NOC Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Mafia - Explorers - Game Thread (Game Over!)

JALMONT said:
Is reverse martyr like bus driver in that you wouldn’t get a result that you got redirected? That’s always been a little confusing to me. I assume yes
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My impression is that anything that targetted saber's target would apply to saber. E.g, if clouds copped tommy and saber martyred tommy, clouds would get the town from saber.
 
M2H said:
My impression is that anything that targetted saber's target would apply to saber. E.g, if clouds copped tommy and saber martyred tommy, clouds would get the town from saber.
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I know but in your hypothetical I am interested in if clouds would be alerted to being redirected or if he would just get town

I guess given that no one has claimed redirected it’s probably just the latter
 
JALMONT said:
Is reverse martyr like bus driver in that you wouldn’t get a result that you got redirected? That’s always been a little confusing to me. I assume yes
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notification depends on hosts, even for bus driver, it's more a game by game thing than an absolute thing

I would say most smogon games all redirects are informed so probably yes? also Charlie is an eimmer so even more likely yes if I was to guess, but hard to say for sure
 
JALMONT said:
I know but in your hypothetical I am interested in if clouds would be alerted to being redirected or if he would just get town

I guess given that no one has claimed redirected it’s probably just the latter
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wait you're not telling me what i think you're telling me
 
Votals 2.9
(4) genisu: joey, Duskfall98, Laurel, Celever
(3) Alice Kazumi: HydrogenHydreigon, Clouds
(1) Celever: Shane the Shroomish
(1) a fairy: bluedoom
(1) Shane the Shroomish: M2H
(1) bluedoom: ImaginaryNeon
(1) No Vote: JALMONT

Voteless: a fairy, Alice Kazumi, genisu, StupidFlandrs48

You have around 29 minutes until phase end (with the extension). With 15 alive, it takes 10 to hammer early.
 
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a fairy said:
a fairy -
i am town

Alice Kazumi -
I can see her being in a fair amount of scumteams. The primary reason to clear her would be Shane's vouch, and that's fair. One of the less active slots, I feel like she hasn't moved anywhere in my head from "inactive (positive vibes)" from my original thoughts. But given that things are further developing, a lack of development in my read of her makes me think that that's intentional, as if she's hoping to just under the radar this game.
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It's not intentional. It's me feeling lost about the roles talk and huge working. I don't know if this is enough to be subbed out but I've seen multiple players mentioning my inactivity or mentions of them feeling frustrated. Sorry.
M2H said:
But yeah I think Alice makes sense only really if I'm assuming one s in Shane/Celever, which would probably be Shane tbh. Her reads list read as if she were hiding one power player in the pile of me/tommy/shane/celever. it also bothers me that she excluded clouds and jalmont from the list but idk what to make of that. does alice not consider at the very least clouds to be in her "debate club."
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I was thinking about jalmont being scum at that time so I didn't included him on that list. I saw good gives from clouds, felt like his approach was good into solving the game so I did not include in that list. I abandoned that list though it's not productive.
a fairy said:
im willing to share [credit/responsibility] for the jalmont wagon.

again, im fine with being scumread, im fine with being voted. im not fine with my impact being disregarded just because people gloss over my posts (literally nobody interfaced with my reads list aside laurel unvoting me for it) or because i dont place early-in-cycle votes
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I feel you
JALMONT said:
Who do you think is mafia

who do you think we should vote
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- if I remember correctly I've seen genisu make multiple attempts of clearing himself being denied by experienced players. I'll say again that he lied about my activity in relation to last game (like you :( ). He is also extremely reactive but it's my first time playing with him.
- M2H only consistent thing that I remember with last game I'd say it's her stance on massclaiming and this game massclaiming is worse. She seemed less pressence but life happens. I think she is ramping up though.
- Laurel behaviour is one for future generations to study.
- I think there is some chance that you are scum but I wouldn't vote you right now. I'd like to wait after n2 to see if you are really vig. The arguments that "Player that likes unvote on d1 doesn't want to use kill on n1" makes a lot of sense to me.
- I did say that I wouldn't play as HH if I was town mayor but that's not bad nor good.
- There is a small chance joey is scum but he isn't worth voting because he gives us info for existing. I think he is town or mafia has some insane stuff in their other roles. He definitely can't be 3p with that role.

I feel like now I have way more people as town and too few or none in scum. I'd probably vote genisu right now. If not I'd vote laurel or m2h.

Town for me would be
Shane, A fairy, Flanders, Celever, Blue, me. Maybe Joey. Also duskfull seems townie but not sure on that one yet.

I'd like if my town would stop trying to vote out each other thanks!
 
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