Metagame [SPOILERS] Scarlet & Violet OU Discussion [BAN LIST POST 626]

[1LDK]

I mean, a 4x flying weakness is pretty hard to overcome:

Wait its flying type? no no noOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

here are are so many new interactions to add, the majority of which have only been (kinda) figured out in the past few days,

I think this gen has more gimmicks and stuff than gen 8, gen 8 was dinamax mainly, here we have prehistoric pokemon, prehistoric abilitys, nerfs, buffs, so they´ll probably take more time, still, lets be patient and everything will be alright

 

[Finchinator]

Baton Pass will remain banned in SV OU.

 

[CherryFruit]

Baton Pass will remain banned in SV OU.

Proof?

 

[Finchinator]

Proof?

i literally run the tier dog

 

[Liquidocelot]

Baton Pass will remain banned in SV OU.

Will Sand/Snow Veil and brightpowder remain banned in SV OU underneath evasion clause?

 

[awyp]

i literally run the tier dog

They joined Smogon 17 minutes ago. I'm sure they're trolling.

Also Scald being currently learned by just Volcanion is amazing, now I never have to worry on switch to a incoming Scald and worry about a burn on a physical attacker.

The Snow + Def boost I think will be huge in terms of popularity and usage a slight uptick from Gen 8 OU lol (My prediction)

 

[ritch.]

5 bucks walls it
but on another topic, how much do you guys think PS! will take to update to the new gen? because i dont think they are gonna have it all by midnight, that sounds impossible

I'll bet 10 dollars it gets walled by it

 

[Finchinator]

Will Sand/Snow Veil and brightpowder remain banned in SV OU underneath evasion clause?

Yes, good question -- they will be banned

 

[ritch.]

6 hours and 16 minutes till game release!

 

[Pabloaram]

Someone knows when Pokemon Showdown gonna have all the new mons???

 

[MattC (Banned)]

Palafin finna be OU

It got Battle Bond, but debatably slightly worse. Zero to Hero is legit a Battle Bond but if you switch. It can use Encore locking, Haze, Boomburst. It gets walled by pex ye - until it pulls out Zen Headbutt

I think a CB set with Flip Turn (to proc Zero to Hero), Close Combat, Jet Punch for priority and Zen Headbutt / Tera Blast for Toxapex. Imma spam it on ladder and show y'all its potential

Furthermore, its stats. 100/160/97/106/87/100. Almost on the level of FUCKIN KYUREM BLACK. I'm almost certain this monster is UUBL if not an Uber. Its fast, strong, and can take a hit if need be. I'm so hyped man. This thing is Ash-Greninja at home and it'll prove itself

 

[ritch.]

Someone knows when Pokemon Showdown gonna have all the new mons???

Probably not as soon as it hits 12 am, but if I had to make a guess, probably a couple hours after 12, or a day or two

 

[qways]

Baton Pass will remain banned in SV OU.

whats your view on shed tail? Should it be banned aswell?

 

[Finchinator]

whats your view on shed tail? Should it be banned aswell?

Probably, but we will cross that bridge when we get there. Due to limited distribution, we can isolate that problem whereas universal Baton Pass has proven to be problematic over numerous generations.

 

[MattC (Banned)]

Probably, but we will cross that bridge when we get there. Due to limited distribution, we can isolate that problem whereas universal Baton Pass has proven to be problematic over numerous generations.

Cyclizar has a Regenerator Substitute thats also gets passed to its teammates. Who gets it anyway?

 

[Pabloaram]

Baton Pass will remain banned in SV OU.

I know about specific clausses but will giving dry batton pass a chance. We have uturn, volt switch, teleport, flip turn and probably shed tail. So why not try??

 

[Karxrida]

Also the Snow + Def boost I think will be huge in terms of popularity and usage (My prediction)

Ice still has nonexistent defensive utility due to lacking resists (only resists itself) and a ton of weaknesses, including a vulnerability to Stealth Rock in a meta that is looking to be very heavy on hazard stacking. (Boots exists but that means losing out on other potentially better items.) Offensive Ice-type might appreciate dodging a few KOs they wouldn't have otherwise, but I think the overall status of the type will largely depend on how weather interacts with Terastal and, eventually, if we get better hazard removal.

 

[MattC (Banned)]

Ice still has nonexistent defensive utility due to lacking resists (only resists itself) and a ton of weaknesses, including a vulnerability to Stealth Rock in a meta that is looking to be very heavy on hazard stacking. (Boots exists but that means losing out on other potentially better items.) Offensive Ice-type might appreciate dodging a few KOs they wouldn't have otherwise, but I think the overall status of the type will largely depend on how weather interacts with Terastal and, eventually, if we get better hazard removal.

Better? Aren't boots in sv?

 

[thecolinater5]

5 bucks walls it
but on another topic, how much do you guys think PS! will take to update to the new gen? because i dont think they are gonna have it all by midnight, that sounds impossible

4x weak to flying walls it idk about that

 

[MattC (Banned)]

Tera Blast tho

 

[Finchinator]

anyone wanna see the initial sv ou ban list

 

[baf]

anyone wanna see the initial sv ou ban list

could be a laugh

 

[thecolinater5]

Baton Pass will remain banned in SV OU.

aww my dry pivoting move on screamtail, there was even potential for toxic wish passing pepehands

 

[thecolinater5]

anyone wanna see the initial sv ou ban list

why yes

 

[Finchinator]

ok