I find the fake leaks are still useful for preserving the fan base's speculation and guesses. I'll note that, even with that metric, Ursaluna-BloodMoon being a special attacker caught everyone off-guard.
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It's upsetting that fake leaks can't even bother to be consistent with official flavour or info for their move descriptions.
Vigoroth has BST of 440, and we all know what that evolves into, dont we.
Y'all forgetting Sky Drop was removed in Gen 9?
Definitely Localized
Also, is no one talking about a supposed TM for Snap Trap? Ynow, the Grass Type signature move of the Ground/Steel type Galarian Stunfisk?
That wasnt the red flag for me, it was TM Snap Trap
- Archaludon
- Typing: Steel / Dragon
- Abilities: Stamina / Sturdy / Stalwart
- HP / ATK / DEF / SPA / SPD / SPE
- 85 / 105 / 120 / 125 / 65 / 55
- • Electro Shot:
- Type: Electric
- Category: Special
- Power: 130
- Accuracy: 90%
- Description:
- _ The user charges energy and boosts its Sp. Atk stat on the first turn, then fires an electric blast on the next turn.
- Distribution:
- _ Alolan Golem
- _ Magnezone
- _ Zekrom
- _ Genesect
- _ Charjabug
- _ Vikavolt
- _ Archaludon
- _ Iron Tines
- • Hard Press
- Type: Steel
- Category: Physical
- Power: ---
- Accuracy: 100%
- Description:
- _ The user attacks by slamming its body into the target. The more HP the target has left, the greater the move's power.
- (Natural) Distribution:
- _ Tyranitar
- _ Hariyama
- _ Beldum
- _ Metang
- _ Metagross
- _ Probopass
- _ Rhyperior
- _ Heatran
- _ Solgaleo
- _ Corviknight
- _ Tinkaton
- _ Kingambit
- _ Great Tusk
- _ Iron Treads
- _ Iron Hands
- _ Ting-Lu
- _ Iron Tines
- • Hold Still
- Type: Dark
- Category: Physical
- Power: 30
- Accuracy: 100%
- Desription:
- _ The user attacks first to suppress the target and make it go last, also trapping it in the process. It works only on the first turn each time the user enters battle.
- Distribution:
- _ Mankey
- _ Primeape
- _ Vigoroth
- _ Slaking
- _ Emboar
- _ Scraggy
- _ Scrafty
- _ Bisharp
- _ Incineroar
- _ Rillaboom
- _ Impidimp
- _ Morgrem
- _ Grimmsnarl
- _ Single Strike Style Urshifu
- _ Annihilape
- _ Kingambit
- _ Iron Hands
- _ Okidogi
- • Intoxicate
- Type: Ghost
- Category: Special
- Power: 95
- Accuracy: 90%
- Description:
- _ The user inflicts a strange toxin onto opposing Pokémon, dealing super effective damage against Fairy types. This may also leave them confused.
- Distribution:
- _ Doku Momo
- • Jewel Burst
- Type: Jewel
- Category: Special
- Power: 100
- Accuracy: 90%
- Description:
- _ The user's crystal shell shatters, shooting shards towards opposing Pokémon. This attack always deals super effective damage against any target.
- Distribution:
- _ Terapagos
- • Love Bite
- Type: Fairy
- Category: Physical
- Power: 60
- Accuracy: 100%
- Description:
- _ The user playfully bites the target. This does more damage if the target is of the opposite gender to the user.
- (Natural) Distribution:
- _ Growlithe
- _ Hisuian Growlithe
- _ Arcanine
- _ Hisuian Arcanine
- _ Sentret
- _ Furret
- _ Snubbull
- _ Granbull
- _ Whimsicott
- _ Minccino
- _ Cinccino
- _ Espurr
- _ Meowstic
- _ Bruxish
- _ Scream Tail
- • Psychic Noise
- Type: Psychic
- Category: Special
- Power: 85
- Accuracy: 95%
- Description:
- _ The user telepathically tortures the target with auditory hallucinations. This prevents the usage of any moves, Abilities, or held items that recover HP.
- (Natural) Distribution:
- _ Alolan Ninetales
- _ Galarian Articuno
- _ Ralts
- _ Kirlia
- _ Gardevoir
- _ Gallade
- _ Hisuian Zoroark
- _ Gothita
- _ Gothorita
- _ Gothitelle
- _ Hatenna
- _ Hattrem
- _ Hatterene
- _ Scream Tail
- _ Flutter Mane
- _ Munkidori
- • Supercharged Cell
- Type: Electric
- Category: Status
- Power: ---
- Accuracy: ---%
- Description:
- _ The user charges energy on the first turn, then boosts all its stats on the next turn.
- (Natural) Distribution:
- _ Voltorb
- _ Hisuian Voltorb
- _ Electrode
- _ Hisuian Electrode
- _ Beldum
- _ Metang
- _ Metagross
- _ Magnezone
- _ Rotom
- _ Reshiram
- _ Zekrom
- _ Charjabug
- _ Vikavolt
- _ Magearna
- _ Iron Moth
- • Tachyon Cutter
- Type: Steel
- Category: Special
- Power: 40
- Accuracy: 100%
- Description:
- _ The user attacks the target with its ethereal horns. This move always hits twice in a row.
- Distribution:
- _ Iron Crown
- • Tazing Crash
- Type: Rock
- Category: Physical
- Power: 100
- Accuracy: 80%
- Description:
- _ The user rams into the target with its charged horns. This also damages the user quite a lot and may leave the target with paralysis.
- Distribution:
- _ Iron Tines
- • Tephra Storm
- Type: Dragon
- Category: Physical
- Power: 100
- Accuracy: 80%
- Description:
- _ The user erupts causing a cloud of ash to rain down on opposing Pokémon. This may also leave them with a burn.
- Distribution:
- _ Storming Ash
- • Tera Blast
- Type: Jewel
- Category: Special
- Power: 80
- Accuracy: 100%
- Description:
- _ The user unleashes the energy of all 18 Types. This move inflicts Typeless damage using the Attack or Sp. Atk stat—whichever is higher for the user.
- (Natural) Distribution:
- _ No Pokémon learn this move Naturally.
- • Teraluminescence
- Type: Jewel
- Category: Special
- Power: 160
- Accuracy: 90%
- Description:
- _ The user gleams with the splendor of every type, dealing super effective damage against any target. The user can't move on the next turn.
- Distribution:
- _ Terapagos
- • Thunderclap
- Type: Electric
- Category: Special
- Power: 80
- Accuracy: 100%
- Description:
- _ This user surprises the target and attacks first with a lightning strike. This move fails if the target is not readying an attack.
- Distribution:
- _ Raging Bolt
- • Upper Hand
- Type: Fighting
- Category: Physical
- Power: 40
- Accuracy: 100%
- Description:
- _ The user attacks first and makes the target flinch. This move fails if the target is not readying an attack that'd go first otherwise.
- (Natural) Distribution:
- _ Mankey
- _ Primeape
- _ Hisuian Arcanine
- _ Hariyama
- _ Oshawott
- _ Dewott
- _ Samurott
- _ Hisuian Samurott
- _ Incineroar
- _ Impidimp
- _ Morgrem
- _ Grimmsnarl
- _ Single Strike Style Urshifu
- _ Kleavor
- _ Bloodmoon Ursaluna
- _ Annihilape
- _ Fezandipiti
- • Venom Hurl
- Type: Poison
- Category: Special
- Power: 80
- Accuracy: 80%
- Description:
- _ The user hurls sticky sludge which coats the target and traps it. This always leaves the target badly poisoned.
- Distribution:
- _ Hydrappl
Like, reply with your thoughts
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- - #0884
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Slaking is special because it has a gimmick: the BST of a legendary Pokémon, but horribly detrimental Ability.
This could also be true for Dipplin 2: the Squeakquel.
I thought this one made sense. I remember people saying this move feels generic enough to be used by other Pokémon.
Ninjask'd by woodgoldtwo, Duraludon's SpA is 120.
That said, this statline stinks. Speed taking a hit is one thing, that's not uncommon among evolutions, but none of the other stats increase much.
Going from a BST of 535 to a presumed 555 sucks. For context, there's a BST increase of 50 when
Rhydon evolves into 
Rhyperior, and when 
Scyther evolves into 
Scizor, at least the Atk and bulk increase was visible despite an identical BST.
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oh, right, forgot. Still, only a +5? Seems a bit unlikely
The duraladon and "Iron Tines" stats seem fake as hell, but only
Leaker would not start by soxxing themselves lmao. Also sky drop is never coming back. Even without it's history of glitchiness, it's potential for stalling and trolling far outweighs it's legitimate use
Personally I think the idea that Dipplin evo’s signature move and ability both being tied to the fact that it maybe sort of has a chance of being connected to a poison type legendary is unlikely, considering then it’s gameplay would not reflect the fact is has 8 damn heads LOL
They brought back Sand Tomb and Spite as TMs, who both have basically no legitamate use. They also have TM Fire Spin, Disarming Voice and Fake Tears, so I would disagree with that train of logic. I agree that Sky Drop isnt coming back, but saying that "useless" moves wont come back is incorrect, they have already brought back some of these "useless" moves as TMs.
Yeah, but then again, Galarian Stunfisk is Ground/Steel and its signature moves type is Grass Type, its not completely out of the picture
Some move distrubution anomalies;
Electro Shot: Its stated (I think) that it is Archaludons Signature Move, I dont think they would give it to other Pokemon.
Hard Press: Strange, I cant find any
Hold Still: Why would Rillaboom have this move?
Love Bite: I see 3 FE Fairy types on that list, and Whimsicott is one of them.
Psychic Noise: Why just A-Tales, and why just Zoroark-H?
Supercharged Cell: Why does Reshiram have it?
Upper Hand: So explain why Fezendipiti and only the Bloodmoon form or Ursaluna get it? And Kleavor, it hath no hands
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Pursuit returns??? O.o
Unlikely, it is likely very fake, with maybe a dash of truth in it. Maybe
I'm also not sure who decided Sky Drop was useless, it has had legitimate VGC usage in gen 7.
Right *shudders* Tapu Koko
Also, what do you think the Tera Forms for Koraidon and Miraidon will look like?
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Why, no other Pokémon with multiple heads has an ability that refers to such.
You are aware that only certain forms getting certain moves is fairly common for Pokémon with unchangeable forms, right?
Also Upper Hand isn't about hands, it's about getting the upper hand, it doesn't require actually having hands.
Animation is a goddamn palm strike, you can see why my brain would go that way. And yes, I am aware of how these unchangeable forms work, I'm not an idiot, as well as the fact that I realise BM is upright, thats why it could use Upper Hand.
Fun fact: Hard Press originated from a TCG: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Drapion_(Sword_&_Shield_122)
I'm hoping the leak is fake for the sole reason that Archaludon doesn't feel like an evolution to Duraludon, at least not to the same extent that other evolutions like Ursaluna and Kingambit do when compared to their pre-evolutions. That being said, 85 / 120 / 65 is actually a drastic improvement over 70 / 115 / 50 in terms of bulk, at least on the special side. Here are a few calcs I did.
252+ SpA Abomasnow Blizzard vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Duraludon: 271-319 (96.4 - 113.5%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
252+ SpA Abomasnow Blizzard vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Archaludon: 222-262 (71.3 - 84.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Abomasnow Blizzard vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Duraludon: 169-199 (49.1 - 57.8%) -- 96.9% chance to 2HKO
252+ SpA Archaludon Blizzard vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Archaludon: 147-174 (39.3 - 46.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Like, its still not great, but considering Duraludon's biggest issue as a steel-type was its middling bulk, getting a 20% - 30% boost roughly to its special bulk goes a long way.
However, Duraludon being faster, being able to use Eviolite, and having almost as much firepower would mean that Archaludon would need drastic movepool buffs in addition to having an actually useful ability (which it thankfully is already confirmed) in order to feel like an Evolution rather than a sidegrade.
Signs are pointing to the leak being cap though. Why would a TPCi employee know all these technical details, yet purposely obfuscate others? Doesn't make sense.
252+ SpA Abomasnow Blizzard vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Duraludon: 271-319 (96.4 - 113.5%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
252+ SpA Abomasnow Blizzard vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Archaludon: 222-262 (71.3 - 84.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Abomasnow Blizzard vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Duraludon: 169-199 (49.1 - 57.8%) -- 96.9% chance to 2HKO
252+ SpA Archaludon Blizzard vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Archaludon: 147-174 (39.3 - 46.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Like, its still not great, but considering Duraludon's biggest issue as a steel-type was its middling bulk, getting a 20% - 30% boost roughly to its special bulk goes a long way.
However, Duraludon being faster, being able to use Eviolite, and having almost as much firepower would mean that Archaludon would need drastic movepool buffs in addition to having an actually useful ability (which it thankfully is already confirmed) in order to feel like an Evolution rather than a sidegrade.
Signs are pointing to the leak being cap though. Why would a TPCi employee know all these technical details, yet purposely obfuscate others? Doesn't make sense.
I remember just 2 weeks roughly before the Teal Mask dropped there was also a Pastebin AND Poképaste leak showing the new Pokémon and stats and TMs etc. and it was all fake
The release-day Centro stat spreads for the Teal Mask new mons and forms looked just as fake, but they turned out to be real.
Forgot to mention this earlier, but the Pastebin claiming that the Blueberry Dex contains 247 mons instead of the much rounder 200 (the number of Pokemon in the Kitakami Dex) or 250 also looks very suspicious to me.
The pastebin also gives Psychic Noise’s move description as “The user telepathically tortures the target with auditory hallucinations,” which strikes me as pretty alarming and unlikely to be real, as I highly doubt that TPC would want the word “torture” in a move description.
That being said, I’ll give ‘em credit for the name “Storming Ash” for Paradox Entei. It’s not an amazing name by any means, but it neatly resolves the issue I had several pages ago about trying to make a fire-themed Paradox name that could fit into 12 character spaces, by leaning into Entei’s preexisting volcano theming.
That being said, I’ll give ‘em credit for the name “Storming Ash” for Paradox Entei. It’s not an amazing name by any means, but it neatly resolves the issue I had several pages ago about trying to make a fire-themed Paradox name that could fit into 12 character spaces, by leaning into Entei’s preexisting volcano theming.
Yeah, I'd expect they use torment, like "The user telepathically torments the target with auditory hallucinations," which is much more likely, but if they use torture instead of torment, I feel like Part 2 is getting rated T. Or maybe not
EDIT: This poor guy fell for the fake Pastebin
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I agree this is fake, but remember. This is the same company that didn't give Zamazenta Body Press until one Gen later and didn't give the mon who uses the shield of a king....King's shield.