NOC Tracker Jailer Follower - Game Thread - Day 2!

[phoopes]

not instantly at all genisu

my initial questioning of you
my readlist where I say you're townlean
your vote of DBD when I was convinced DBD was town
me questioning how you thought of Peum as town when there was no content there
your nothingburger of a response
my response to your response
the readlist where I say I'm leaning scum on you

like Peum, this will also likely be my last post of the night. I'll be active when I wake up, which will be plenty of time before deadline

 

[phoopes]

actually it's not

if any vote is opportunistic it's joey's vote for me lol

but I was more concerned with Peum and also not wanting to split the vote further. just wanted to make a note of that

 

[pulsar512b]

There is no meaning in voting celever now if we can get information on them by just doing nothing

##Unvote

##Vote: Phoopes

i cant quite follow the logic here but i am down for this

 

[pulsar512b]

oh nvm its not dl yet nice

 

[pulsar512b]

i feel very bad for peum getting misunderstood/people not being willing to make the effort to think about his posts.
##vote: phoopes

 

[AngryPidgeon]

Vote Count 2.5
https://countingdownto.com/?c=6801048

With 11 alive, its takes 6 to hammer.

phoopes (4): genisu, joey, Peum, pulsar
peum (2): Celever, phoopes
genisu (1): jalmont
Dead by Daylight (1): ImaginaryNeon

Not voting (3): Shypebble, Dead by Daylight, Miyami

 

[AngryPidgeon]

I think I made the timer slightly longer than I intended (probably a timezone hiccup). Thats ok though, I will honor the count down timer which means there is just about 10 hours and 25 minutes left.

 

[genisu]

I think I made the timer slightly longer than I intended (probably a timezone hiccup). Thats ok though, I will honor the count down timer which means there is just about 10 hours and 25 minutes left.

did u want it to be in 2:30 hrs

 

[Dead by Daylight]

##Vote: Celever

 

[ImaginaryNeon]

At that point in time I was one of like 2/3 people in the thread, and the others did not have interest in voting me; tbc, the vote was not in self-pres

At some point it feels like you genuinely do not want any towncred at all, whatsoever.

Also fuck that's a lot of posts I need to stop being lazy.

 

[ImaginaryNeon]

I mean what you're missing and frankly, what to me is just common sense, is that everything needs to be evaluated in context which you haven't been doing at all

I see the context of the day 1 vote - okay des is mafia, knowing that how does that change my view of people's interactions with des?

you did the opposite. "okay des is mafia, how can I use this result to confirm my already decided opinion of dbd mafia." that's not good solving

Heartwarming: Smogon user discovers how tunneling works

 

[jalmont]

I’m taking a shower I’ll be on when I’m back

 

[ImaginaryNeon]

I’m taking a shower I’ll be on when I’m back

Holy shit showermeld

 

[ImaginaryNeon]

which is lowk why top players never policy as town

Tell that to the playerlist of the average MU game with the Radio in it.

 

[ImaginaryNeon]

hard disagree here

someone said before (I forget who sorry) that des will absolutely be voted out before she can get in the LYLO/MYLO scenario. But mafia want to keep her around as long as possible for confusion's sake. That's why I am very unconvinced that mafia would vote for des

??????
So, you're saying that the mafia would want to keep des around, not because she was mafia, but just to make the game slightly more chaotic by her existing?

 

[ImaginaryNeon]

Showered

 

[ImaginaryNeon]

??????
So, you're saying that the mafia would want to keep des around, not because she was mafia, but just to make the game slightly more chaotic by her existing?

And regardless, it clearly doesn't matter given that the vote happened anyways, so the Mafia either was on the wagon or just didn't care to prevent it, which seems unlikely.

 

[ImaginaryNeon]

"what confusion does des output"
the everything about her playstyle, it just raises so many question marks when she plays as to what is really going on. I haven't experienced a des game yet where I can figure out what she's thinking or doing. Mafia wants that in the game for sure. So I don't see mafia being on des wagon really. Does not make sense to me in the slightest.

I don't have such an issue because I'm not good at figuring out what people in particular are thinking.
For all I know, you could be thinking about what groceries you need to get this week.

 

[Miyami~~~]

And regardless, it clearly doesn't matter given that the vote happened anyways, so the Mafia either was on the wagon or just didn't care to prevent it, which seems unlikely.

yes this is the line of reasoning, especially since it's not like des is a high contributor anyways

 

[ImaginaryNeon]

Currently at #378 and I'll try to go to bed and fathom the post in the morning.

 

[jalmont]

##unvote
##vote joey

 

[genisu]

what if its just jalmont phoopes lmfao

 

[genisu]

i feel like jalmonts usually better than this

 

[jalmont]

i feel like jalmonts usually better than this

yeah our mafia strategy was to scumread each other off the jump and let our 3rd get voted off

 

[jalmont]

I need to head back to work, but this argument confuses me as a rebuttal to phoopes posts in #226. (This is also the last post I got up to, sorry I'm a slow reader ;;v;;)

Where is towncred playing into this? Isn't virtue of the fact that he didn't tie vote just kind of get towncred, why would he need to say it in order to get it? If he did do that would that make him more or less likely town in your eyes?

I understand the pre-flipping, but does bussing des even make sense on like the first day. Especially since she was just kind of a policy vote.

We have 13 players the first day. 10 town, 3 scum.
This is the most basic worst case scenario break down not factoring in that their are PR roles that can block a kill.

D1 BL: 9/3	D1 GL: 10/2
N1 NK: 8/3	N1 NK: 9/2
D2 BL: 7/3	D2 BL: 8/2
N2 NK: 6/3	N2 NK: 7/2
D3 BL: 5/3	D3 BL: 6/2
N3 NK: 4/3	N3 NK: 5/2
D4 BL: 3/3 GAME	D4 BL: 4/2
	N4 NK: 3/2
	D5 Lynch: LYLO? 2/2 if Bad

That would mean the maf intentionally choose to face like 2 extra phases for some brownie points which I just don't see happening.

Feel like the maf are probs folks who either weren't around last phase change to help or were already committed to a vote that might have saved des in the first place (I feel good abt Neon, DBD, and Jalmont the most of those who were around). I still kind of wanna lynch Phoopes, cause all I've seen was old mechanics talk we could have done yesterday when it was brought up and -checks notes- the JK and Follower shouldn't claim, unless there's a 50/50, which seems like obvious, the DBD defense posts does feel a lil better tho. But my break is over officially (actually I went a couple minutes over, don't tell my boss ;;v;;) so I will share more thoughts later.

Please ping me if you have questions so they're easier to find, I should be a little more free tomorrow (I'm off, but planning a party )

i'm sympathetic to you being busy and having a job but we really need you to place a vote somewhere. in fact, i think reading thru and placing a relatively informed vote is way important than anything else. thanks