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i dont agree with celever's idea that mafia is currently manipulating the town, which is where celever's oligarchy differs from standard debate club. my scum thoughts on celever are due to the nature of how he is making his arguments.



i got asked why i voted pulsar (a wagon i didnt like) rather than celever (one of my "if a good wagon forms" names) - to which my response was, i thought the wagon was forming due to oligarchy which i thought was a particularly bad wagon reason. turns out it was for other stuff maybe.
I'm struggling to understand this; you think celever's idea that mafia are manipulating the town is scummy. But how is this different from the wagon forming due to the oligarchy idea? Isn't it the same thing? are you saying that you just find his argument style scummy, but the oligarchy idea itself is nai?
 
I'm struggling to understand this; you think celever's idea that mafia are manipulating the town is scummy. But how is this different from the wagon forming due to the oligarchy idea? Isn't it the same thing? are you saying that you just find his argument style scummy, but the oligarchy idea itself is nai?
i think celever's argument style is scummy, i think the oligarchy stuff is a bad d1 read that celever doubled down on for reasons i can't understand

Reminder that a fairy townread me yesterday because of my argument style btw lol

and then you had an argument with shane which shattered it
 
Day 1 Votals (Final)
(8) pulsar512b
: bluedoom, genisu, joey, Duskfall98, Celever, M2H, a fairy, StupidFlandrs48
(5) Celever: Clouds, Shane the Shroomish, HydrogenHydreigon, JALMONT
(2) genisu: saberslasher11, pulsar512b
(1) JALMONT: Alice Kazumi
(1) joey: Laurel
(1) ImaginaryNeon: ImaginaryNeon

After much deliberation, you decide to vote out pulsar.

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pulsar512b - Magnezone, Town Barista - Lynched Day 1!

Night 1 begins now. You have around
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actually a more interesting vote split than I remembered tbh
 
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i think celever's argument style is scummy, i think the oligarchy stuff is a bad d1 read that celever doubled down on for reasons i can't understand



and then you had an argument with shane which shattered it
Tbf I didn’t wholly double down on it, when I was arguing with Shane it was in the past tense. I came into D2 with a slightly different mentality which I still have, but yes I also don’t think it’s completely irrelevant and needs to be thrown in the bin, especially as one of the major points where the buddying happened was the bad discourse around pulsar which led to her death.
 
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