NOC Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Mafia - Explorers - Game Thread (Game Over!)

[ShaneTheShroomish the Gulpin]

Because you already locked yourself out of voting pulsar and wanted to protect JALMONT, and I was a widely scumread player besides him

Which can happen whether JALMONT is actually your buddy or not, because you probably perceived JALMONT as easier to vote out on another day than I would be.

how did i lock myself out of voting her, i was voting her prior to voting for you

It was a convenient way to take heat of JALMONT that HyHy had already offered his doublevote for? Not saying that's guaranteed why but consider it

this theory implies that i'm voting solely to take the heat off of jalmont, which would be... assuming i'm a wolf. at that point i feel no need to respond

 

[StupidFlandrs48]

I think HyHy actually jumped on after Shane started the wagon on me

But he was hinting that he'd enjoy speedwagoning with anyone, that could've spurred him on. HyHy was clearly quite dissatisfied with both wagons

 

[Celever]

But he was hinting that he'd enjoy speedwagoning with anyone, that could've spurred him on. HyHy was clearly quite dissatisfied with both wagons

Valid, yeah

 

[Celever]

how did i lock myself out of voting her, i was voting her prior to voting for you


this theory implies that i'm voting solely to take the heat off of jalmont, which would be... assuming i'm a wolf. at that point i feel no need to respond

My recollection was you were voting JALMONT before moving to me, at least the first time. You voted JALMONT -> me -> pulsar -> me IIRC

 

[Celever]

if ur going to boil my read on you down to the fact that you made "pools" i don't want to talk about this anymore, you're just not being truthful

Anyway, sure, don’t talk about this anymore. M2H is awaiting your case on her.

 

[a fairy]

it's astonishing how shane can take a situation like cel's subpar explanations of his d1 reads and combat cel on them and somehow come out looking worse than cel

 

[StupidFlandrs48]

My recollection was you were voting JALMONT before moving to me, at least the first time. You voted JALMONT -> me -> pulsar -> me IIRC

Correct, he was hedging hard on JALMONT after the wall exchange between him and myself

 

[ShaneTheShroomish the Gulpin]

My recollection was you were voting JALMONT before moving to me, at least the first time. You voted JALMONT -> me -> pulsar -> me IIRC

sure, my question was "why do you think i tried to counterwagon you at the end of the day" which means i'm talking about my last vote

i am confused where i ever "locked myself out of voting for pulsar" considering i voted for her

 

[StupidFlandrs48]

Anyway, sure, don’t talk about this anymore. M2H is awaiting your case on her.

M2H talks a lot and makes reads he disagrees with so it'll probably be a sequel to this. Sequels can't surpass the original tho

 

[Celever]

it's astonishing how shane can take a situation like cel's subpar explanations of his d1 reads and combat cel on them and somehow come out looking worse than cel

Usually getting heated makes everyone scumread me this might be my favourite post ever

 

[JALMONT]

Sounds painful

JALMONT how do you feel about your wagon before you claimed?

it was bad. we should vote fairy

it's very weird there's this huge divide in the game though, feels like there's two sides who are just shouting past each other. I still think flanders is town. i have reevaluated alice and feel better about her too.

 

[StupidFlandrs48]

I'm looking forward to hearing what Clouds has to say about everything.
loads gun

 

[a fairy]

my original tierlistmaker was because you avoided actual conversation and just came in voting a new random person, and i was expecting that to be my "she wants to vote someone who isnt a wagon and will eventually get on a viable wagon" d1 standard

then people went "hm, i could live with a jalmont vote" so i joined in bc that was my preference

 

[ShaneTheShroomish the Gulpin]

it's astonishing how shane can take a situation like cel's subpar explanations of his d1 reads and combat cel on them and somehow come out looking worse than cel

i am burying him, i don't know what you're reading

reread it front to back and there's no possible way anyone can think he's arguing in good faith

 

[a fairy]

i am burying him, i don't know what you're reading

reread it front to back and there's no possible way anyone can think he's arguing in good faith

neither of you are in good faith

 

[bluedoom]

genisu I need a reads list from you with actual explanations because almost every list you've posted is sheeping others' reads. Who are mafia, and why?

 

[ShaneTheShroomish the Gulpin]

neither of you are in good faith

i am

 

[a fairy]

i am

you're strawmanning celever and celever is strawmanning you

 

[Celever]

sure, my question was "why do you think i tried to counterwagon you at the end of the day" which means i'm talking about my last vote

Sure, I answered that here, if you ignore the very first phrase. I’ve crossed it out for you to help:

Because you already locked yourself out of voting pulsar and wanted to protect JALMONT, and I was a widely scumread player besides him

Which can happen whether JALMONT is actually your buddy or not, because you probably perceived JALMONT as easier to vote out on another day than I would be.

i am confused where i ever "locked myself out of voting for pulsar" considering i voted for her

I forgot that you briefly voted for pulsar before going inactive and returning with a vote on me again, my bad for forgetting an instance of your fence sitting.

I think Flandrs is right that pulsar’s wagon lost momentum (before JALMONT’s claim) and that JALMONT was clearly gonna die, so Hydro wanting to flashwagon someone and there already being an appetite among active people at deadline to vote me out made me the best flashwagon target to save JALMONT

 

[ShaneTheShroomish the Gulpin]

you're strawmanning celever and celever is strawmanning you

please quote where i strawmanned celever

 

[a fairy]

you're welcome to believe whatever you want but im not gonna get pushed around by you into thinking things about you that don't make sense to me

 

[JALMONT]

my original tierlistmaker was because you avoided actual conversation and just came in voting a new random person, and i was expecting that to be my "she wants to vote someone who isnt a wagon and will eventually get on a viable wagon" d1 standard

then people went "hm, i could live with a jalmont vote" so i joined in bc that was my preference

you didn't have this theory ready when the day started ?

 

[M2H]

##Vote: Extension

 

[a fairy]

please quote where i strawmanned celever

no im not falling for this. i dont have to prove myself to you

 

[ShaneTheShroomish the Gulpin]

I think Flandrs is right that pulsar’s wagon lost momentum (before JALMONT’s claim) and that JALMONT was clearly gonna die, so Hydro wanting to flashwagon someone and there already being an appetite among active people at deadline to vote me out made me the best flashwagon target to save JALMONT

so you are saying the most reasonable justification behind my vote is that i'm a wolf who was doing everything in my power to save jalmont for some reason, not the much more simple explanation that i scumread you after i wrote that i did