SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

[The N@me User]

Ah cool, that's only... *checks notes*... another 9 Pokemon of mine that will be usable or need complete moveset changes. Was expecting another SwSh level of pain. Neat.

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I'm so tired.

I don't understand why Aromatherapy is getting removed tbh. It was a Heal Bell that Grass types could learn. That's like removing Synthesis for shits and giggles.

 

[Eriorguez]

Same reason Grasswhistle was removed while Sing was kept.

 

[GeneralNameless]

*checks notes* Smoliv3, Bramblin2, Rellor2, Finizen2, Toedscool2, Glimmet2. Wow, that's actually a few.

Arboliva, Brambleghast, Rabsca, Palafin, Toedscruel, Glimmora.

 

[Some random freak]

Looking forward to the stats and movepools being datamined and the inevitable sadness knowing that my new favourites will be garbo (R.I.P Falinks)

 

[Jaetheho]

Looking forward to the stats and movepools being datamined and the inevitable sadness knowing that my new favourites will be garbo (R.I.P Falinks)

I am waiting for the scorvillain stats right now. (favorite so far) I am ready to be disappointed with a 70/95/80/95/70/65 spread

 

[R_N]

So I've been hearing that a bunch of the music is apparently scuffed? From the few songs I've seen ripped on YouTube, it sounds perfectly fine.

yeah i had a few friends listening through the OST and say they thought it was pretty good, and was having fun trying to find the toby songs

 

[Sirya]

Tidy Up

The user tidies up and removes the effects of Spikes, Stealth Rock, Sticky Web, Toxic Spikes, and Substitute. This also boosts the user’s Attack and Speed stats.

Another take on Rapid Spin but without damage if I am reading that right.

It removes substitute, something rapid spin can technically do but no. In fact the removal of subs is great since it can boost in the face of certain mons without needing to break the sub inmediatly.

 

[Ironmage]

Wait, why is Smelling Salts cut? Isn't it heavily associated with a mon that's in the game (Makuhita)?

 

[TyDev]

>Immune to Fire
>Immune to Dragon
>Resists Fighting

>fidough counters Koraidon

Route 2 dog made of dough flexing on a box leggo is what I need from this gen

 

[Eriorguez]

Smellingsalts and Wake Up Slap got cut by Movexit 3 years ago.

 

[BlizzardHero]

Wait, why is Smelling Salts cut? Isn't it heavily associated with a mon that's in the game (Makuhita)?

Smelling Salts got Dexited in Gen 8, along with the Hariyama line. Probably why it's remaining Dexited. Though, that kind of precedent is why Dexiting moves (and Pokemon) really just sucks.

 

[ThreeT]

Do we know if Speed Boost got nerfed?

 

[R_N]

Powder & Mat Block being gone are funny because in SWSH
-Mat Block was actually fully functional. It had an animation and everything, but the only way to use it in SWSH...was by breeding it onto Throh and transferring it over. The fact it was usable at all was basically an oversight. And obviously, Greninja never came back
-Powder was one of those instances of the move existing (it had a normal description), but you couldn't actually use it. Vivillon wasn't in the game anyway so not a big deal except..........Ribombee could use it through breeding in USUM. So if you transferred that over you had a move that LOOKED like you could use it, but couldn't

And now both Greninja & Vivillon are back but neither of their moves were, even the one that was already ready to go.

 

[carlucio7]

I wonder if some of these removed moves are because no pokemon in the dex learns them? Why would they remove crafty shield or autotomize?

 

[AmbientDinosaur]

I'm sad seeing Submission, Skull Bash, Revenge and Nature Power getting snipped, but I can understand why.

 

[Mr. Uno]

I am waiting for the scorvillain stats right now. (favorite so far) I am ready to be disappointed with a 70/95/80/95/70/65 spread

Same - that spicy extract move will make it or break it for me. If it's +3 atk/-3 def I'm sold; otherwise, why should i care about a +2 atk/-2 def move..it's growth/swords dance with a setback for no reason :/

 

[The Raichannel]

I noticed someone said that the pseudo's first stage had a different name, but I checked the spreadsheet and couldn't find it. What's the updated name again? (Sorry, I just can't bear to scroll through another 40 pages just to find it again)

 

[ScraftyIsTheBest]

I noticed someone said that the pseudo's first stage had a different name, but I checked the spreadsheet and couldn't find it. What's the updated name again? (Sorry, I just can't bear to scroll through another 40 pages just to find it again)

Frigibax

 

[Mr. Uno]

It removes substitute, something rapid spin can technically do but no. In fact the removal of subs is great since it can boost in the face of certain mons without needing to break the sub inmediatly.

this move seems a bit self-defeating. icetar would have to have heavy-duty boots to actually utilize it without setbacks since it's weak to rocks. it's like, lets just add a random secondary effect to dragon dance cuz it's a pseudo .

edit: i take it back. now that i think of it, that shed tail move might actually be used a lot in singles. this might be the answer to that.

 

[Rarycaris]

Same - that spicy extract move will make it or break it for me. If it's +3 atk/-3 def I'm sold; otherwise, why should i care about a +2 atk/-2 def move..it's growth/swords dance with a setback for no reason :/

You can cast it on either an ally or an opponent, the applications of which are probably obvious

 

[AquaticPanic]

Cresselia's move being reworked into Jungle Healing is... kind of horrifying to be honest

Also wondering if decid's move still increases crit chance. Or in general if there's any Water Bubble situation where an important bit of the abil is left out of the description and hidden in code

 

[Mr. Uno]

You can cast it on either an ally or an opponent, the applications of which are probably obvious

oh shite... i stand corrected :D

does that mean it procs defiant/competitive?

 

[The N@me User]

Cresselia's move being reworked into Jungle Healing is... kind of horrifying to be honest

Also wondering if decid's move still increases crit chance. Or in general if there's any Water Bubble situation where an important bit of the abil is left out of the description and hidden in code

Triple Arrows:

The user kicks, then fires three arrows. This move has a heightened chance of landing a critical hit and may also lower the target’s Defense stat or make it flinch.

Infernal Parade:

The user attacks with myriad fireballs. This may also leave the target with a burn. This move’s power is doubled if the target has a status condition.

Ceaseless Edge:

The user slashes its shell blade at the target, aiming land a critical hit. Shell splinters left behind by this attack remain scattered under the target as spikes.

PLA Starter moves for those wondering

 

[Rarycaris]

oh shite... i stand corrected :D

does that mean it procs defiant/competitive?

Yeah, it'll be +4 attack and -2 defence on a target with Defiant.

 

[Peaches144]

oh shite... i stand corrected :D

does that mean it procs defiant/competitive?

Most likely not. In the past they haven't proceed when the drop is triggered by an ally's move.

I'm hoping that's different for abilities tho since the abilities of the quartet lower ally stats too (at least by the current wording of the abilities).