I will never get how people in this thread view bans vs dnbs
It doesn't really matter if Kyurem is "the most deserving", objectively just banning literally 1 or 2 of the high tier threats, at random, would improve the metagame.
You could literally put them into a random number generator, ban the two it gives and you will always get a better metagame than what we have right now.
The issue is threat saturation. There are too many good offensive threats that require too different of answers. It's kinda just that simple. If you try to find the """best""" to ban, you don't actually get why the tier is problematic.
Every threat gets less oppressive when you don't have to check it + 10 other setup sweepers at the same time, but I guess we will just try to find new reasons to stagnate the tier.
55 - 45, the classic
Or maybe Kyurem simply…wasn’t broken this whole time, or at least isn’t broken rn.
Vert, Storm Zone, and others made convincing arguments on why Kyurem should stay.
Some examples of counterplay including Weavile, Gking, Volcarona, Balloon Ghold, Balloon Tran, slow pivot + Dragapult, Hazards (vs non-HDB), Iron Crown, etc. Most of these are not just to deal with Kyurem, they are amazing Pokemon you would splash on a team either way.
Specs, and Sub sets were found to be more support reliant due to the obvious “weak to rocks” elephant in the room. While HDB is arguably the best set, it misses out on certain KOs or 2HKOs on targets like Clefable. Forcing Kyurem to Tera could be a win since if they for example, Tera Ground, it becomes an easy picking for Weavile, Ogerpon, or Meowscarada.
Kyurem’s low winrate in SPL could be contributed to stuff like Weavile, Comfey, HO, etc rising in usage. As well as people simply prepping for it one way or another.
Personally I think the issue of threat saturation is warranted, but
a major contributor is that teams need to dump teambuilding resources to deal with Rain. You must stack your team with a specially bulky Ground type (Ting-Lu, SpD Lando, Clodsire) and a Water resist/immunity (Ogerpon, Toxapex, Dondozo, etc), which would be fine if the SpD Ground types actually did their jobs consistently, because Arch is so good at breaking them with chip or Electro Shot boosts.
Raging Bolt, another similar bulky offensive dragon imo is a healthy and good addition to the tier. It could very well be accounted for in the builder with Ting-Lu and other bulky ground types. While it is bulky, it isn’t so bulky to the point where offensive Tusk or Dragons can’t land KOs on it after chip, even Gking can trade health to Toxic Rbolt. On top of this, Rbolt adds value to the tier with its defensive profile, wallbreaking capabilities, and reliable speed control. However
teams simply cannot handle both Raging Bolt and Archaludon at once due to their shared checks, it is why ppl clump Rbolt with the other brokens. Don’t blame long necc Raikou, this is all the Bridge’s doing. Its why despite a few weeks of SPL passing, rain is still seeing really good results.
Will Kyurem be broken? Maybe, after all, most people who voted DNB on Gambit in the Home meta regretted it. This happens, ppl’s opinions change. That is why suspect tests take time to finish (tho this one was short asf), so ppl could flesh out their thoughts and express them through a vote.
Also please do not doxx or send death threats to the council and those who voted DNB just cause a suspect test for a children’s game didn’t go in your favor,
especially if you didn’t even get reqs to contribute to the vote.