect variant, or a boosting move (e.g., Shell Smash on Smeargle).

It's also really random in terms of flavor. Smeargle I guess fits because it's an artist and people love tortured artists for some reason, and I guess Bidoof and Bibarel are meant to be silly Sweepers, but the Remoraid and Snorunt line? Why do they have this Ability?

In hindsight, it's great there are no other Pokémon with this Ability after Generation V. This Ability is a mistake.
 
It's also really random in terms of flavor. Smeargle I guess fits because it's an artist and people love tortured artists for some reason, and I guess Bidoof and Bibarel are meant to be silly Sweepers, but the Remoraid and Snorunt line? Why do they have this Ability?
Moody's name in Japanese is "Sudden Impulse" so I think the thing with Smeargle is less "tortured artist" and more "ADHD as fuck artist". Still doesn't really explain any of the other mons get it.
 
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