Ginga, it made perfect sense. Take any sun team with the ladder and replace ninetales with politoed, and you won't break 1000 on any legit ladder. Sun teams and rain teams are basically almost polar opposites, sharing few pokemon except MAYBE the occasional generic support mon. If changing ninetales to a politoed only changes up one move, then it's clearly not a sun team. I know i could've just said that (And i did), but i felt that was a framing device that would put the argument in perspective.