You just described like 80% of competitive gamers.
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I watched wolfeys video on ranking the pokemon gimmicks in a vgc context. Went about as I expected, with z moves being the worst, megas being either too much or worthless, and dynamax being overtuned but the closest one resembling balanced.
I went to check the comments and I saw some comments that said "Megas are only unbalanced/bad because they stopped early. If gamefreak kept going, it'd be a good mechanic", which is a common counter argument to people who think megas are bad, but I don't think I can see it.
Because you can only have one mega in a team, decided in the builder so to speak, megas not only compete with other mons, but with themselves. Why use mega pidgeot when you can use m ray (extreme example because m ray is an extremity but hey, it was in the game)? As megas kept being added, I find likely they'd just powercreep other megas or be too weak to be considered for a slot, which leads into a very constricted metagame. Sure, maybe in 2022 worlds would have been mega dragapult, turtonator, lycanroc and cinderace instead of the cores we had in gen 6 and 7, but all you're changing is which pokemon you're limiting teams to.
Megas fare better in a tier format (also why they're looked at more fondly by smogon players I assume), but I think there'd come a point where newer megas just kept pushing others out of the spotlight, which just means you created two ways of being powercrept.
I think in a way, that's one of the reasons why gamefreak dumped the concept. There has been an increased pressure on making vgc an e sports, and having the top 20 teams be the exact same 2 teams repeated over and over wasn't a good look. Not only that, but the amount of effort put in trying to come up w them and balance them out only to it fail to be useful 70% of the time is a lot of wasted design time. Sure, they're good merch and people think they're cool, but you can get good merch and people thinking theyre cool with normal pokemon already.
I think that with dynamax, they're going to stick with some base rules for most gimmicks from now on: any pokemon can use it and no held items needed. Let's see how well that fares in the future
I went to check the comments and I saw some comments that said "Megas are only unbalanced/bad because they stopped early. If gamefreak kept going, it'd be a good mechanic", which is a common counter argument to people who think megas are bad, but I don't think I can see it.
Because you can only have one mega in a team, decided in the builder so to speak, megas not only compete with other mons, but with themselves. Why use mega pidgeot when you can use m ray (extreme example because m ray is an extremity but hey, it was in the game)? As megas kept being added, I find likely they'd just powercreep other megas or be too weak to be considered for a slot, which leads into a very constricted metagame. Sure, maybe in 2022 worlds would have been mega dragapult, turtonator, lycanroc and cinderace instead of the cores we had in gen 6 and 7, but all you're changing is which pokemon you're limiting teams to.
Megas fare better in a tier format (also why they're looked at more fondly by smogon players I assume), but I think there'd come a point where newer megas just kept pushing others out of the spotlight, which just means you created two ways of being powercrept.
I think in a way, that's one of the reasons why gamefreak dumped the concept. There has been an increased pressure on making vgc an e sports, and having the top 20 teams be the exact same 2 teams repeated over and over wasn't a good look. Not only that, but the amount of effort put in trying to come up w them and balance them out only to it fail to be useful 70% of the time is a lot of wasted design time. Sure, they're good merch and people think they're cool, but you can get good merch and people thinking theyre cool with normal pokemon already.
I think that with dynamax, they're going to stick with some base rules for most gimmicks from now on: any pokemon can use it and no held items needed. Let's see how well that fares in the future
As time passes, I started to be less and less fond of Mega Evolution, or rather, in it’s current state as is. If it were given another chance, I rather have it revamped to make it easier to rebalance, but even then, the impact back in ORAS makes any solution too little and too late.
Great designs and concept alone aren’t going to cut it if the execution went so bad the first time, the damage is done unless the concept went through a major “reboot” in term of mechanism, to say the least.
Yeah, GF needs to decide if they're going with VGC rules(doubles, no stall) or not for all games going forwards. Dynamax was ridiculous trash(there's a reason it was the only super mechanic banned so far), but I think VGC is happy with it. And if GF wants to do so, that's fine. But then focus on that. Give us a doubles-focused game. Make the player and the enemies in-game use things like items, support moves, proper EVs/Natures, etc. Build the single-player and the competitive off the same rules and mindset. As-is, the games give us 6-vs-6 singles as the primary way to engage with everything, GF should balance based on that.
For the record, my ranking would be Z-moves>Megas>Dynamax. Z moves have a cost associated with them(item slot), are semi-predictable, and Z-Status moves can enable diverse strategies you don't otherwise see. Megas are no different from new mons in practice(yes, exception for Gyarados/Sharpedo which will delay mega depending on situation) except for the 1-per-team limit and no item, and are just as balanced as new mons(not very). Dynamax is stupid-busted, worse than Gen 5 weather, and specifically blocks 95% of all counterplay. And they eliminated the Support ZMove option in favor of Protect+, because Dynamax is about 2 giant monsters slugging it out, not clever tactics or creativity. I'm just so unhappy with that mechanic.
I would kinda disagree, but I can see why you'd think that as singles player.
Dynamax did definitely warp the metagame in VGC as well, but it did create its own dedicated strategies. Weakness Policy abuse was one of them ofc, as well as multiple creative ways to actually rid of opposer dynamax.
Eerie Sound, Eject Button Switcheroo, Yawn abuse, were some of the many shenenigans people would pull out to subvert the position where you Dynamaxed and suddently had a useless pokemon with half the HP that will get ignored.
At same time, many dynamaxers would employ abilities like Clear Body to make sure to preserve the buffs they acquired. Other Dynamaxers are picked specifically to work with certain weathers or terrains.
Some creative Dynamax usage also made otherwise-completely-unviable mons like Regigigas or Coalassal actually see the spotlight and reach "you need a counter for this or you get rolled over" status, not much unlike certain singles sweepers like Volcarona.
I can definitely see where Wolfey was coming from, and while I won't disagree with the mechanic being horrible for singles (i've played a bit of BSS and honestly it wasn't fun in the slightest), people need to accept these mechanics are designed for doubles and "breaking singles" isn't something GameFreaks really cares for.
(On a more positive note, I'm on the train of thought that Teralyze won't remotely be as gamebreaking for singles as Dynamax was, so maybe they did indeed learn their lesson on that front)
I truly believe the best solution would be something like a doubles tutorial and then it gives you something to enable double battle opponents. Main issue is you'd double (haha) the time spent creating teams which is really bad, but I know not everyone likes playing double battles all the time
I also don't like Dynamax pokémon, first because it brokens all my strategy of Double Team + One Hit KO moves, and also because I don't understand how it works. I noted some pokémons change the ability when is dynamax (as my Articuno who start to hail when is dynamax) and some moves have weird new features as Max Airstream raises speed.
Also Endeavor don't works in Dynamax pokémon and can't understand how it is calculated.
I also don't understand how it's works...
But I like Megas pokémon, is a new way to give some old pokémon new evolutions and new abilitys (and new types). I think Game Freak should stick with Mega Evolution and forget Dynamax and Z moves for the gen 9.
Does every post you make have to be about evasion and/or OHKO?
On the topic of creativity in “ team building “, VGC suffers a huge problem. Unlike Smogon tournaments where you can switch your teams and have no specters due to the nature of PS!, you can switch your teams around and apply more surprising strategies because you are not devoted to a single team. In VGC, you are team locked foe an entire tourney that not only you have to play a BO3, but people will get to see your team ahead of time. So that’s why VGC teams tend to use the more consistent Pokémon like Landorus-T and Zacian-C over more niche counterparts. That also means bulky offense tends to be more common than any other archetypes, because it’s the most consistent, sure it might be boring for spectators, but players are here to win, not entertain.
They should at the very least try to heed some attention to BSS, since not only is it the official Singles format, but it’s also dominated by Japanese primarily, their local audience. I also think BSS would be more appealing for newcomers to join because it is closer to the main campaign than Doubles is. And before anyone goes down my throat saying stall is going to dominate BSS, I disagree. Stall is less reliable compared to 6v6 to two factors, one being that it’s harder to wall things with 3 Pokémon as opposed to 6, and things are squishier than at Lv.50 as opposed to 100.
My rankings are this: Megas #1, Z-Moves #2, and Dynamax #3. I really like Z-Moves because there’s not only limited offensive effects, Z-Powers can be used defensively as well, like Z-Trick Room and Z-Haze. And coming from a 1v1 Player, Z-Crystals were amazing to put on stall mons because they deny Trick and Switcheroo, huge achille heals for stall Pokémon.
On topic of Wolfe, I really can’t say I enjoy his videos, simply because he looks from things only a VGC perspective, without taking consideration of other formats ( like his Mega Ranking and Super Mechanic ). And the fact he called people who used Mega Altaria “ dumb “, and I’m someone who took Mega Altaria to 1800s + on BSD for ORAS.
More Double Battles in the main game would be great, as are more interesting strategies.
But my number one improvement has to be an optional Trainer School like Earl's Pokémon Academy from Pokémon Stadium 2.
Earl's Pokémon Academy is by a country mile the best tutorial in the games. I want it back ASAP because it would benefit anyone.
It teaches everything you need to know about playing the game somewhat decently, from the basics to more complex stuff. You have things like Type match-ups, status conditions, move categories, stats, but you also get to learn shit like additional effects of moves and recovery, as well as things that were new to GSC, e.g., held items. And at the end of every lecture, you get to answer questions to prove you paid attention to the lesson.
This is already great, especially compared to what other games in the franchise teaches the player, but the cherry on top is the battles. That's right, in Pokémon Stadium 2, you are given special "puzzle" battles to prove you know how to battle well. Because good teaching isn't just lecturing. You are thrown into a 3v3 battle, and you have to find the three best available Pokémon.
A memorable example is early on, a battle that teaches Moves with a semi-invulnerable turn and Moves with a charging turn.
And this was back in Generation II! Can you imagine the lesson battles if they were made after that? With Double Battles and its own set of strategies? New battle types like Triple and Inverse? The Physical/Special split? New moves like Stealth Rock or the Pledges, Abilities, the Fairy type, new items? You can do so fucking much with all these new toys!
Alright, gushing over. All I want to say is, Earl's Pokémon Academy = good, please bring it back.
But my number one improvement has to be an optional Trainer School like Earl's Pokémon Academy from Pokémon Stadium 2.
Earl's Pokémon Academy is by a country mile the best tutorial in the games. I want it back ASAP because it would benefit anyone.
It teaches everything you need to know about playing the game somewhat decently, from the basics to more complex stuff. You have things like Type match-ups, status conditions, move categories, stats, but you also get to learn shit like additional effects of moves and recovery, as well as things that were new to GSC, e.g., held items. And at the end of every lecture, you get to answer questions to prove you paid attention to the lesson.
This is already great, especially compared to what other games in the franchise teaches the player, but the cherry on top is the battles. That's right, in Pokémon Stadium 2, you are given special "puzzle" battles to prove you know how to battle well. Because good teaching isn't just lecturing. You are thrown into a 3v3 battle, and you have to find the three best available Pokémon.
A memorable example is early on, a battle that teaches Moves with a semi-invulnerable turn and Moves with a charging turn.
- Your opponent uses moves like Solar Beam, which are strong but came with a significant drawback: a charging turn.
- You are given six Pokémon, three of which having moves like Dig or Fly to evade the damage dealt by Solar Beam and the rest.
And this was back in Generation II! Can you imagine the lesson battles if they were made after that? With Double Battles and its own set of strategies? New battle types like Triple and Inverse? The Physical/Special split? New moves like Stealth Rock or the Pledges, Abilities, the Fairy type, new items? You can do so fucking much with all these new toys!
Alright, gushing over. All I want to say is, Earl's Pokémon Academy = good, please bring it back.
I often read people complaining that recent games (especially Gen VII), "spend too much time with tutorials" at the start.
The true problem is not the length, but the fact that, as tutorials, it's terrible, as it barely teaches anything. If they were good tutorials, at least...
Here's my stance: Dynamax is a terrible gimmick because for it to work as designed, it has to outright ignore several mechanics. It's a two-fold sign of how poorly balanced Pokemon is for Doubles or VGC's attempted E-Sports format, because we went from a bunch of mechanics completely dominating a bunch of teams (Protect scouting, Fake Out, Best Megas, Weather, Trick Room), to a Gimmick that dominates the game because it literally ignores half of them (Flinch and Protect) and gives brainless access to several others (Tons of HP for tanking out, Max Moves for Weather/Boosting).
Dynamax being what Wolfey ranks highest for VGC (even if his basis and criteria are all correct and reasonable) is not indicative of Dynamax being a good game mechanic in and of itself. It's just the latest sledgehammer GF took to the Square Block that is Pokemon in the Round Hole that is E-Sports. Their game design in the context of BO3 Use-4 Doubles is broken to the point that avoiding an overcentralized team-set required a gimmick that cheats its way out of several balance decisions to begin with. I'd be willing to say this happens in some degree with Singles, but I'm biased because most of my experience with "competitive" minded Singles is through Smogon.
The gimmicks continue to demonstrate to me that Pokemon as it exists and is handled is not suited to being an E-Sport. The (legal) accessibility for game pieces and practicing resources is horrid, the balancing is hands-off to the point of worthlessness (Compare Card-games with huge amounts of decks/styles implementing banlists or rotating formats with deliberately chosen pools), the design around it is incredibly half-hearted, and there's no consistent design goal besides making sure they can squeeze all the battles into a certain timespan rather than an idea of example match progression. Pokemon is in a similar position to where "competitive" Super Smash Bros. is, or is at least perceived to be: a party game with token attention to Competitive design that is sustained by the size of the consumer base much more than effort or dedication by the company in charge.
The imbalance/propensity of certain Megas to get particularly common is a point cited against them in VGC, but besides that occurring significantly more in Doubles than Singles w/ a banlist, how is that any different ultimately than Non-Megas that simply ARE everywhere the same way, like Tapus for Terrain or Incineroar because Intimidate/Fake Out/Parting Shot is that effective a support combo? Mega Kangaskhan or Mega Mawile didn't become dominant because they were the best Megas, but because they were just busted Pokemon in the format, Mega or not.
tl;dr Dynamax is a shit gimmick in Singles, which is what most of the game is about. It being better in Doubles is irrelevant because GF/TPC either sucks or gives 0 craps about how to make Pokemon an E-Sport
Dynamax being what Wolfey ranks highest for VGC (even if his basis and criteria are all correct and reasonable) is not indicative of Dynamax being a good game mechanic in and of itself. It's just the latest sledgehammer GF took to the Square Block that is Pokemon in the Round Hole that is E-Sports. Their game design in the context of BO3 Use-4 Doubles is broken to the point that avoiding an overcentralized team-set required a gimmick that cheats its way out of several balance decisions to begin with. I'd be willing to say this happens in some degree with Singles, but I'm biased because most of my experience with "competitive" minded Singles is through Smogon.
The gimmicks continue to demonstrate to me that Pokemon as it exists and is handled is not suited to being an E-Sport. The (legal) accessibility for game pieces and practicing resources is horrid, the balancing is hands-off to the point of worthlessness (Compare Card-games with huge amounts of decks/styles implementing banlists or rotating formats with deliberately chosen pools), the design around it is incredibly half-hearted, and there's no consistent design goal besides making sure they can squeeze all the battles into a certain timespan rather than an idea of example match progression. Pokemon is in a similar position to where "competitive" Super Smash Bros. is, or is at least perceived to be: a party game with token attention to Competitive design that is sustained by the size of the consumer base much more than effort or dedication by the company in charge.
The imbalance/propensity of certain Megas to get particularly common is a point cited against them in VGC, but besides that occurring significantly more in Doubles than Singles w/ a banlist, how is that any different ultimately than Non-Megas that simply ARE everywhere the same way, like Tapus for Terrain or Incineroar because Intimidate/Fake Out/Parting Shot is that effective a support combo? Mega Kangaskhan or Mega Mawile didn't become dominant because they were the best Megas, but because they were just busted Pokemon in the format, Mega or not.
tl;dr Dynamax is a shit gimmick in Singles, which is what most of the game is about. It being better in Doubles is irrelevant because GF/TPC either sucks or gives 0 craps about how to make Pokemon an E-Sport
A new thought I had on the topic of Dmax and the focus on doubles:
I'm an entry hazard enthusiast. I want switching to be more prominent in doubles because my favourite moves are less used there. Dmax provides trivially easy access to powerful boosts that are removed on switching, which means that it works against what I feel is one of the things that needs to happen if I'm going to accept doubles as the primary format.
I'm an entry hazard enthusiast. I want switching to be more prominent in doubles because my favourite moves are less used there. Dmax provides trivially easy access to powerful boosts that are removed on switching, which means that it works against what I feel is one of the things that needs to happen if I'm going to accept doubles as the primary format.
I'm not the biggest double fan (playing-wise, I enjoy watching pretty much any kind of pokemon format lol), but I think this is just the wrong way to look at doubles. If you want to use entry hazards, play singles, the format where those can be used for. Different formats will always pick different moves for their metas and teambuilding and wishing that doubles become more like singles is lame as hell. A more productive convo would be featuring singles on VGC (more likely BSS format), which would be pretty fun.
Also, I think we have to be realistic here that doubles is and always will be the primary format, no matter how many people use smogon or the gameplay itself is singles oriented. The acceptance has to be on our part to accept the L.
What exactly do you mean?
i meant to say discarded idk why i wrote that maybe i'm playing showdown too much.
VGC is never gonna be Singles because of Wobbufett
Not really, Shadow Tag does not affect Ghost-types, and Shed Shell exists. Woubufett is also complete Taunt Fodder. If VGC is ever going to be Singles, it will BSS, not Smogon, the former is 3v3, which makes battles more fast paced.
Speaking of Wolfe and VGC, I put a critique of why I disagreed on his super mechanic review on his comments. Here is a read:
Wolfe, as someone who plays VGC, Smogon Singles, and Battle Stadium Singles, I find this " tier list " grossly simplified without looking into the applications of other formats. For starters, the majority of complaints about Z-Moves apply to Dynamax as well, mainly the unpredictability and increased power also apply to Dynamax. I find it much more powerful for three reasons: 1. Unlike Z-Moves, which were linked to an item, Dynamax could be used literally at any point. Having an item slot is an opportunity cost for Z-Moves, since you lose consistently lose a power increase over LO or a Choice B/Specs. Its also significantly easier to predict whether a Z-Move is on a Pokemon based on evalaution like LO recoil, increased damage output, or things like Leftovers activating every turn. These are indicators that a Pokemon are very likely to have an item other than Z-Move. And also once a Z-Move is used, the item slot is effectively useless, and in a BO3, you know well advance who has the Z-Move making it easier to plan in advance. 2. It is true on average, Z-Moves are weaker than Dynamax. But Dynamax can be used for three turns and assuming of you get to use each Max Move once, that three times the damage, and that's not taking in consideration the secondary effects, which protecting from is not a viable option, since Max Moves go through protect. It severely punishes players who are playing defensively or simply do not have a very viable Dynamax Option currently at the field. One could try to stall out playing defensively with Max Guard, but playing Dynamax Defensively is heavily in favor of the offensive player, who if Dynamaxing first, will often have stat boosts in contrast to players Dynamaxing second. So in conclusion, Dynamax is significantly stronger than Z-Moves, despite being completely different mechanics. 3. Dynamax is purely offensive mechanic. Stall or Defensive mons cannot take advantage of Dynamax at all, other than Max Guarding to block opposing attacks or trying to stop an emergency Sweeper. On the contrast, Z-Moves can be used defensively, like Toxapex and Tapu Fini using Z-Haze for a one time heal, and there is of course Z-Trick Room for Hypnosis and ignoring Taunt. Your anaylsis on Megas is also very narrow minded. You argue how terrible Mega Blaziken is arguing than it is nothing more than a LO Blaziken, but that is a gross simplification of how strong it is, hence why its top tier in Battle Spot Singles and Ubers. The 20 point increase is huge, as it allows Blaziken to outspeed Tapu Koko and Pheromosa after one Speed Boost, the former requires a Positve Speed nature, while the latter is impossible to outspeed at +1 even with a Speed nature. These are marks huge to the point that you would invest the Mega Slot into Blaziken despite being similar to the Life Orb Blaziken. Mega Gallade in a similar boat- despite not being a VGC staple, Mega Gallade was excellent on Mono-Fighting and Psychic teams for its ability to tear Poison types for the former, while being able dispatch of Dark and Steel for the latter. On Psychic, compared to Mega Gardevoir, Mega Gallade was the better the choice in 90% of scenarios thanks to better speed tier, and the fact Fighting was better for Psychic compared to Fairy due to its ability to maul Steel in addition to Dark, which the former Gardevoir struggled against. In fact, Mega Gardevoir was completely unviable in OU thanks to Tapu Lele and Mega Alakazam, the former had the same typing, better ability, but did not take up your Mega slot; the latter was stronger thanks to higher Speed and Sp.Atk. In the end, I find it hard to enjoy your content, because a lot of your desires and beliefs are solely based on VGC without any regard to Singles or really any other, and the way you discuss it makes it feel objective, like calling someone " dumb " for using Mega Altaria, despite it being a very solid Pokemon for 1v1 and OU. That's why I can't see myself subscribed. I'd enjoy your content a lot more if you'd at least acknowledge how mechanics benefit and harm other formats, not just VGC.
On topic of VGC accessibility, this an article from Upcomer explaining why VGC is below bottom tier when it comes to Esports. According to Cybertron, the biggest reasons are the fact that the Casual game and Competitve game are completely different, and the whole IV and EV system makes an insanely higher barrier for entry. To me the latter is the biggest problem on why Pokemon struggles as an esport. If people have to spend hours either breeding or soft-resetting to get the IVs they want, no one will have the interest on playing on cartridge, regardless of how balanced or what kind of super mechanic is implemented. At the very least, IVs need to go. The EV system can stay, since unlike IVs, EVs don't take nearly as long to apply, and different EV spreads can result in different calculations. The other issue that Cybertron points out is that VGC isn't as big of a money maker for TPC hence the lack of a big push, AKA known how Capitalism ruins innovation.
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I’d add that casual players will also be woefully unprepared for competitive scenes, period.
Between the lack of genuine challenge at late-game such as lategame teams insising on crappy movepools, overreliance on luck-widening mechanic like Double Team, the excessive handholding to the player, the Affection mechanics not applied to competitive, etc, all of which are found in a casual playthrough, casual players are only get more and more likely to get allienated from competitive due to these issues making them thinking that competitive like VGC will be a cakewalk, only for looking impossible for them due to top tier teams sweeping them.
Despite GF’s efforts, there isn’t enough focus and tried to balance between casual and competitive without even figuring the issues found on BOTH sides.
My own take is that gimmicks were a mistake, theyre all just different levels of bullshit depending on what you're playing. Its not like the battles themselves have been perfected to warrant so much experimentation imo
The gap between vgc and casual is weird to fix. I think something like monster hunter stories, where the "rider and monstie vs eide and monstie" pvp format is featured early in on the series, and you get side content just for that, both in multiplayer and in PvE.
Maybe dedicated facilities for doubles, kinda like contests, but that are designed for the level youre in instead of post game stuff
The gap between vgc and casual is weird to fix. I think something like monster hunter stories, where the "rider and monstie vs eide and monstie" pvp format is featured early in on the series, and you get side content just for that, both in multiplayer and in PvE.
Maybe dedicated facilities for doubles, kinda like contests, but that are designed for the level youre in instead of post game stuff
Casual players getting ego checked when they first start playing competitively is a thing in literally every game with PvP in it ever. There are only two things you can do that might remotely put a dent in this problem; one is to make resources abundantly available for the player to improve. This means making information about how mechanics like EVs/IVs work more readily available, as well as making it easier to obtain competitive Pokemon for your team. The other thing is a skill-based matchmaking system, and there are numerous problems with that as well.
No amount of game design will let you balance a disparity in skill or game knowledge, and any attempt to do so only ever harms the game.
But... He's a vgc player? His whole channel is just his personal experiences and knowledge, why does he gotta give disclaimers and talk about the singles experience that he doesnt seem to have much of, especially of niche formats like 1v1 singles lol. Just watch a youtuber like aim or freezai.
This right here is what you call potential.
Sword and Shield would have been better off if Eternatus, its lore, and its entire concept never existed. Perhaps Gamefreak would have also never made Zacian so broken if having it defeat Eternamax was never a factor. There would be no excuse for the Dynamax mechanic either, as it hopefully would not have been a thing. Having no mechanic or having just Mega Evolution back would have been a great improvement over Dynamax, Gigantamax, and Eternamax.
The talk of Comp entry being incredibly hard of a barrier compared to main game reminds me of difficulty in Mario and Kirby
The difficulty curve is pretty low for the base game. Extra difficulty is such a high level, that due to never getting prepared in main game, a lot of casual players just...never finish it
It's poor game dev practice in that hyper casual focus has meant less and less to get into extra modes, because the difficulty diff is incredibly high
The difficulty curve is pretty low for the base game. Extra difficulty is such a high level, that due to never getting prepared in main game, a lot of casual players just...never finish it
It's poor game dev practice in that hyper casual focus has meant less and less to get into extra modes, because the difficulty diff is incredibly high