Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3

[viivian]

what is making people think sneasler is not a 5 and merely a 3 or a 2? i would like answers please.

its the fastest sweeper in the game and is much stronger than past unburden sweepers such as hawlucha, plus dire claw can hax past its checks and counters if it procs sleep or para. sneasler has always been pretty cheesy but having a terrain setter like rillaboom really shows just how insane sneasler can be when it actually has good enablers, theres a reason why rillaboom/sneasler as a core has a 100% winrate in SCL. gliscor getting banned also does not help any DNB arguments you could make. just my take on the matter but i think this thing is absurdly strong and at times downright uncompetitive, neither of which are good for any metagame. so voting anything below a 4 for sneasler is ridiculous to me with all this in mind

 

[YubelVT]

5 -- It is broken with or without Dire Claw at this point. Unburden variants on Grassy Terrain offense with Tera Ghost and Tera Fly are ridiculous. I would even support a quickban if it has a big majority as it does not add anything to the metagame aside from Toxic Spikes soaking, but it is a substantial pain in the ass to teambuilders across each playstyle. I would be fine with a suspect, too, and ultimately will defer to the results, but I am a firm 5 and believe this among the most broken things right now.

4 or 5 -- I think this Pokemon is troublesome for a few reasons. First seems to be the Good as Gold dynamic in the tier, but truthfully while this is important and Spikes are still great, I do not find this to be the only reason or necessarily enough alone to ban it. However, NP + Recover, especially with a defensive Tera, almost forces Ruination Ting Lu (or one of a handful of other Pokemon) on balance or you to just use offense that keeps the pressure up. A bad Pokemon could have Good as Gold and it would be whatever -- viable for sure, but not enough to break the game. But Gholdengo is an elite Pokemon doing nasty things and even dictating some style patterns, so I think it deserves a suspect if we have the time and support personally.

4 -- I have voted ban on this before and it is just as good now despite more Pokemon being around. It is playable, but not the most healthy presence and can snowball into something unreasonable. I still firmly believe one day a suspect (and hopeful ban) will come here. Not sure if it will be before DLC2, but we must keep it in discussions.

3 as it is very cheesy and adds a bit of restriction in a sense that it forces a lot of pressure, a convenient Encore user, Unaware, or at least a timely Tera depending on the set and context a lot, which can strain building. I do not find it the most pressing and it is playable at least, so I do not mind waiting it out until DLC2 here.

2 or 3 -- very potent offensively, but hazards can limit it and I feel Amoonguss, Rillaboom, and some other forms of checking it are at good enough spots now. Everything can be abused by certain lines from Ogerpon-Wellspring and its teammates though and there is a ton going for it, so while entry may be limited, I would understand why some push for a suspect for sure and would never give it that much lower than this.

Sneasler: 5 -- I've been quite vocal in my opinion that sneasler is dumb as fuck, and have been for quite a while. With the recent realization of the masses that dire claw on the unburden set is unnecessary and could be replaced with a move that hits gholdengo (you aren't breaking through fat with just sneasler stop fucking trying), it's gone from insane to obscene and shouldn't have been allowed in the tier for nearly as long as it has been.

Gholdengo: 5 -- This french fry is a really good offensive presence, a really good defensive presence, and is the main reason hazard removal is almost fucking impossible. He's gotta go

Kingambit: 5 -- gliscor was banned on the same margin that kept this guy in the tier, anything else I could say has already been said by better players than I

Manaphy: 4 -- Manaphy is incredible and I wouldn't be shocked if it was ousted from the tier, but I don't think it's the most broken thing in the world.
Waterpon: 3 -- Good pokemon, can be hard to deal with but things like Rillaboom and any tera grass physical wall handle it pretty well. Not the most broken thing in the tier but potentially worth looking at if other things get banned

I’m still surprised it’s the unburdened set that’s making sneasler broken rather than the poison touch Dire claw set. We al knew sneasler was broken once home came it was just one of those things it needed the right conditions.

The unburden set is what makes sneasler so broken because you have to assume it's the unburden set whenever you see it, especially if its paired with a Rillaboom. Until it's revealed to be something else, you need to play in a way that doesn't let it come in for free and proc whatever item it has (grassy seed is the only good unburden item stop using white herb or balloon) so you don't instantly lose. This is completely different from how you need to handle the utility set and as such, you'll probably be on the backfoot if that sneasler on the other team happens to be said poison touch dire claw set. Getting the wrong thing poisoned, such as great tusk, or getting an offensive threat put to sleep or paralyzed can just be the end of the game.

 

[RaikouLover]

Enjoyability: 2/10
Balance: 2/10

I think the council is doing a great job. Gen 9 just still feels like a joke to me. Game Freak just broke this game. They were smoking something since last Gen.

Gholdengo: 2/5
String cheese man is fine. Net positive.

Sneasler: 4/5
I still think this mon is dogshit. However, it is uncompetitive dogshit. Thick daddy Zapdos is getting trolled. Not uncommon for it to be 1v1ed for a loss thanks to Dire Claw. This guy is no world beater but he can kick rocks.

Kingambit: 5/5
Joke of a mon.

Manaphy: 3/5
More cheesey than good.

Ogerpon-W: 5/5
Fuck this thing.

Other things to look into:
Garganacl. Pure cancer. Busted af.

 

[kos parasite]

If you think kingambit needs to go but sneasler is okay then please put me in touch with your family provider because I need some of that juice.

 

[Finchinator]

Thick daddy Zapdos is getting trolled. Not uncommon for it to be 1v1ed for a loss thanks to Dire Claw.

Gunk Shot at +2 frequently kills Zapdos, always killing variants that aren’t heavily physically defense invested and even having a chance to kill them. It also lives Hurricane after Tera. Much better than Dire Claw into it.

 

[YubelVT]

Gunk Shot at +2 frequently kills Zapdos, always killing variants that aren’t heavily physically defense invested and even having a chance to kill them. It also lives Hurricane after Tera. Much better than Dire Claw into it.

This is also assuming that zapdos comes in before the SD, or hits the hurricane, or predicts correctly that the sneasler teras on that turn. Defensive Zapdos is 2hko'd by CC at +2 (+2 252+ Atk Sneasler Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 104 Def Zapdos: 219-258 (57 - 67.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO) and, if static doesn't proc, or the zapdos predicts wrong, or just misses it's cane, the game is likely over at that point. Gunk Shot isn't even necessary, but it is extremely nice to not play zaptres roulette

Sneasler: 4/5
I still think this mon is dogshit. However, it is uncompetitive dogshit. Thick daddy Zapdos is getting trolled. Not uncommon for it to be 1v1ed for a loss thanks to Dire Claw. This guy is no world beater but he can kick rocks.
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Other things to look into:
Garganacl. Pure cancer. Busted af.

Both of these takes are insane for different reasons. For a bit now it's been consensus that dire claw is not good on unburden sets, and that slot is better served by an anti gholdengo move, and again, you have to have so much RNG go right to beat sneasler with Zapdos if you don't come in while it's at +0, along with winning a mind game. Sneasler is genuinely insane and obscene because the 2 best sets play completely different and have completely different checks, and you always have to assume it's the unburden set or risk losing immediately if you lose initiative at a bad time. Using your own spread, you have to keep Zapdos above 50% health and/or keep it from getting knocked to not get 2hko'd by a resisted fighting move. Onto your garg take, brother just build with him in mind. Salt Cure is a dumb move but pure rock typing is not good

 

[RaikouLover]

Gunk Shot at +2 frequently kills Zapdos, always killing variants that aren’t heavily physically defense invested and even having a chance to kill them. It also lives Hurricane after Tera. Much better than Dire Claw into it.

I run maximum physical bulk. I mainly take issue with the Dire Claw cheese. I’d actually prefer they just use gunk that is at least competitive.

+2 252+ Atk Sneasler Gunk Shot vs. 248 HP / 244+ Def Zapdos: 348-409 (90.8 - 106.7%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO

 

[Finchinator]

I run maximum physical bulk. I mainly take issue with the Dire Claw cheese. I’d actually prefer they just use gunk that is at least competitive.

+2 252+ Atk Sneasler Gunk Shot vs. 248 HP / 244+ Def Zapdos: 348-409 (90.8 - 106.7%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO

It’s really not super competitive when you realize all of the counterplay to Sneasler has a greater chance of evaporating to Gunk Shot than Dire Claw, which is more common on SD Unburden variants at this point. Both are plenty viable though and obviously Dire Claw is a diabolically good move, but Gunk is oftentimes the play. Either way it’s broken

 

[viivian]

If you think kingambit needs to go but sneasler is okay then please put me in touch with your family provider because I need some of that juice.

thinking kingambit is still problematic is completely valid but downplaying sneasler in any way, shape or form is absurd. it is so clearly a problem and if anyone cant see that then that is on them

Gunk Shot at +2 frequently kills Zapdos, always killing variants that aren’t heavily physically defense invested and even having a chance to kill them. It also lives Hurricane after Tera. Much better than Dire Claw into it.

even if sneasler is running dire claw and not gunk shot you also have to hope it doesnt proc dire claw status and hope that you hit the hurricane and that it doesnt burn tera to survive, or at the very least hope that static procs if all else fails. there is not a single honest or non-volatile interaction within this matchup, its crazy

 

[qways]

:4. Its Hawlucha on Steroids. The current meta also favours it, since it can sweep ho teams the easiest.

:5. The most meta warping mon. It not only blocks hazard removal but is also a balance killer with its np+ recover set, since slower mons cant status it.

:4. just a bit too much bulk and power.

:2. too slow and not enough base power to be broken imo.

:3. not broken rigth now, but migth be a problem if gholdengo goes. But migth also turn out fine not sure here.

 

[Da Pizza Man]

thinking kingambit is still problematic is completely valid but downplaying sneasler in any way, shape or form is absurd. it is so clearly a problem and if anyone cant see that then that is on them

You have it the other way around. He was saying sneasler is problematic and is downplaying Kingambit.

 

[RaikouLover]

It’s really not super competitive when you realize all of the counterplay to Sneasler has a greater chance of evaporating to Gunk Shot than Dire Claw, which is more common on SD Unburden variants at this point. Both are plenty viable though and obviously Dire Claw is a diabolically good move, but Gunk is oftentimes the play. Either way it’s broken

I am not defending Sneasler, I gave it a 4. I mostly take issue with the uncompetitiveness nature of Dire Claw and that is my reasoning. Sneasler plays very much like Hawlucha of the past, but with the added elements of hax (uncompetitive) and Tera (everyone knows how I feel). I won’t cry any tears when it becomes the 20th ban.

 

[viivian]

You have it the other way around. He was saying sneasler is problematic and is downplaying Kingambit.

i was agreeing with him sire. specifically in regards to sneasler being problematic, i dont see how kingambit isnt an issue

:5. The most meta warping mon. It not only blocks hazard removal but is also a balance killer with its np+ recover set, since slower mons cant status it.

genuine question, why is gholdengo still viewed as high priority for a suspect test/QB? im not saying it isnt problematic but i dont think its anywhere near as pressing as all the other pokemon featured on the survey, especially now that gliscor has been banned. a lot of other spikes setters have been on a decline as of late and without gliscor around hazards are much less of a problem than they were prior to the ban, and i dont think sticky web as a playstyle is dominant enough to push gholdengo over the edge. stall/balance have also fallen off, two playstyles which gholdengo matched very well into, whereas more offensive teams that can run it over have only become more and more common as of late. an eye should be kept on it for sure, but nothing worth immediate action in my opinion. nothing against you or your take on the matter of course, just noticed how common this sentiment is in general and wanted to know why

 

[658Greninja]

4/5: I’ve seen this shit live Headlong Rush from Tusk. Sometimes you need both Tusk and Cinder to keep hazards out. I don’t know about you but teams should not need two-slots just to keep hazards out, no matter how good those two are on a game-to-game basis. Keeping your Boots Spam team from getting Knock is ironically harder with Gliscor gone since they lost a great Knock absorber. While removing hazards is more doable since most of the common spike setters lack longevity, we still need to remove one crucial piece of the metagame. Or pray for Defog distribution to be reverted.

5/5: This thing has no counters whatsoever besides Dozo/Dirge which risk getting haxed by Dire Claw. Tera Dark and Flying are equally bs and it doesn’t have the same 4mss like other setup sweepers such as Dnite or Wogre. We should’ve known from the start that a base 130 atk/120 speed mon with Unburden would be problematic, what was GF cooking with these spreads? Fr.

4/5: Ironically Gambit dodged suspects this meta cause of the other broken shit surrounding it. Just like its ability. Checking Gambit is rarely ever about being able to tank a hit and OHKO it back cause of Tera. Now it is about crippling it with Burns/Para and Encoring it for clicking Sucker or SD. Yes you can force an early Gambit switch and chip it down. Yes you can win if you preserve your Encore user, but there are very few Encore users that can tank a stray hit from it. Gambit has 135 Atk btw, and with Supreme Overlord that shit is still trucking you unboosted. Lum or Tera Fire can also make counterplay like Wisp Tran, Pult, Cinder, and Molt irrelevant. Tusk is pigeonholed into running more offensive spreads cause of Ghold and Gambit itself is harder to wear down thanks to Wish support from Clef/Mola and Terrain from Rillaboom. Unfortunately it’s likely not gonna get touched on until DLC2 cause of Sneasler but it should be looked at regardless.

3/5: Its incredibly hard to wall, but Manaphy has always been this way since ORAS and USUM. These metas have a ton of offensive threats that can threaten big damage or OHKOs on its solid 100/100/100 bulk. Its no different this gen, in fact this gen introduced more horsepower. Manaphy also has mediocre damage output without a boost unlike other setup sweepers who have insane offensive prailess either way. Stuff like Specs Pult, Specs Enam, Specs Wake, Specs Valiant, Wogre, Zama, etc have enough horsepower and speed to heavily cripple or straight up kill it. However with the unpredictable nature of Tera, I could see this thing become a problem with further bans in the future, but right now, it’s fine.

2/5: This thing is actually pretty kino. I’d say counterplay vs Wogre is quite diverse and it has flaws that keep it from destroying the meta. It can’t hold a Choice Scarf to make it faster or Boots to prevent hazard damage. Wogre also has a ton of moves it wants on its moveset but can never fit them all. Water/Grass also has more checks than Fire/Grass. Rilla is very common rn and can 1v1 it most of the time, or straight up one shot it with Tera Grass G-Glide. Amoonguss walls both STABs and is only threatened by the incredibly rare Zen Headbutt. Pult can often threaten with fast wisps and Dnite is a tanky boy. You also have other checks like Zama and Mandi, plus Tera Grass/Dragon is abundant in the meta, some part due to Rilla. Top tier mon, but flawed in a couple areas.

 

[apoteosis]

5/5: Do we all agree that this thing should be suspected, at least, once Gliscor was out? Anyways, Gholdengo is cool but broken. BAN!

1/5: Sleep hax 16% lol stop crying. Without tera is walled by so many things. Underperforms in non-terrain teams. If you choose to use gunk shot instead of dire claw, it's because: a) you are in a grassy terrain team that is walled by zapdos; b) you used the wrong move. Sneasler is cheese, one-trick pony, walled by so many physical walls, not to mention intimidate shenaningans. NO BAN.

2/5: Not so strong right now.

1/5: lol manaphy.

5/5: this thing is stupid, period. Proof that the problem with this gen is not tera, but power creep.

 

[qways]

genuine question, why is gholdengo still viewed as high priority for a suspect test/QB? im not saying it isnt problematic but i dont think its anywhere near as pressing as all the other pokemon featured on the survey, especially now that gliscor has been banned. a lot of other spikes setters have been on a decline as of late and without gliscor around hazards are much less of a problem than they were prior to the ban, and i dont think sticky web as a playstyle is dominant enough to push gholdengo over the edge. stall/balance have also fallen off, two playstyles which gholdengo matched very well into, whereas more offensive teams that can run it over have only become more and more common as of late. an eye should be kept on it for sure, but nothing worth immediate action in my opinion. nothing against you or your take on the matter of course, just noticed how common this sentiment is in general and wanted to know why

You said it yourself, balance isnt common and gholdengo matches up well against it. Some people like me think that gholdengo migth be a if not the main reason balance does poorly rigth now and i favour a ban to improve balance as a playstyle.

 

[viivian]

how does that disprove what i said? it has less good team matchups now that gliscor has been banned and its effects on the metagame have given gholdengo the perfect environment to thrive in. without it, its substantially less suffocating to deal with. i can understand wanting it banned to improve balance, however. but the playstyle has always found itself at a low point this generation for reasons not just pertaining to the presence of gholdengo (though it is a massive contributor). it is not of utmost concern in my eyes, there is far more we have left to deal with that should take priority over gholdengo

1/5: Sleep hax 16% lol stop crying. Without tera is walled by so many things. Underperforms in non-terrain teams. If you choose to use gunk shot instead of dire claw, it's because: a) you are in a grassy terrain team that is walled by zapdos; b) you used the wrong move. Sneasler is cheese, one-trick pony, walled by so many physical walls, not to mention intimidate shenaningans. NO BAN.

contrary to what youre trying to suggest, without tera it is only walled by three pokemon and none of them can handle common sneasler teammates such as rillaboom or heatran. its not walled by much at all, and anything that does wall it can either risks getting haxxed by dire claw status or dealt with beforehand by its teammates

 

[Eeveeto]

5/5: Do we all agree that this thing should be suspected, at least, once Gliscor was out? Anyways, Gholdengo is cool but broken. BAN!

1/5: Sleep hax 16% lol stop crying. Without tera is walled by so many things. Underperforms in non-terrain teams. If you choose to use gunk shot instead of dire claw, it's because: a) you are in a grassy terrain team that is walled by zapdos; b) you used the wrong move. Sneasler is cheese, one-trick pony, walled by so many physical walls, not to mention intimidate shenaningans. NO BAN.

2/5: Not so strong right now.

1/5: lol manaphy.

5/5: this thing is stupid, period. Proof that the problem with this gen is not tera, but power creep.

Me reading about first 2 Mons: Wow, some incredibly based opinions, something to be expected from someone with Hippo avatar.

Me reading the rest: Never mind, should change avatar to a

 

[Welcome to mars]

Heres my opinions on the survey which may or may have not released at the right time for my secret plan to unfold

5- already explained a million times how its Ruining the tier with his pet bee thingie, its actually suffocating to deal with simply because of webs, webs are a gimmick ,but because of this pest, its a ladder dominating playstyle, when webs can’t be removed at all, its allowing already fast mons like moth and wellspring to go monke mode on your team, get him OUT

1- hot take but i still stand by what i said last time since my two main teams still prevent it from sweeping, he chill for now

2- so it turns out even with 2+ defense max evs, rillaboom still slam dunks manaphy, tail glow has died out in favour of a crit me not sweeper approach he can stay, infact im planning to use him as my new roaring moon, my new volcarona, my new cosmic power clefable

4- this pokemon is luck based and with tera, its a flat out menace, but the fake votes basically mean no action on landos best man

4- ive lowered my vote on shrek just because ghold needs to be at the top of the votes for the health of our meta, but it still ruins defensive cores and lets hyper offense run wild, tapu lele was never on her level and heartflame should remain banned after dlc 2

iron valiant is fine, just get yourself a corviknight

 

[YubelVT]

5/5: Do we all agree that this thing should be suspected, at least, once Gliscor was out? Anyways, Gholdengo is cool but broken. BAN!

1/5: Sleep hax 16% lol stop crying. Without tera is walled by so many things. Underperforms in non-terrain teams. If you choose to use gunk shot instead of dire claw, it's because: a) you are in a grassy terrain team that is walled by zapdos; b) you used the wrong move. Sneasler is cheese, one-trick pony, walled by so many physical walls, not to mention intimidate shenaningans. NO BAN.

2/5: Not so strong right now.

1/5: lol manaphy.

5/5: this thing is stupid, period. Proof that the problem with this gen is not tera, but power creep.

That sneasler take is so bad I thought I logged in on an alt to start shit without realizing.

Jokes aside the only good take here is gholdengo.

 

[heileone]

5/5: Do we all agree that this thing should be suspected, at least, once Gliscor was out? Anyways, Gholdengo is cool but broken. BAN!

1/5: Sleep hax 16% lol stop crying. Without tera is walled by so many things. Underperforms in non-terrain teams. If you choose to use gunk shot instead of dire claw, it's because: a) you are in a grassy terrain team that is walled by zapdos; b) you used the wrong move. Sneasler is cheese, one-trick pony, walled by so many physical walls, not to mention intimidate shenaningans. NO BAN.

2/5: Not so strong right now.

1/5: lol manaphy.

5/5: this thing is stupid, period. Proof that the problem with this gen is not tera, but power creep.

You can tell this guy never leaves home without his trusty dondozo. 2 best anti stall mons as 5/5.... hmmm

 

[CheesyBrie]

I'll (try) (EDIT: and fail) to keep this brief:
Enjoyable - 6. is so dumb. I'm actually having some fun spamming borderline mindless low-ladder grassy terrain unburden while actively working on other things. I'm literally barely paying attention clicking pivot moves to chip and set up to sweep with this thing. It's not a real team or anything interesting, so i won't bother sharing something I literally threw together to get some experience. I'm having fun, but only because I don't have to put in any effort or thought whatsoever. Most people just concede, sometimes even in team preview.

Competitive - 3. As mentioned above, just makes playing at low-ladder completely mindless. And it doesn't stop at low level, because the better players know their checks, counters, and predictions to make it even worse. I think every team that isn't trying to be pure stall must run one or more of the pokemon on this tiering survey.

5. I hate it. Good as Gold? More like "Good as Riddance"

5. I was wrong when I was assessing this thing at first. I honestly didn't see how broken it was until I tried it. It's cheesier than the literal string cheese thing mentioned above. And it doesn't "need" grassy terrain setup to be good. There are other sets beyond just the straightforward one I've been using. Coverage options in Shadow Claw for ghosts, U-turn for banded pivots. I fully support any sort of suspect or QB on this thing.

5. Okay... seriously, this thing is not fair. Being able to reverse sweep an opposing team BECAUSE it's the last thing left is seriously messed up. Just... It feels AWFUL watching this thing. It feels like Sucker Punch is aimed directly at the trainer's face. It's massive offensively and defensively, with priority to play mind games on "what move is coming" and only a handful or ways to really wall or punish it. I think needs to go first, but I think the days are numbered for this thing.

3. I've barely seen or been afraid of this thing. I think (again, I'm low-ladder, so i know nothing) that Manaphy isn't a problem right now, because Grassy Terrain shenanigans are around. seems like a decent answer (I've been running Grassy Glide tera Grass, because lol). I think that Rilla's usage will go down once is gone, so maybe this will be more problematic in the future?

3. I think this is sort of in a weird spot, where it seems like a good answer to Manaphy, but also is a bit of a headache itself. Mega Ludicolo just does exactly what you expect it to do and then some. I think it causes some headaches for me, but I'm not ready to stop playing just because I see one on the enemy team.

Other: I actually said Booster Energy. I was iffy on it last time I saw it on the survey, but I think it really does have a long-term affect on a number of the paradoxes in the tier. I'm also wary of how it might impact the upcoming DLC, but tbh that is definitely getting ahead of myself.

Anyways, hope everyone has a great day!

 

[apoteosis]

contrary to what youre trying to suggest, without tera it is only walled by three pokemon and none of them can handle common sneasler teammates such as rillaboom or heatran. its not walled by much at all, and anything that does wall it can either risks getting haxxed by dire claw status or dealt with beforehand by its teammates

Lando-T, Pex, Dozo, Moltres, Zapdos, Corvi, defensive Dengo, defensive tusk, tera clef, etc.

Yeah that's three. Nice try.

 

[KamenOH]

1, how do i add mons

2:

Ghold? 1 or 2. Provides great utility against defoggers, is a solid anti ghost and anti fairy Special Attacker.

Sneasler? 2 definitely. Unburden is iffy but thats more Rillaboom's fault for enabling it in the first place.

Manaphy? 1. Great wallbreaker, just wish it didnt break my walls. Psych Up goes hard against it if you aren't stupid with it.

Kingambit? 1. This GOAT is a reliable clutch sweeper, but its burdened by its reliance on tera to switch up on the opponent.

Woger? 2. Nice physical breaker, nuff said.

Balance? 8 or so, but thats me applying my sense of balance, which might run contrary to the wider community. Dunno why we trust a community, but we do.

Enjoyment? 7. Seeing a rise in slower, less enjoyable play styles, which aren't ever fun to play against.

 

[heileone]

Lando-T, Pex, Dozo, Moltres, Zapdos, Corvi, defensive Dengo, defensive tusk, tera clef, etc.

Yeah that's three. Nice try.

Pex and dozo are the only ones on that list that wall it.
+2 252+ Atk Sneasler Close Combat vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Corviknight: 300-354 (75.1 - 88.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252+ Atk Sneasler Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tera Water Clefable: 378-445 (95.9 - 112.9%) -- 75% chance to OHKO

Tusk and dengo die to acro and shadow claw. Zapdos and moltres blown up by +2 gunk shot.
You forgot the third viable wall though, tera dirge.