I feel like it is a safe bet that we'll only see one 'mon, her partner Pokemon, and people will be pissed off because "All that build up for just one Pokemon?! There needs to be moar information!!1!"
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Pokemon Scarlet & Violet - 18th Nov 2022! **OFFICIAL INFO ONLY**
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Imagine if the only voice acting in the series was the damn Vtuber. People would riot.
All the Pokemon are “voice acted” technically at least. And I assume that Iono won’t be the last human voice in the series (excluding the Anime and Spinoff games).
Going by what she was saying in the last trailer she's gonna mention her partner Pokemon... and the way she described it makes it sound like it is something new.
Yeah, there’s all kinds of problems with that supposed “theme” people are connecting.
Ultra Burst is hardly much of a mechanic unto itself. It’s basically just a reskinned Mega Evolution, except for the sake of a single Pokémon. The new battling feature in Gen 7 was very clearly Z-Moves, which doesn’t fit the “unit prefixes” mold at all.
Some people have said “Ah, but Z-Moves don’t change form; this naming theme is only for form-changing mechanics.” But if that’s the case, then what about Primal Reversion? If the lone example of Ultra Burst counts, surely Primal Reversion, which can be used by two Pokémon, should also be included? But “Primal” obviously isn’t a prefix.
Okay okay, so scratch Ultra Burst and Primal Reversion, since they only exist for one or two specific Pokémon anyway. That gives us Mega-Giga-Tera, which is the actual progression of the prefixes, hooray! We’ve cracked it! Gen X’s battle transformation will surely be called “Peta Power” or something!
Except… the “Giga” (which I think is already a bit of a stretch because it’s not called “Gigamax”) in our supposed sequence only exists in English.
In Japan, Gigantamax is called Kyodaimax.
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Not to mention the goofiness of using Eternatus as the spokesperson for this theory, whose special form is "Eternamax"/"Mugendaimax" (infinite).Yeah, there’s all kinds of problems with that supposed “theme” people are connecting.
Ultra Burst is hardly much of a mechanic unto itself. It’s basically just a reskinned Mega Evolution except for a single Pokémon. The new battling feature in Gen 7 was very clearly Z-Moves, which doesn’t fit the “unit prefixes” mold at all.
Some people have said “Ah, but Z-Moves don’t change form; this naming theme is only for form-changing mechanics.” But if that’s the case, then what about Primal Reversion? If the lone example of Ultra Burst counts, surely Primal Reversion, which can be used by two Pokémon, should also be included? But “Primal” obviously isn’t a prefix.
Okay okay, so scratch Ultra Burst and Primal Reversion, since they only exist for one or two specific Pokémon anyway. That gives us Mega-Giga-Tera, which is the actual progression of the prefixes, hooray! We’ve cracked it! Gen X’s battle transformation will surely be called “Peta Power” or something!
Except… the “Giga” (which I think is already a bit of a stretch because it’s not called “Gigamax”) in our supposed sequence only exists in English.
Meanwhile the possibility of Z standing for "Zeta/Zetta" is right there...Yeah, there’s all kinds of problems with that supposed “theme” people are connecting.
Ultra Burst is hardly much of a mechanic unto itself. It’s basically just a reskinned Mega Evolution except for a single Pokémon. The new battling feature in Gen 7 was very clearly Z-Moves, which doesn’t fit the “unit prefixes” mold at all.
Some people have said “Ah, but Z-Moves don’t change form; this naming theme is only for form-changing mechanics.” But if that’s the case, then what about Primal Reversion? If the lone example of Ultra Burst counts, surely Primal Reversion, which can be used by two Pokémon, should also be included? But “Primal” obviously isn’t a prefix.
Okay okay, so scratch Ultra Burst and Primal Reversion, since they only exist for one or two specific Pokémon anyway. That gives us Mega-Giga-Tera, which is the actual progression of the prefixes, hooray! We’ve cracked it! Gen X’s battle transformation will surely be called “Peta Power” or something!
Except… the “Giga” (which I think is already a bit of a stretch because it’s not called “Gigamax”) in our supposed sequence only exists in English.
The Z stands for Zenith
One could say that, although it was established in USUM that the Z actually stems from “zenryoku” (meaning “full-powered”) in Japanese, and from the word “zenith” in English. So it wouldn’t be official, at any rate.
(Incidentally, I wonder how that tidbit was handled in all the other localizations. It doesn’t seem like Bulbapedia has a list.)
If other mechanic localizations are any indication, like Dynamax, I'm guessing most Western Languages probably keep it "Zenith" (or whatever the approximation for spelling would be) like English and most eastern languages (Korean, Thai, China) just keep the Zenryoku (or how that word would be written in their language, rather)
Ah. TIL. Then the answers are probably either they realized they could do that theme after SuMo and just continued from there or it's a huge coincidence with Giga being short for Gigantic and Tera is probably Terra (Earth, land) without the second R.
I file it as "Pokemon fans and not try to find patterns everywhere - challenge (impossible!!)"
I wouldn't be surprised if there's literally no pattern and they just pick whatever name sounds fancy enough...
The only one that makes sense here is Mega.
The others are just "Look at this badger! It is totally a rat, fire starters are chinese zodiac confirmed!!!!"
My first thought was that it came from “terra,” yeah. What with it being gems and all, “Terastal” would essentially be a portmanteau meaning “land crystal,” which seems appropriate for the lumps of Terastal rocks that mark the locations of Tera Raid Dens, as well as how those rocks spring up from the ground when a Pokémon Terastallizes. But I am just supposing.
While I’m at it, I’ve also though of another wrinkle with the “prefix” theory — if Z-Moves are conveniently disqualified on account of not changing forms, then Terastal itself arguably shouldn’t count either. Terastallized Pokémon don’t actually “change form” (so far as we currently know, anyway), they just become glossy and wear a special crown. But any Pokémon is capable of it, so rather than being equated with Gigantamax, it would be more accurate to situate Terastal on the level of Dynamax (which just makes any Pokémon grow massive, glow red, and have clouds swirl over their head). But then you’ve got Mega-Dyna-Tera and it’s all messed up again.
I looked up foreign wikis, and it turns out the French, German, Spanish, and Chinese equivalents of Bulbapedia have the Malie Library texts, where the idea Z stands for "Zenith" comes from.
- The French, German, and Spanish texts don't say "Z stands for Zenith", however they all mention the word "zenith" when describing how Z-Moves work.
- The Chinese text uses the word 全力 (zenryoku) in Japanese.
Now please excuse me, I have to search about Marshadow's so-called "Zenith form" and whether it's official or not.
"Zenith" Marshadow was used on some Marshadow merch, at least in america. https://web.archive.org/web/2019020...com/marshadow-pokémon-pins-(2-pack)-710-03023
I don't think other merchandise refers to it by name. Not that there is seemingly any marshadow merchandise on sale now to check, anyway; and Japan doesnt sell the pins currently either.
e: I also feel like the pokemon center us site is super borked for me so that's fun.
e2: Interestingly it seems to be the only place that mentions it. That one specific bit of merchandise. The official website used to have a little bit about it when showcasing Marshadow, but doesn't give it a name (& the file name is just the alt tag). Mysterious
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That... strikes me as such an odd decision, even if it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things. Like, Hawaii historically has had a ton of interaction with and immigration from Japan as far back as the 1800s (if not sooner), and Alola reflects this with the regional forms specifically being migrant species from Kanto and by having a ton of Kanto-Johto influence in its culture. Surely they could have borrowed a Kantonian word for Z moves as well instead of just grabbing some random English word?
Really I'm just being pedantic, but still, kinda lame regardless. Could have been a neat bit of worldbuilding that contributes to something already well-established in Alola.
Hm.
I mean if we really want to get pedantic there's no specific reason it should be a "kanto" loan word either, it should probably be some hawaiian term for it since Z Moves are entirely an alolan thing (the z motif even specifically seems to come from the Tapu, judging by them making the Rings and the Z animation that is created when you get the tapunium)
But as it is it's just "zenryoku" in japan for the same reason its "zenith" in english; it's not actually meant to be a word from elsewhere, it's just another japanese/english word in the japanese/english version of the game's book
For reference the full text of the book is just
"Some Myriad Z-Move Notes
The vigor and strength of the trainer combine with their Pokemon, as they bring everything out of one another in a move.
Thus came the Z of Zenith."
Since the word doesnt have a descriptor for it, like the tapu do in another book to specify they're guardian deities, it's probably meant to just be...well, a word, that you'd recognize and understand immediately.
But that's just a theory... A GAME THEORY
Pokétubers complaining about Iono dragging out for content and being really annoying while posting videos where they drag out for content and sound annoying lmfao (Particularly the "Was electroweb said as a hint for us to slow down???!?!?" thing that sounded so stupid)
As for the eye thing itself, I kinda get the feeling that its just a stylization thing. Its definitely an interesting thing to point out but idt it means anyth at large