I've heard from Ubers players that Pre-home Ubers was much better due to the metagame being highly centralized around Miraidon and Koraidon. Options like Annihilape, Palafin, and Iron Bundle were more viable in pre-home ubers and the metagame was considered more "balanced".
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SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics
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That I cannot say since I only played after Home dropped. Based on what you said, then that's all the more reason to bring back the legendary pokemon because right now, the tier is too centralized with very few options to handle them that reliably. If the other legendaries are back, it would significantly give us more options to deal with the threats. Ho oh, Necrozma, and Zygarde alone would be of massive help
I assume they'll probably just wind up alternating gens or something of the sort, or wind up coming "as a set" with UBs.
The fact they have their own number, name and classification tells me they probably have higher priority than regular Pokemon. They just want the option to not feel the need to bring in another 11 UBs and 20 Paradoxes every gen.
Also, overally having these "subgroups" is interesting because they can integrate or exclude them based on what the new region/storyline are based on.
Es, any time there's some kind of dimension travel shenenigans going on, UBs are a good fit.
Time travel, or just a future or past theme? Paradoxes get in.
I wouldn't be surprised if future generations introduce further "subtypes" honestly.
After the inclusion of the new Paradoxes for Indigo Disk, we'll have a total of ~25 (if Keldeo gets a Paradox too)
I don't think it will, simply because there'd be no way to make a corresponding ancient paradox (as the beasts don't have a 4th member).
There's 14 base game paradoxes (excluding the box legends since they get to be in the Legendary bin), the 2 "preview" ones we got for POkemon day and then the other 4 parts of their groups.
Ancient Ho-Oh would probably be the closest equivalent, but otherwise I agree that we won't get Future Keldeo.
We don't really have the room for them based on what we know (& honestly I suspect if we DID get another pair it'd be more literal interpretations of the drawings in the book)
In fact, paradox keldeo would be just fine, But forcing a paradox hooh alongside, itself forcing a paradox lugia And forcing a paradox for the kanto birds
They can add paradox Celebi instead if Ho-Oh. This would mirror the first two paradoxes released, iron leaves and walking wake.
Is a Paradox Entei & Terrakion more or less confirmed? I recall Khu mentioned something about it. For the other two confirmed new Paradox, will those be in day 1 or will they gradually release those as Tera Raids?
For the other legends, any educated guesses on which ones won't make it for transfer/in game? Excluding ultra beasts, I assume those are not coming back. Maybe I am putting too much faith in Khu for this.
For the other legends, any educated guesses on which ones won't make it for transfer/in game? Excluding ultra beasts, I assume those are not coming back. Maybe I am putting too much faith in Khu for this.
Day 1 of what?
We have absolutely 0 official news of all of the above. And the only remote suggestion from Khu has been the implication that all legendary/restricteds minus UBs were returning.
As "more or less confirmed" as we can ask for with Khu, but no official confirmation. The sensible bet is that all trio paradoxes are obtainable in-game without raids, as otherwise they wouldn't be in any dex and would effectively be mythicals if they are only obtainable through events.
Edit: then again:
https://x.com/hsinhsung9487/status/1721653194198008257?s=20
I interpreted "event" to mean a story event, but I suppose it's possible TPC really just mean a raid event, which for the aforementioned reasons I would consider to be a dumb decision. But then again, Zoroark in BW was basically event exclusive...
For the other legends the best we have to go on seems to be the 25 sidequests datamined from Teal Mask, but if those correspond to legendary encounters then it doesn't account for all of them, so some may still be HOME-transfer only (or you get choice of one out of X in some sidequests, etc), assuming of course that Khu's tweet indeed implies every single box legend and sub-legend makes it in and he didn't overlook any sublegends that didn't make the cut. (And who knows about the remaining mythicals, since they didn't all make it in SwSh).
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That is an interesting way of wording things. It seems to imply it happens in a specific area in a specific DLC. So maybe you are right, an in game "story event". I had assumed this would mean a raid type of event.
If the legendary are tied to side quests, then it makes sense it would be limited and the rest transfer in. Have any Pokemon been exclusive to certain game versions in the past? Example, some Pokemon found in Sword DLC 1 not found in Sheild DLC 1 but could be transferred in? Maybe they will bring version exclusivity to the DLC depending on what version of the base game you have but I doubt it.
Khu also said this in reply to that
so it's not quite what is happening
feels more likely the 3/8 is the other thought: 3 of them during the ID part of the story, the others are in the return to Area Zero
We also know they have location data iirc
Some of the Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire Legendary encounters like Reshiram/Zekrom were version exclusive and even required you import the counterpart (unsure if it was specifically from the Gen 3 Remakes or just the species) to encounter the 3rd of the Trio. HGSS did something similar with the Hoenn Trio (Groudon/Kyogre exclusive, need both to get Rayquaza).
Might try that again here, especially if the feature is like Dynamax Adventure or Raids where the idea is to have friends invite other players to runs they've already found.
Just the species.
I’m not sure that interpretation works? Because Dokutaro is almost certainly a Pokémon you encounter in Kitakami, unless Terapagos is encountered in the blueberry academy I am very doubtful of that interpretation.
My idea was maybe that it is Pokémon you can only get 1 of per save file? So Dokutaro, Terapagos, and I guess Dipplin evo? Not sure how much sense it makes but I don’t see what else could be affecting availability if it’s not event exclusive.
The trailers indicate that Terapagos is walking around in Blueberry Academy. Maybe that is indeed where we fight and capture it, too?
No? What trailer(s) are you referring to because from what I’ve seen it’s only been shown in what appears to be area zero in a room with a lot of tera crystals
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Weird, my interpretation of the trailer footage and every game screenshot of Terapagos-Normal is that it's in Blueberry Academy (although Terapagos-T does look like it's encased in crystal).
The place we see terapagos in looks an awful lot like where Liko talks to it in the anime Iirc. So it’s probably just Terapagos’s encounter room
Bro Is obviously in the area zero lol. Like, the dlc2 will most likely make us discover the rest of area zero, with possibly jungles And rivers, as the area Is HUGE. But terapagod surely Is in the area 0
In the last big Indigo Disk pre-release datamine, there were assets of a few more rooms in Area Zero, those rooms being reserved for the new Paradox Pokémon, including places to catch Walking Wake and Iron Leaves