2018-19 NBA Thread

Who knows but he's ours now.

One more win from the finals!
Can't believe people thought there was a universe in which the Raptors could have lost that trade.

Even more ridiculous is that people thought Popovich would help DeRozan reach his true potential. Not sure if they were overrating Popovich more or DeRozan more.

3 straight All Star nods, 2017 All-NBA third team, 2018 All-NBA second team to no All Star no All-anything hahahahahahaha but sPuRs DiDn'T lOsE tHe TrAdE.

Getting to the Finals would be huge for the Raptors franchise, but jfc Drake is cringe. Also apparently the Warriors aren't expecting Durant to be back for game one? Whoever comes out of the East must head west up 2-0 then.
 
I have to know in what universe is Kawhi Leonard worth just Jakob Poeltl, a protected first rounder, and DeMar DeRozan? Especially once you throw an expiring Danny Green into that trade as well.
Because he was both an enormous injury concern (just look how Toronto coddled him through the regular season) AND a massive flight risk. I know skip Bayless wont stfu about "#2"s ghost ailment that hes been dealing with but at least a successful finals run would APPEAR to alleviate concerns that Leonard leaves after the season.
DeRozen has both a long term deal (team cost-control) and little injury history. Also the Raptors were in a relative win-win situation of either convincing Kawhi to stay or affording Ujiri the opportunity to finally blow it up and rebuild the team in his image
 

Bull Of Heaven

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Yeah, the scenarios where the Raptors lost the trade were:
1) Kawhi can't play at all.
2) The team doesn't do better with him, and he leaves after 1 year.

I always thought they'd won the trade, but it wasn't quite this obvious at the time.
 
Because he was both an enormous injury concern (just look how Toronto coddled him through the regular season) AND a massive flight risk. I know skip Bayless wont stfu about "#2"s ghost ailment that hes been dealing with but at least a successful finals run would APPEAR to alleviate concerns that Leonard leaves after the season.
But the absolute worst case scenario was Kawhi being injured, Raptors aren't forced to re-sign him and he ends up leaving. And even then, they dump DeRozan's ridiculous contract and speed up their rebuild a little bit. If they didn't make the deal, DeRozan is on the books for another 2 years after this one, and then what, you re-sign him again because of loyalty? You let him walk and get nothing out of it?

And isn't the fact that the Spurs were fine with a top-20 protected pick kinda weird? That basically means they knew Kawhi was fine, and he'd return to form, yet they accepted a DeRozan and Poeltl while adding Danny Green to the deal. They couldn't even coax Ujiri into giving them Siakam? Did they overrate DeRozan, Poeltl, or underrate Siakam? Did they even know about Siakam? If they thought there were even a slight chance Kawhi would sit out the season, or be injured enough to play like half a season that Toronto drops to the bottom half of the East playoffs, they wouldn't have taken that protection. At least, I wouldn't have.

And yeah, if Ainge is willing to put everything on the table for AD as reports have said, you'd think they would've done the same for Kawhi. Yet Spurs took the Toronto deal ffs. So no, I don't buy the whole "Kawhi would've walked and left them with nothing if they didn't trade with Toronto" bullshit.
 
Folks out there may be expecting my extended thoughts on the Finals matchup but I regret to say that my life and mental state isn't up to par today to preview anything right now.

I will say some glancing thoughts I have are:

-Siakim's effectiveness in small lineups and effect on Green.

-Kawhi's usage defensively. Will Curry be affected? If he's on a non-shooter like Green, are the Warriors stifled offensively?

-Toronto's overall ability to rebound small or with Gasol/Ibaka.

-And of course Durant or Cousin's effect coming back.

Statistically, Warriors are deserving favorites, but with Nurse's unorthodox rotations and Toronto's decent lineups of defenders and rebounders, them winning is nowhere near a stretch.
 
Toronto wins Game 1
Warriors tie The Finals in Game 2
Warriors go ahead in Game 3
Warriors push the lead in Game 4
Raptors wins Game 5 with a Kawhi's superb performance
Warriors ends The Finals in Game 6 and Curry/Green is named Finals MVP
 

Nakeeb

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tbh I got raptors in 7, I got some hope in them. Right now, all the raptors gotta do is closeout on Klay and Curry and not let them shoot threes. This the outcome I think will happen if KD doesnt come back tho.
 
Looks like your list needs to be updated^

I can't even imagine Curry's response to be robbed of another Finals MVP. KD can fuck off to the trashknicks
 

Coronis

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What an amazing win. No KD, Klay and Looney get hurt, Iggy plays with suspect legs and Steph is sick. Not to mention a great performance from Boogie in his 2nd game back. I am afraid I have to agree with Max Kellerman: game on the line I want Iggy taking that shot.
 
What an amazing win. No KD, Klay and Looney get hurt, Iggy plays with suspect legs and Steph is sick. Not to mention a great performance from Boogie in his 2nd game back. I am afraid I have to agree with Max Kellerman: game on the line I want Iggy taking that shot.
The Iggy's situation is all about Curry and his deadly shot. He draws too much attention and that focus of attention on him gives space to Iggy, Green and others. Obviously Iggy is a FMVP and is a reliable player, but is all about the Curry's offense and the defense's dillema about guard him.


OBS.: In the end of Game 1 I talked about Siakam's monstrous game with my friends and I sincerely doubted about a back to back performance in Game 2. Game 1 Siakam: 32 pts, 14/17 FG. Game 2 Siakam: 12 pts, 5/18 FG. And a superb defense by Green, Bogut and Looney.
 

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I definitely feel bad for KD being out, but let's be honest it's made the finals way more interesting. I for one don't really care to see the Warriors steamroll the competition for a third straight year with KD as their cheat code.

Klay and Looney are another story. Steph Curry definitely felt the Lebron James experience circa 2015/2018 in game three. Luckily for him I doubt Klay misses another game.
 
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So the Nets have agreed to dump Allen Crabbe's deal onto the Hawks with the 17th pick this draft, and a future lottery-protected pick (that will convert to two second rounders if not conveyed by 2022) for Taurean Prince and a 2021 second rounder. Huge implications for free agency that I'll try to break down:

Nets have created a second max slot this summer with this trade (and have the ability to match offers for D'Angelo Russell), joining the Knicks as teams with two max slots. The Clippers can create a second max slot, and the Lakers have one max slot with assets to trade for a star, namely Anthony Davis. Wojnarowski mentioned that there is mutual interest between the Nets and Kyrie Irving, who now holds a lot of power with regards to player movement this summer.

It's no secret that the Knicks and Nets are aiming to sign two of the top free agents this summer: Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant. If Kyrie does indeed sign with the Nets, that essentially puts the Celtics and Knicks out of the Anthony Davis sweepstakes. As I mentioned in an earlier post, the Celtics are unlikely to want to trade for Anthony Davis when their only assets consist of Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum, the Grizzlies pick, and the Clippers pick. They won't want to part with both Brown and Tatum, since parting with both of them would significantly weaken their case for AD to re-sign next summer. That means their best offer could likely be one of them plus both picks. That's a pretty bad offer for someone of Anthony Davis's caliber, and quite honestly easily beatable.

The Knicks, without Kyrie Irving, are in a similar situation. They can offer the 3rd pick (RJ Barrett maybe?), Kevin Knox, and Mitchell Robinson, but again that would leave them with a weak case for AD to re-sign, with Frank Ntilikina and Dennis Smith Jr left on their payroll. If they sign Kevin Durant, that's a different scenario, but does Durant sign there without Irving? Funny to think that the Knicks, just 3 weeks ago, were looking at Zion, Kyrie, and KD, and now might be left with just Dennis Smith Jr to show from the Porzingis trade.

That leaves the Los Angeles teams. The Clippers can offer Gallinari's expiring and... some role players? Even with my Lakers bias aside, that's not nearly as exciting as just the 4th pick in the draft, let alone their ability to add a few players.

So what I'm really saying is, Pelicans fucked up not taking the Lakers offer in February.
 

Bull Of Heaven

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I live in Atlantic Canada right now. Tonight’s game, like the last one, starts at 10pm. I expect I’ll be watching in an outdoor crowd just like last time.

Folks the Raptors might actually do this.
 

Bull Of Heaven

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Couldn’t even get into the square until halftime. Amazing energy in a whole other part of the country. All that “Canada’s team” talk suddenly seems a lot more reasonable.
 
The whole city is going crazy right now, this feels so surreal. We are literally one game away from our first championship.
 
plus everyone is completely cool with Raptors winning it all if they do. Can't hate a Canadian team.

Can't wait to see Raptors gear sold out everywhere soon. What a weird bandwagon it'll be.
 

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