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[spoo]

Even though Necturna got nerfed it could still sketch Poltergeist despite not learning it naturally through TM. That would patch up its main issue of no good Ghost STAB

Rage Fist is infinitely better than Poltergeist. After getting hit a single time, its BP is already almost equivalent, and it can scale far far higher. This allows Necturna to act as a wall, breaker, and wincon all at once. Rage Fist also can't miss, or fail whenever the opponent loses its item, or quickly run out of PP, and it doesn't depend on Attack or Speed investment. The two moves are not remotely equivalent or even comparable.

Necturna could compensate for losing Rage Fist by using other moves or other sets –– but what is it actually doing, right now, in the metagame? We don't know yet, because it's barely been a week since the nerf was implemented. If you're going to post in this thread, please try to support those opinions with evidence, even if it's just anecdotal evidence. Or at the very least, explain the reasoning behind your opinion, instead of just stating it in one or two sentences and not backing it up.

I already had to delete a one-liner since my last post two hours ago. You don't need to post an essay, or even a full paragraph, but it should take more than 10 seconds to think of and type out.

 

[SunMYSER]

to B+

Hoopa-Unbound @ Assault Vest
Ability: Magician
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 248 HP / 44 Atk / 40 Def / 84 SpA / 92 Spe
Lonely Nature
- Knock Off
- Psychic Noise
- Drain Punch
- Gunk Shot/Thunderbolt

I've been liking Hoopa recently. It's a fairly decent role compression of Chugg answer+special wall+knock spreader that is pretty difficult for balance/fat to switch in on. Psychic Noise lets it bully a lot of mons that rely on their recovery. Drain Punch gets a surprising amount of use against steel types that try to switch into gunk/noise.

The last move is up to preference. Gunk+Tera Poison lets Hoopa become a solid late-game hemo and rev answer and generally lets it deal with fairies more easily, while Thunderbolt lets it further bully corv/skar and bulky waters like alomomola and Snael, who otherwise are a bit annoying.

 

[spoo]

PRE (sort of) CAPCL VR UPDATE! We have a new addition to the VR team, welcome Spammernoob! Fragments decided to set this one out as well.

Newly Ranked
Araquanid UR → B-
Iron Hands UR → C
Kitsunoh UR → S-
Necturna UR → B+
Ninetales UR → C
Pyroak UR → C
Shox UR → B-
Weezing-Galar UR → C

Rises
Gliscor A+ → S-
Cresceidon A → A+
Kyurem A → A+
Ogerpon-Wellspring A → A+
Iron Moth A- → A
Zamazenta A- → A
Alomomola B+ → A-
Revenankh B+ → A-
Hydrapple B- → B
Ursaluna B- → B
Cawmodore C → B-
Fidgit C → B-
Ninetales-Alola C → B-
Pecharunt C → B-

Drops
Dragapult S- → A+
Chuggalong A+ → A
Gholdengo A+ → A
Hemogoblin A+ → A
Deoxys-Speed A → A-
Landorus-Therian A → A-
Malaconda A → A-
Ting-Lu A → A-
Walking Wake A → A-
Dragonite A- → B+
Krilowatt A- → B+
Snaelstrom A- → B+
Hawlucha B+ → B
Heatran B+ → B
Rillaboom B+ → B
Rotom-Wash B+ → B
Skarmory B+ → B
Weavile B+ → B
Skeledirge B+ → B-
Enamorus B → B-
Hatterene B → B-
Manaphy B → B-
Ribombee B → B-
Serperior B → C
Clodsire B- → C
Dondozo B- → C
Sinistcha B- → C
Tomohawk B- → C
Toxapex B- → C
Greninja C → UR
Okidogi C → UR
Plasmanta C → UR
Reuniclus C → UR
Slowking C → UR
Torkoal C → UR
Tyranitar C → UR

 

[Fragments]

PRE (sort of) CAPCL VR UPDATE! We have a new addition to the VR team, welcome Spammernoob! Fragments decided to set this one out as well.

NO HE DIDNT

 

[Steam Buns]

Hello, it's time for some VR nominations

New
-> A- | Why did this get unranked? there has potentially never been a pokemon with a stronger offensive profile.
(post buff) -> S- | Say hello to your soon to be most hated mon in the meta
-> C
-> C
-> C
-> C
-> C
-> C

Rises
-> S | Please OU this is thing is so broken, I had to use skill swap clefable for christs sake
-> A | Only the tip of the iceberg has been touched for this mon, so bulky so strong can't be stopped with status its the perfect answer to a ghost riddled meta.
-> B+
(pre buff) -> A-
-> B+ | Mon is locked to bdrum but there is actually a lot of room to customize every other aspect, with a combination of traits as strong as cawm has you can't write it off until every option is exhausted
-> A+ | It's genuinely the perfect glue mon
-> B+
-> B
-> S-
-> A
-> A
-> B
-> B-
-> B- | those who know

Drops
-> A | why use arghonaut when arghonaut exists yknow?
-> A-
-> B | I have never been able to make this mon work but maybe its a skill issue
-> B-
-> C
-> C
-> C

 

[Suppletangerine]

Sorry if I’m missing it but what is the Shox buff?

 

[Spammernoob]

Sorry if I’m missing it but what is the Shox buff?

+18 SpA, +6 Def, +10 SpD, -18 Atk

Also got a movepool update for 2.0, most notable move I think is Earth Power (though I haven't looked closely).

 

[spoo]

Post-CAPCL VR update! sorry for the delay, Fragments didn't vote for two whole weeks, then I was out of town for a week, then I forgot for a couple more days, and now we're here. Let's all say goodbye to D2TheW who stepped down from the VR team after a long few years. fragments still never voted btw

Rises

• Gliscor A+ → S
• Cresceidon A+ → S-
• Garganacl A → A+
• Moltres A- → A
• Ting-Lu A- → A
• Zamazenta A- → A
• Clefable B+ → A-
• Dragonite B+ → A-
• Hydrapple B → B+
• Araquanid B- → B
• Hatterene B- → B
• Ninetales-Alola B- → B
• Ogerpon B- → B
• Tinkaton B- → B
• Tornadus-Therian B- → B
• Pecharunt B- → B+
• Shox B- → B+
• Blissey C → B-
• Dondozo C → B-
• Iron Hands C → B-
• Keldeo C → B-
• Weezing-Galar C → B-
• Corviknight C → B
• Latios C → B

Drops

• Kitsunoh S- -> A
• Chuggalong A → A-
• Iron Moth A → A-
• Kingambit A → A-
• Mollux A → A-
• Venomicon A → B+
• Deoxys-Speed A- → B+
• Malaconda A- → B+
• Primarina A- → B+
• Raging Bolt A- → B+
• Walking Wake A- → B+
• Necturna B+ → B
• Hawlucha B → B-
• Heatran B → B-
• Rillaboom B → B-
• Rotom-Wash B → B-
• Stratagem B → B-
• Venomicon-Epilogue B → B-
• Iron Boulder B- → C
• Ribombee B- → C
• Venusaur B- → C
• Volcanion B- → C
• Iron Treads B- → UR
• Slowking C → UR
• Torkoal C → UR

 

[Fragments]

Post-CAPCL VR update! sorry for the delay, Fragments didn't vote for two whole weeks, then I was out of town for a week, then I forgot for a couple more days, and now we're here. Let's all say goodbye to D2TheW who stepped down from the VR team after a long few years. fragments still never voted btw

Rises

• Gliscor A+ → S
• Cresceidon A+ → S-
• Garganacl A → A+
• Moltres A- → A
• Ting-Lu A- → A
• Zamazenta A- → A
• Clefable B+ → A-
• Dragonite B+ → A-
• Hydrapple B → B+
• Araquanid B- → B
• Hatterene B- → B
• Ninetales-Alola B- → B
• Ogerpon B- → B
• Tinkaton B- → B
• Tornadus-Therian B- → B
• Pecharunt B- → B+
• Shox B- → B+
• Blissey C → B-
• Dondozo C → B-
• Iron Hands C → B-
• Keldeo C → B-
• Weezing-Galar C → B-
• Corviknight C → B
• Latios C → B

Drops

• Chuggalong A → A-
• Iron Moth A → A-
• Kingambit A → A-
• Mollux A → A-
• Venomicon A → B+
• Deoxys-Speed A- → B+
• Malaconda A- → B+
• Primarina A- → B+
• Raging Bolt A- → B+
• Walking Wake A- → B+
• Necturna B+ → B
• Hawlucha B → B-
• Heatran B → B-
• Rillaboom B → B-
• Rotom-Wash B → B-
• Stratagem B → B-
• Venomicon-Epilogue B → B-
• Iron Boulder B- → C
• Ribombee B- → C
• Venusaur B- → C
• Volcanion B- → C
• Iron Treads B- → UR
• Slowking C → UR
• Torkoal C → UR

AHHH I FORGOR AGAIN