Put ceruledge higher, one of the only volcarona checks. Also hands and jugulis should be B- with Chomp and Dirge and Dozo should be moved up to A- because unaware walls in this meta are necessary
unless I'm dumb and this is usage tierlist
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unless I'm dumb and this is usage tierlist
Is this ranked by usage?
Just personal opinion
There's a thread for that if you want to try to bring it back to life:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/personal-ou-viability-rankings.3714732/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/personal-ou-viability-rankings.3714732/
he did the monster math
the... pocket monster math?
have some quibbles with this but it looks good. where's tork btw? think its the same tier as wake
How good is Iron Valiant on Electric Terrain? such as the Specs variants?
Aura Sphere doesn't miss but Focus Blast is stronger but with 70% Accuracy.
Aura Sphere doesn't miss but Focus Blast is stronger but with 70% Accuracy.
imagine the booster energy valiant, but you can grab an actual item
requires some support, but electric terrain valiant IS THE SINGLE BIGGEST TRUE MENACE IN THE GAME
Expert belt, specs, band, set up, LO, whatever you want, requieres support but man, that thing TRULLY SWEEPS
https://pokepast.es/c473457cb021fdd7
^ So I just started playing this format and this is a sample team that I've been using but I don't know how old it is and I'm not sure if it's outdated or not so I just wanted to see what you guys think about this team in the current meta
^ So I just started playing this format and this is a sample team that I've been using but I don't know how old it is and I'm not sure if it's outdated or not so I just wanted to see what you guys think about this team in the current meta
I’m not sure shed tail is broken, but anything that successfully generates free turns the way that does is always gonna be worth talking about and having two free turn generators in Tera and shed tail will never allow for a truly balanced meta.
Not outdated looks like your standard hyper offensive team.
You can call it broken, because that's what you're saying without saying it lol
don't you think it's really weak to volcarona? None of the mons there can really do much
This should be discussed here: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/simple-questions-simple-answers-thread.3710772/
But to answer your question since this is a offensive team, you can't bring arguments like oh well isn't it weak to Volc? it's hard to switch into Volc but Tera Dark Sucker Punch with Gambit (for example) should be in range to OHKO Offensive Volc after 3 dead Allies.
Technically Dragonite could switch into a standard Giga / Fiery Dance set, but HO teams are going to be weak to a lot of things it'll be almost impossible to switch in to a S rated offensive mon majority of the time.
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I would rank Dondozo higher as it checks like 75% of physical mons in the dex rn (tho that may be from bias since i main stall)
Tork is in B-, you can still run Wake outside of Sun
Why would you though? Outside of Sun, Wake is not a particularly special mon. Not to say it doesn't work if the Sun is absent outright, but if you're not choosing to run a Sun Team (or at least a counter-team Check on Rain), I don't see why you would put Walking Wake into your team over another Special Breaker like Valiant or to a lesser extent Iron Moth, Greninja, and Zoroark-H.
Something about Booster Energy Agility as a cleaner on Hyper Offense teams? But then, Iron Moth still feels better as it’s moves are more spammable (having to click draco sucks), it has a higher initial speed, and Fire/Poison/Grass coverage is great in this metagame rn.
Kinda lol, I’m mainly saying it’s no way you can have unrestricted Tera and tail in the same meta. Not really saying which needs to go. But 2 free turns in a 12 turn match is huge.
Bro you have a very solid list aside from the Torkoal slight, weather setters (especially dominant ones have to be A- minimum regardless of how terrible they are)
just one thing
torkoal is a great mon with support tools like rapid spin, will-o-wisp, and stealth rocks,(with the possibility of yawn)
pincurchin is NU garbage(ok it gets t-spikes but like tusk hard walls this thing even if the pincurchin is tera flying oh and it has like no bulk nor support moves outside of t-wave, chilling water, and t-spikes/spikes)
the reason why wake is so broken is because torkoal is a good mon
the reason why valiant runs booster energy is because pincurchin is garbage.
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just chiming in to say that the eject button item - or whatever it’s called - can be used to turn pincurchin into a potential setter of 10+ useable turns of terrain.
it’s basically a 5v6 game with 10+ potential turns of terrain. I used it for a bit and it was fun.
it was also fun running Tera electric + specs valiant with a team designed to bring down tusk and other grounds as early as possible in the match.
nice that you had success, but we prob won't be able to use electric terrain viably until we get koko, koko is gonna be fun for OU(is he coming back? I have no idea)
i feel like pincurchin is setup fodder rn, with torkoal you can burn so tusk and dnite have a harder time setting up against you
also the worm gets free shed tail on curchin so like they can get free setup
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