NOC Smogon Mafia Mafia (Won by the Mafia)

[imperfectluck]

Going to issue UncleSam a warning especially since no pasting is in the rules and you should know better. Letting it slide somewhat this time because I don’t think it helps angleshooting much and obviously people are accusing UncleSam anyways but there really should have been no need to paste anything when I said I would post that “a player” asked for some rules clarification. Also from here on any pasting will be modkilled, consider that a final warning to everyone. That type of playing should be discouraged in my opinion.

 

[UncleSam]

Totally mb, pasting used to be allowed and I'm a boomer so assumed the standard ruleset had not changed. Apologies and not trying to angleshoot or anything like that, just wanted to clarify game rules / mechanics for everyone. Will not happen again.

 

[UncleSam]

cold feet from this being my first game as a mod and being directly "antagonistic" to sam when it comes to the sides of the argument we're on. and also not having easy contact to ipl aside forum pm

Will not be commenting on the rules thing again, but I will say that I don't think you've been 'antagonistic' towards me. I do think I disagree with your take on the AG situation but at least you posted your logic which is all I can ask at this stage, so ty for that.

Alright I'm out for real now, need the people I townread to post takes before DL.

Also Aura Guardian can you elaborate on the 'sam's been rubbing me wrong'. It's sorta hard to know where you're coming from with just that and I have wanted to hear more from you / get you to engage more. Can you also post your takes on Pulsar and Rostam while you're at it?

 

[imperfectluck]

Current votecount as of post 1677

Rostam (3) - Blazade, Tigershark/genius1, UncleSam
pulsar512b (3) - Ehmcee, Rostam, ZippyDoo200
Aura Guardian (3) - Celever, pulsar512b, skippergamez
Unclesam (1) - Aura Guardian

Deadline in approximately 6 hours. Will this village continue their peaceful ways and tie the vote again? Only time will tell.

 

[Aura Guardian]

A lot of the posts against me felt like they were skewing things unjustly.

Pulsar: weird d1
Rostam: Still Null. Want him pressured, but right now I've got bigger fish to fry.

 

[Aura Guardian]

Heading out; won't be able to respond for a few hours. Especially not big responses, though I might be able to sneak in a couple small ones.

 

[ZippyDoo200]

vote Celever

We'll see where this leads.

 

[ZippyDoo200]

Celever, pulsar512b, skippergamez

One of these is mafia for sure. Celever is basically in their scum-meta where they argue stupid stuff for a long time and force jokey tone.

Pulsar and skipper could also be mafia though, can't read em.

 

[Celever]

Celever, pulsar512b, skippergamez

One of these is mafia for sure. Celever is basically in their scum-meta where they argue stupid stuff for a long time and force jokey tone.

Pulsar and skipper could also be mafia though, can't read em.

What stupid stuff have I argued

Are you saying you townread everyone else in the game therefore the 2 players you can’t read must just be scum?

 

[a fairy]

Will not be commenting on the rules thing again, but I will say that I don't think you've been 'antagonistic' towards me. I do think I disagree with your take on the AG situation but at least you posted your logic which is all I can ask at this stage, so ty for that.

yeah its not the best word but this is my first game since mod (iirc) and what i didnt want to do is pull a Cathy and remove parts of a post of someone i'm debating with

 

[ImaginaryNeon]

Vote Zippy
idk just seems off

Also worth noting that tiger kinda seems obsessed with specifically finding the scumteam over just individual scum.

Not too relevant but still notable.

 

[ImaginaryNeon]

And I somehow almost gaslit myself into thinking Whydon was in this game because of the WW sheet remake I've been working on the last few days.

 

[ZippyDoo200]

What stupid stuff have I argued

Are you saying you townread everyone else in the game therefore the 2 players you can’t read must just be scum?

No but i find you to be the clearly playing your scum game.

 

[Celever]

And I somehow almost gaslit myself into thinking Whydon was in this game because of the WW sheet remake I've been working on the last few days.

Could we see Zippy’s sheets? Both reads and read bys

 

[Celever]

Kind of mentally noted tiger fixating on scumteams and chalked it up to a playstyle quirk, it is reasonable if from a party game background to scumhunt even more based on interactions than on forum

 

[ZippyDoo200]

i think realiti blazade and ag are my strongest trs.

 

[ImaginaryNeon]

Could we see Zippy’s sheets? Both reads and read bys

 

[pulsar512b]

Does Indie know who 3p is

arent indie and 3p the same person? unless you mean to ask if the scumteam and the indie know each other in which case the answer is no both directions

 

[pulsar512b]

Current votecount as of post 1677

Rostam (3) - Blazade, Tigershark/genius1, UncleSam
pulsar512b (3) - Ehmcee, Rostam, ZippyDoo200
Aura Guardian (3) - Celever, pulsar512b, skippergamez
Unclesam (1) - Aura Guardian

Deadline in approximately 6 hours. Will this village continue their peaceful ways and tie the vote again? Only time will tell.

i dont rly see Celever, but i dont mind being on AG, Rostam, or UncleSam. All else being equal i think i dislike unclesam's posting more, but i trust JALMONT a lot on Rostam. AG on posting alone is between Rostam and UncleSam, so i think theres no reason to vote him.

so its a matter of if i vote the more individually suspect person or the one who got pointed to.

vote Rostam
very willing to swap back, but I trust JALMONT a lot and dont trust myself as much

 

[ZippyDoo200]

Looks like Celever has been trying to get me out all day, lol.

 

[ZippyDoo200]

very willing to swap back, but I trust JALMONT a lot and dont trust myself as much

Does this ever come from a town?

 

[Celever]

Looks like Celever has been trying to get me out all day, lol.

I said you were scummier than Rostam, who I townlean, once today lmao

 

[Celever]

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ty, the progression on Zippy is interesting. part of what I was interested in was what skipper had said about him because I knew me and pulsar had scumread him at various points, skipper only nullreading him removes the "pure OMGUS" theory but there's very little content Zippy actually provides with which to do anything so eh. And actually when town Zippy OMGUSes pretty hard and I think he kind of is still OMGUSing here, but less narrowly than usual which probably looks bad for him. He's still refusing to participate in the same conversation that everyone else is having and calls it stupid instead, which is more typical of his town games than scum based on what we've seen, though not exclusive to it.

Zippy x Blazade relationship is notable. Zippy townread Blazade early D1, into scumreading him towards EoD (both as a scumteam and I think I remember him doing so just talking about Blazade individually once too), into townreading him again today. I remembered the scumread -> townread but learning he also opened the game townreading Blazade is noteworthy. Especially when you see Blazade reciprocated the early townread with a townlean on Zippy, before moving him to null later (which is fairly rare for a player to move from read back to null). Definite scumbud eq here.

 

[ZippyDoo200]

I said you were scummier than Rostam, who I townlean, once today lmao

I'm just looking at Neon's sheets.

We should probably still do pulsar in retrospect, it's unrealistic to think the wagon's would go to 6-6 if both were town.

I say do pulsar, since she's more wolf than not here. AG has been more out of their scum meta than pulsar.

 

[ZippyDoo200]

Celever making shit up.

If you are town, we can work together right here right now. But otherwise you gotta go.