but you didnt interrogate anyone's "moral consistency", what you did was make baseless accusations that because someone here said something that reminded you of something u heard from a PSL opportunist then we are all responsible for PSL's political lines on china and all the other violent things PSL is responsible for. similarly with jill stein which someone made a passing reference to, the us green party is irrelevant and a joke, i certainly do not pay the slightest bit of attention to jill stein or anything she says, and while the comments u referred to above sound awful i also dont care that much bc jill stein is not and will never be a relevant politician or have any political power. also, even if we pretend that she isnt irrelevant, positions on things that the us government has direct influence over are obv much more relevant when it comes to a supposed political candidate. its fine that u criticized it once but mentioning it over and over again, as if it is something that every person who speaks up against the palestinian genocide is required to answer for when there is 0 reason why we would even know about her comments, and when again no one here has said anything suggesting that we are not also critical of other perpetrators of imperialist war crimes, is 'problematic.'
fwiw its also an emotionally sensitive area for me since pvk ran an entire slander campaign in smogon against me on an equally unfounded basis (that bc i criticized her for promoting islamophobia in her server that i was somehow responsible for distinguishing myself from xyz group that my word choices reminded her of but that i obv would have no way to know of), which continues to have 'residual' effects to this day (despite her "private retraction" months later lol). but regardless of my own experiences, its just not a fair or reasonable way to engage with people, that if i say x thing then im magically accountable for every other person who has said x thing and their other positions views etc.
also, PSL is like the most notorious fake-left org in the "us" so if you arent aware of basic context like PSL's extensive history of violence against survivors of ipv and repression of criticism of such within "the party", then maybe you should stop telling other people that our politics are divorced from reality.
what does a two state solution even mean. what are the borders, when every inch of the settler colony is land that has been stolen either during the 1948 nakba or since, and when every day the "current borders" change as the settler colonial state destroys more indigenous homes and steals the land for more illegal settlements. what about the rights of palestinians living within whatever borders would be assigned to the "israeli state." how can the right of return for > a million refugees and reparations be implemented in the context of a "two state solution". etc etc etc
it is very strange to be framing my position as an outsider telling israelis and palestinians what to do, when the oslo accords (from which the mythology of a "two state solution" generally originates) is an entirely amerikkkan project and when the only party who has ever presented the two state solution as a serious programme is the US government, or sometimes for a brief period of time after oslo parties trying to perform cooperation with the oslo paradigm. im not aware of any organization within historic palestine either palestinian or settler that actually advocates for a two state programme so it is bizarre to frame that as if it were coming from the parties involved.
but also your focus on this aspect is like completely missing the point of my comments. to keep giving weapons to the zionist state as part of a "negotiation", would reveal the goal of the negotiation to be a zionist state that continues to be more militarily powerful but perhaps "avoids the most extreme forms" of genocidal violence against palestinians. of course, as long as palestinian homes are being destroyed for settlements, palestinians in the west bank and gaza lack basic rights and palestinians within '48 palestine lack equal rights, and there is no right of return or reparations for those expelled in the nak'ba, then the palestinian genocide is ongoing. and the consequences of a militarily powerful zionist state are not much less devastating for the indigenous populations elsewhere in the region. so, even if it were true that the white house was trying to use soft power blah blah to negotiate for a temporary ceasefire, which there is no actual evidence of (the us govt, as the biggest terrorist in the world today def does not give two shits about the palestinian people; but it is plausible that the govt might want a *temporary* ceasefire just for image reasons); even if that premise were true the moniker genocide Joe would still be entirely appropriate because a temporary ceasefire would not change the fact of amerikkkan responsibility for 80 years of palestinian genocide, and that every additional billion $ of weapons for the zionist entity is an intensified catastrophe for the palestinian people in the future, even if there were a brief reprieve in the present [which reprieve is ofc only necessary due to the prior decades of US imperial support for the settler colonial zionist state in the firet place]. a temporary ceasefire is not even a permanent ceasefire, which the us govt does not even pretend to be asking for but which hamas justifiably demands as necessary for a ceasefire to actually be meaningful [rather than just giving the zionist entity time to shore up its military apparatus before further massacres], much less an end to the palestinian genocide which requires freedom and land back for all palestinians from the river to the sea, and the right of return and land reparations for all refugees expelled in the nakba.
fwiw its also an emotionally sensitive area for me since pvk ran an entire slander campaign in smogon against me on an equally unfounded basis (that bc i criticized her for promoting islamophobia in her server that i was somehow responsible for distinguishing myself from xyz group that my word choices reminded her of but that i obv would have no way to know of), which continues to have 'residual' effects to this day (despite her "private retraction" months later lol). but regardless of my own experiences, its just not a fair or reasonable way to engage with people, that if i say x thing then im magically accountable for every other person who has said x thing and their other positions views etc.
also, PSL is like the most notorious fake-left org in the "us" so if you arent aware of basic context like PSL's extensive history of violence against survivors of ipv and repression of criticism of such within "the party", then maybe you should stop telling other people that our politics are divorced from reality.
what does a two state solution even mean. what are the borders, when every inch of the settler colony is land that has been stolen either during the 1948 nakba or since, and when every day the "current borders" change as the settler colonial state destroys more indigenous homes and steals the land for more illegal settlements. what about the rights of palestinians living within whatever borders would be assigned to the "israeli state." how can the right of return for > a million refugees and reparations be implemented in the context of a "two state solution". etc etc etc
it is very strange to be framing my position as an outsider telling israelis and palestinians what to do, when the oslo accords (from which the mythology of a "two state solution" generally originates) is an entirely amerikkkan project and when the only party who has ever presented the two state solution as a serious programme is the US government, or sometimes for a brief period of time after oslo parties trying to perform cooperation with the oslo paradigm. im not aware of any organization within historic palestine either palestinian or settler that actually advocates for a two state programme so it is bizarre to frame that as if it were coming from the parties involved.
but also your focus on this aspect is like completely missing the point of my comments. to keep giving weapons to the zionist state as part of a "negotiation", would reveal the goal of the negotiation to be a zionist state that continues to be more militarily powerful but perhaps "avoids the most extreme forms" of genocidal violence against palestinians. of course, as long as palestinian homes are being destroyed for settlements, palestinians in the west bank and gaza lack basic rights and palestinians within '48 palestine lack equal rights, and there is no right of return or reparations for those expelled in the nak'ba, then the palestinian genocide is ongoing. and the consequences of a militarily powerful zionist state are not much less devastating for the indigenous populations elsewhere in the region. so, even if it were true that the white house was trying to use soft power blah blah to negotiate for a temporary ceasefire, which there is no actual evidence of (the us govt, as the biggest terrorist in the world today def does not give two shits about the palestinian people; but it is plausible that the govt might want a *temporary* ceasefire just for image reasons); even if that premise were true the moniker genocide Joe would still be entirely appropriate because a temporary ceasefire would not change the fact of amerikkkan responsibility for 80 years of palestinian genocide, and that every additional billion $ of weapons for the zionist entity is an intensified catastrophe for the palestinian people in the future, even if there were a brief reprieve in the present [which reprieve is ofc only necessary due to the prior decades of US imperial support for the settler colonial zionist state in the firet place]. a temporary ceasefire is not even a permanent ceasefire, which the us govt does not even pretend to be asking for but which hamas justifiably demands as necessary for a ceasefire to actually be meaningful [rather than just giving the zionist entity time to shore up its military apparatus before further massacres], much less an end to the palestinian genocide which requires freedom and land back for all palestinians from the river to the sea, and the right of return and land reparations for all refugees expelled in the nakba.
