SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

Honestly the second DLC seems a bit lame, but I do like the idea of tougher battles and doubles. He seems to imply there are no towns, which makes me think it will be like the bland expansive areas of the main game. Which were the weakest part. Though the towns do tend to be click fests.

Tougher battles and doubles certainly sounds like fun though. That is where most of the fun in these games are. I liked the battle tower/mansions in previous games. Those are great for when you don't have a stable connection and this being a mobile game, I would think that would be a must have feature.
Of course there are no towns? The entire DLC takes place at the Blueberry Academy, an artificial island in the middle of the ocean.

Why would a school have towns in their basement?
 
Honestly the second DLC seems a bit lame, but I do like the idea of tougher battles and doubles. He seems to imply there are no towns, which makes me think it will be like the bland expansive areas of the main game. Which were the weakest part. Though the towns do tend to be click fests.

Tougher battles and doubles certainly sounds like fun though. That is where most of the fun in these games are. I liked the battle tower/mansions in previous games. Those are great for when you don't have a stable connection and this being a mobile game, I would think that would be a must have feature.
The preview implied that the overworld is a lot more interesting and fun to explore than Paldea and there were even some shots of a platforming segment leading up to the top of a cliff
 
As much as I’d like it to come back as one as well, I’m betting that it won’t because they added it to Lurantis as an Egg Move in the Teal Mask, which isn’t something they’d have to do if they were going to make it a TM anyway.
And? Prior to SwSh's moveset fuckery plenty of Pokémon had moves in their egg move pool that they learned via TM or even level up. Some of which were added to both at exactly the same time. Hell, they added Dual Wingbeat to Salamence's level up pool in the base game and then it became a TM with TM. All it being in Lurantis' egg move pool means is that they wanted Lurantis to have it from day 1. Also Lurantis always had Superpower as an egg move in base SV.
 
And? Prior to SwSh's moveset fuckery plenty of Pokémon had moves in their egg move pool that they learned via TM or even level up. Some of which were added to both at exactly the same time. Hell, they added Dual Wingbeat to Salamence's level up pool in the base game and then it became a TM with TM. All it being in Lurantis' egg move pool means is that they wanted Lurantis to have it from day 1. Also Lurantis always had Superpower as an egg move in base SV.
No? I very clearly remember a lot of people being disappointed that Lurantis lost Superpower at the beginning of Gen 9
 
And? Prior to SwSh's moveset fuckery plenty of Pokémon had moves in their egg move pool that they learned via TM or even level up. Some of which were added to both at exactly the same time. Hell, they added Dual Wingbeat to Salamence's level up pool in the base game and then it became a TM with TM. All it being in Lurantis' egg move pool means is that they wanted Lurantis to have it from day 1. Also Lurantis always had Superpower as an egg move in base SV.
It couldn't learn Superpower in SV until the 2.0.1 update
 
Honestly the second DLC seems a bit lame, but I do like the idea of tougher battles and doubles. He seems to imply there are no towns, which makes me think it will be like the bland expansive areas of the main game. Which were the weakest part. Though the towns do tend to be click fests.

Tougher battles and doubles certainly sounds like fun though. That is where most of the fun in these games are. I liked the battle tower/mansions in previous games. Those are great for when you don't have a stable connection and this being a mobile game, I would think that would be a must have feature.
Sir, you expect towns in a TERRARIUM UNDER THE WATER?
 
In his latest video, aDrive pointed out an old 4chan rumor that has lined up with a lot of the recent Riddler stuff but was posted beforehand. More dropping it for future reference rather than its current believability. Has claims regarding some new Pokemon's types, the 19th Tera type, and story/mythology.

  • Terapagos base form: Normal/Rock. Terapagos Tera-state: Dragon/Rock. Terapagos Ultima-state: Ultima type. When sent out into battle, the "little one" (Terapagos) transforms into its terastallized state form, however it can still terastallize once more. (Like Ultra Necrozma using Ultra Burst and a Z move). Terastallize-state Terapagos is tera locked like Ogerpon, but it is the only dual type Tera Pokemon, until it becomes Ultima-State.
  • All pokemon can terastallize into Ultima-Tera, and some change form like Terapagos. Ultima Tera functions as typless (Pawmi and Double Shock was a hint to this as it gets an Ultima Form Nemona can use in a battle facility, in post game). Ultima-Tera makes you lose your weakness, but aren't super effective with Ultima Terablast.
  • New pokemon. Dokutaro: Ghost/Poison. Hydrapplin: Grass/Dragon, Iron Hooves: Psychic/Rock, Royal Beast: Fire/Dragon. Mythical pokemon not in DLC: Ice/Poison serpent.
  • Story: Not very crazy, you just have to save some people possessed by Dokutaro in a sidequest but they all get saved at the end, except for Keiran who you battle at the end of Blueberry Academy once the Elite 4 is beaten. No more battle points, but you get League Points for defeating the Pokemon League over and over again.
  • Post-game DLC allows a new battle facility where you battle trainers at random and are locked to level 50. Keiran can sometime show up here now, and he is unpossessed. For the wifi battle pokemon, you can pay League Points to minimize IVs for a pokemon. Blueberry Academy is in Unova, but you can't explore the rest of Unova. Its location in Unova isnt even explained, you have to just accept it is there. The only cameo from Unova is Drayden in a hut once you beat his grandson in the post game. He gives you a Duraludon and you can evolve it into Archaludon.
  • As for Terapagos, Terapagos cannot be caught at first and the player tries to catch with Master Ball but fails. You have to earn its respect first and free it from another realm. The main story is in Blueberry Academy, but you have to explore some of Crystal Lake in Teal Mask and then return to Area Zero in mainland Paldea and free Terapagos there. Briar is there but not a huge role, its mainly you meeting people along the way who tell you hints and try and save this magical pokemon whos giving everyone visions of a scary past or future.
  • Terapagos created Area Zero and Herba Mystica 2000 years ago and terraformed it into the area zero we know now. Terapagos has the ability to forcefully evolve pokemon at will, but when uncontrolled, it leads to mutations such as Paradox Pokemon. Some Pokemon wandering Area Zero were transmuted into Paradox Pokemon, and ravaged Area Zero where Terapagos laid to rest in the center of it, feeding more energy to the Paradox Pokemon with the old supply of Herba Mystica.
  • Heath's Cyclizar was the first one to transmutate into Korai/Mirai and is what the player rides on.
 
In his latest video, aDrive pointed out an old 4chan rumor that has lined up with a lot of the recent Riddler stuff but was posted beforehand. More dropping it for future reference rather than its current believability. Has claims regarding some new Pokemon's types, the 19th Tera type, and story/mythology.

  • Terapagos base form: Normal/Rock. Terapagos Tera-state: Dragon/Rock. Terapagos Ultima-state: Ultima type. When sent out into battle, the "little one" (Terapagos) transforms into its terastallized state form, however it can still terastallize once more. (Like Ultra Necrozma using Ultra Burst and a Z move). Terastallize-state Terapagos is tera locked like Ogerpon, but it is the only dual type Tera Pokemon, until it becomes Ultima-State.
  • All pokemon can terastallize into Ultima-Tera, and some change form like Terapagos. Ultima Tera functions as typless (Pawmi and Double Shock was a hint to this as it gets an Ultima Form Nemona can use in a battle facility, in post game). Ultima-Tera makes you lose your weakness, but aren't super effective with Ultima Terablast.
  • New pokemon. Dokutaro: Ghost/poison. Hydrapplin: Grass/dragon, Iron Hooves: Psychic/Rock, Royal Beast: Fire/dragon. Mythical pokemon not in DLC: Ice/Poison serpent.
  • Story: Not very crazy, you just have to save some people possessed by Dokutaro in a sidequest but they all get saved at the end, except for Keiran who you battle at the end of Blueberry Academy once the Elite 4 is beaten. No more battle points, but you get League Points for defeating the Pokemon League over and over again.
  • Post-game DLC allows a new battle facility where you battle trainers at random and are locked to level 50. Keiran can sometime show up here now, and he is unpossessed. For the wifi battle pokemon, you can pay League Points to minimize IVs for a pokemon. Blueberry Academy is in Unova, but you can't explore the rest of Unova. Its location in Unova isnt even explained, you have to just accept it is there. The only cameo from Unova is Drayden in a hut once you beat his grandson in the post game. He gives you a Duraludon and you can evolve it into Archaludon.
  • As for Terapagos, Terapagos cannot be caught at first and the player tries to catch with Master Ball but fails. You have to earn its respect first and free it from another realm. The main story is in Blueberry Academy, but you have to explore some of Crystal Lake in Teal Mask and then return to Area Zero in mainland Paldea and free Terapagos there. Briar is there but not a huge role, its mainly you meeting people along the way who tell you hints and try and save this magical pokemon whos giving everyone visions of a scary past or future.
  • Terapagos created Area Zero and Herba Mystica 2000 years ago and terraformed it into the area zero we know now. Terapagos has the ability to forcefully evolve pokemon at will, but when uncontrolled, it leads to mutations such as Paradox Pokemon. Some Pokemon wandering Area Zero were transmuted into Paradox Pokemon, and ravaged Area Zero where Terapagos laid to rest in the center of it, feeding more energy to the Paradox Pokemon with the old supply of Herba Mystica.
  • Heath's Cyclizar was the first one to transmutate into Korai/Mirai and is what the player rides on.
super fake, see below
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The post also just never existed in the past under that text or its post ID as shown in the 2nd image. It's an edited image of a fake leak depicted in a fake post, which is a new layer of fake leaks.
 
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  • Terapagos base form: Normal/Rock. Terapagos Tera-state: Dragon/Rock. Terapagos Ultima-state: Ultima type. When sent out into battle, the "little one" (Terapagos) transforms into its terastallized state form, however it can still terastallize once more. (Like Ultra Necrozma using Ultra Burst and a Z move). Terastallize-state Terapagos is tera locked like Ogerpon, but it is the only dual type Tera Pokemon, until it becomes Ultima-State.
  • All pokemon can terastallize into Ultima-Tera, and some change form like Terapagos. Ultima Tera functions as typless (Pawmi and Double Shock was a hint to this as it gets an Ultima Form Nemona can use in a battle facility, in post game). Ultima-Tera makes you lose your weakness, but aren't super effective with Ultima Terablast.
  • New pokemon. Dokutaro: Ghost/Poison. Hydrapplin: Grass/Dragon, Iron Hooves: Psychic/Rock, Royal Beast: Fire/Dragon. Mythical pokemon not in DLC: Ice/Poison serpent.
  • Story: Not very crazy, you just have to save some people possessed by Dokutaro in a sidequest but they all get saved at the end, except for Keiran who you battle at the end of Blueberry Academy once the Elite 4 is beaten. No more battle points, but you get League Points for defeating the Pokemon League over and over again.
  • Post-game DLC allows a new battle facility where you battle trainers at random and are locked to level 50. Keiran can sometime show up here now, and he is unpossessed. For the wifi battle pokemon, you can pay League Points to minimize IVs for a pokemon. Blueberry Academy is in Unova, but you can't explore the rest of Unova. Its location in Unova isnt even explained, you have to just accept it is there. The only cameo from Unova is Drayden in a hut once you beat his grandson in the post game. He gives you a Duraludon and you can evolve it into Archaludon.
  • As for Terapagos, Terapagos cannot be caught at first and the player tries to catch with Master Ball but fails. You have to earn its respect first and free it from another realm. The main story is in Blueberry Academy, but you have to explore some of Crystal Lake in Teal Mask and then return to Area Zero in mainland Paldea and free Terapagos there. Briar is there but not a huge role, its mainly you meeting people along the way who tell you hints and try and save this magical pokemon whos giving everyone visions of a scary past or future.
  • Terapagos created Area Zero and Herba Mystica 2000 years ago and terraformed it into the area zero we know now. Terapagos has the ability to forcefully evolve pokemon at will, but when uncontrolled, it leads to mutations such as Paradox Pokemon. Some Pokemon wandering Area Zero were transmuted into Paradox Pokemon, and ravaged Area Zero where Terapagos laid to rest in the center of it, feeding more energy to the Paradox Pokemon with the old supply of Herba Mystica.
  • Heath's Cyclizar was the first one to transmutate into Korai/Mirai and is what the player rides on.
Yeah that made up crap was confirmed to be made up crap lol
 
In his latest video, aDrive pointed out an old 4chan rumor that has lined up with a lot of the recent Riddler stuff but was posted beforehand. More dropping it for future reference rather than its current believability. Has claims regarding some new Pokemon's types, the 19th Tera type, and story/mythology.

  • Terapagos base form: Normal/Rock. Terapagos Tera-state: Dragon/Rock. Terapagos Ultima-state: Ultima type. When sent out into battle, the "little one" (Terapagos) transforms into its terastallized state form, however it can still terastallize once more. (Like Ultra Necrozma using Ultra Burst and a Z move). Terastallize-state Terapagos is tera locked like Ogerpon, but it is the only dual type Tera Pokemon, until it becomes Ultima-State.
  • All pokemon can terastallize into Ultima-Tera, and some change form like Terapagos. Ultima Tera functions as typless (Pawmi and Double Shock was a hint to this as it gets an Ultima Form Nemona can use in a battle facility, in post game). Ultima-Tera makes you lose your weakness, but aren't super effective with Ultima Terablast.
  • New pokemon. Dokutaro: Ghost/Poison. Hydrapplin: Grass/Dragon, Iron Hooves: Psychic/Rock, Royal Beast: Fire/Dragon. Mythical pokemon not in DLC: Ice/Poison serpent.
  • Story: Not very crazy, you just have to save some people possessed by Dokutaro in a sidequest but they all get saved at the end, except for Keiran who you battle at the end of Blueberry Academy once the Elite 4 is beaten. No more battle points, but you get League Points for defeating the Pokemon League over and over again.
  • Post-game DLC allows a new battle facility where you battle trainers at random and are locked to level 50. Keiran can sometime show up here now, and he is unpossessed. For the wifi battle pokemon, you can pay League Points to minimize IVs for a pokemon. Blueberry Academy is in Unova, but you can't explore the rest of Unova. Its location in Unova isnt even explained, you have to just accept it is there. The only cameo from Unova is Drayden in a hut once you beat his grandson in the post game. He gives you a Duraludon and you can evolve it into Archaludon.
  • As for Terapagos, Terapagos cannot be caught at first and the player tries to catch with Master Ball but fails. You have to earn its respect first and free it from another realm. The main story is in Blueberry Academy, but you have to explore some of Crystal Lake in Teal Mask and then return to Area Zero in mainland Paldea and free Terapagos there. Briar is there but not a huge role, its mainly you meeting people along the way who tell you hints and try and save this magical pokemon whos giving everyone visions of a scary past or future.
  • Terapagos created Area Zero and Herba Mystica 2000 years ago and terraformed it into the area zero we know now. Terapagos has the ability to forcefully evolve pokemon at will, but when uncontrolled, it leads to mutations such as Paradox Pokemon. Some Pokemon wandering Area Zero were transmuted into Paradox Pokemon, and ravaged Area Zero where Terapagos laid to rest in the center of it, feeding more energy to the Paradox Pokemon with the old supply of Herba Mystica.
  • Heath's Cyclizar was the first one to transmutate into Korai/Mirai and is what the player rides on.
Sorry to break it to ya, thats fake, fake as hell
Ah gotcha. Thanks for clarifying so quickly. Some of the details seemed reasonable to me on initial look.
This is why you look harder. Dont feel bad, we all make mistakes. It what makes us human
 
Of all that crap, honestly I find the ""Ultima Type"" probably close to what the 19th tera type is.

By now i'm assuming that it's not a new type at all and it's literally "Typeless", which actually already exists in the game, and is indeed neutral against everything.
 
Of all that crap, honestly I find the ""Ultima Type"" probably close to what the 19th tera type is.

By now i'm assuming that it's not a new type at all and it's literally "Typeless", which actually already exists in the game, and is indeed neutral against everything.
It’s not; they added data in the game for the new type, and it comes after typeless in the data, so it is different.
Jan actually translated what Khu (seemingly) confirmed the Chinese name of the type as. Which basically amounts to “Star Crystal”, which he mentions here:

https://x.com/hsinhsung9487/status/1725498600388432203?s=46&t=6mj12ZMcxrwabxxrx_0RIw

https://x.com/hsinhsung9487/status/1725499281711260144?s=46&t=6mj12ZMcxrwabxxrx_0RIw
This makes me doubt “ultima” type being its name, just a bit. Maybe something like “stellar” type or some descriptor for a brilliant crystal.
 
It’s not; they added data in the game for the new type, and it comes after typeless in the data, so it is different.
Jan actually translated what Khu (seemingly) confirmed the Chinese name of the type as. Which basically amounts to “Star Crystal”, which he mentions here:

https://x.com/hsinhsung9487/status/1725498600388432203?s=46&t=6mj12ZMcxrwabxxrx_0RIw

https://x.com/hsinhsung9487/status/1725499281711260144?s=46&t=6mj12ZMcxrwabxxrx_0RIw
This makes me doubt “ultima” type being its name, just a bit. Maybe something like “stellar” type or some descriptor for a brilliant crystal.
Ed Sheeran presents: Celestial Type
 
It’s not; they added data in the game for the new type, and it comes after typeless in the data, so it is different.
Jan actually translated what Khu (seemingly) confirmed the Chinese name of the type as. Which basically amounts to “Star Crystal”, which he mentions here:

https://x.com/hsinhsung9487/status/1725498600388432203?s=46&t=6mj12ZMcxrwabxxrx_0RIw

https://x.com/hsinhsung9487/status/1725499281711260144?s=46&t=6mj12ZMcxrwabxxrx_0RIw
This makes me doubt “ultima” type being its name, just a bit. Maybe something like “stellar” type or some descriptor for a brilliant crystal.
Tbh, I didn't mean "literally" the Typeless type, just as the way it worked.

Ok actually I meant literally, but I still expect it to work exactly like typeless, cause honestly everything else would be hilariously overpowered and defeat the entire purpose of Terastal mechanic being a choice.
 
On that note, I think its kinda interesting how Terapagos' small form is named "Terapagos-Normal" considering this is specifically a Pokémon related to types, considering Normal is usually given to mutable mons (See: Castform, Silvally, Sawsbuck, Arceus, Ditto), and how almost no other base form in the series is named "Normal". You have things such as Darmanitan-Standard or Meloetta-Aria but the only other mon whose base form is named Normal is Deoxys (which was quite literally the first ever time they named a base form)

All this to say two things - Small Terapagos is likely a Normal Type and the Biggest Terapagos form might be named after the 19th tera type (So Terapagos-"Star Crystal" or whatever)
 
Tbh, I didn't mean "literally" the Typeless type, just as the way it worked.

Ok actually I meant literally, but I still expect it to work exactly like typeless, cause honestly everything else would be hilariously overpowered and defeat the entire purpose of Terastal mechanic being a choice.
I think it's going to be overpowered because the alternative, no stab and no weakness/resistances, is too lame for the fanciful 19th typing that has a special rainbow crown showing off all the types and likely associated with the 680+ BST terapagos.

It's going to be the last big change to the meta alongside adding restricted Pokemon for the next 2 years, it's going to be OP for sure.
 
I think it's going to be overpowered because the alternative, no stab and no weakness/resistances, is too lame for the fanciful 19th typing that has a special rainbow crown showing off all the types and likely associated with the 680+ BST terapagos.

It's going to be the last big change to the meta alongside adding restricted Pokemon for the next 2 years, it's going to be OP for sure.
I'm actually predicting that Terapagos-Terastal's ability (possibly combined with the 19th Tera type) is so powerful that Terapagos-T will have less than 680 BST (maybe even as low as 600 BST). The nerfed-Zacian-BST is for less powerful abilities such as "Embody Aspect but for Def and SpDef Only"; the 600 BST is for overpowered abilities such as "Embody Aspect but Omniboost".

I'm personally not betting on a 3rd Terapagos form you can bring to local battles. If Terapagos gets a 3rd form, I'm betting it's in story battles only, just like Eternamax (or Titans, etc.).

I'm now imagining that, given probable Chinese names for the 19th Tera type (the Chinese name starting with the Chinese for "star" is especially believable), that type's English name will be...wait for it..."Terastar".
 
It couldn't learn Superpower in SV until the 2.0.1 update
Yeah exactly, I know my stuff! My point was that if they added it back to Lurantis’ egg movepool in the Teal Mask update well into when they had the Indigo Disk TMs planned out, then I personally think there’s a strong chance they wouldn’t have bothered if they knew that they were gonna add it back as a TM in a few months anyway. It would have been different if it was an egg move since launch.
 
think it's going to be overpowered because the alternative, no stab and no weakness/resistances, is too lame for the fanciful 19th typing that has a special rainbow crown showing off all the types and likely associated with the 680+ BST terapagos.
To be honest, "full neutral" is *already* overpowered as is.
Pretty much any fast strong attacker would love to just have a move they can click and hit everything, and assuming Tera Blast keeps "stab" on it, you're just firing off 120 BP hits on everything regardless of their type.

Main reason I fear that kind of choice is that we already know it's not "locked to terapagos" from the trailers.
If it was locked to him, I'd not care, but I sincerely hope they don't want VGC where every single pokemon in every team that isnt Ogerpon has the 19th tera type and everything else is irrelephant.
 
To be honest, "full neutral" is *already* overpowered as is.
Pretty much any fast strong attacker would love to just have a move they can click and hit everything, and assuming Tera Blast keeps "stab" on it, you're just firing off 120 BP hits on everything regardless of their type.

Main reason I fear that kind of choice is that we already know it's not "locked to terapagos" from the trailers.
If it was locked to him, I'd not care, but I sincerely hope they don't want VGC where every single pokemon in every team that isnt Ogerpon has the 19th tera type and everything else is irrelephant.
I suspect the "offest" will be you can only have one super tera assigned to a Pokemon at a time.
 
I suspect the "offest" will be you can only have one super tera assigned to a Pokemon at a time.
That'd honestly be... less tragic, still offers choice, and expecially when it comes to restricted format, there's actually some degree of skill on opting which mon to give it and which to have regular teras on.

Regardless of how insane the damage calc are, a tera ghost calyrex plays significantly differently than a "ultima tera" calyrex
 
I suspect the "offest" will be you can only have one super tera assigned to a Pokemon at a time.
Part of me is even betting that you have to stuff your Terapagos into your Tera Orb in order to use the 19th Tera type on any mon but Terapagos. (The usual loopholes apply when you have more than one Terapagos.)

...With that, there's the possibility that stuffing your Terapagos into your Tera Orb results in all your Pokemon being locked into the 19th Tera type and you being unable to Tera Grass/etc. (Heaven knows what happens to Ogerpon in this case.)
 
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