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im trying to hit seed 18514F909B71116B to capture tornadus on my black. i beleive im hitting the seed since the ivs are coming out correct but the nature is not. im using pprng and im searching adjacents. this tornadus is on pid 657. ive searched +/- 20,000 PID advancements and still no match. any idea as to what the problem could be?

edit: now that ive tried pprng on my computer, the seeds showing 31/31/31/30/31/31 but im getting 31/31/30/02/31/31 but im hitting the seed. i guess this means the ivrng is advancing by 1 from the time it takes me to step outside the house. should i run around in the house a bit, save, and try again?

edit 2: also, if youre hitting your seed, does that mean youll have the same experience with how many times entering route 7 it takes the rain to come, how many wild encounters before its tornadus etc?
The RNG Reporter doesn't show either set of IVs for that seed, so not sure what's going on there...unless those IVs are on an adjacent seed in which case you're missing your seed. Do you mean you know the PID but you can't find it listed? If that's the case, then I'd say something else is wrong.

Iirc the step to leave the house doesn't cause the IV frame to advance, but if you find that you're advancing the IV frame then yeah running in the house for a bit then re-saving should fix that.

And confirming that it won't be the same every time to encounter it (unfortunately).
 

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alright so after more time, aka all friggin day.. this is where im at in my quest to rng tornadus

seed 53393624C3B1B352 and PID a1c32b83

consistently hitting the seed but cant hit the pid. seemingly hitting every pid but that one. one question i have is, does the shifted starting frame fluctuate a bit each time, even when you hit the seed? i never seem to get a consistent result but seem to be landing between frames 690-703 every time (the target is 698) after anywhere between 77-90 chatot chatters.

ive tried to calculate the shifted starting frame and gotten mixed results between 605-618 with 608 being pretty common. is this normal? or should you be able to accurately and easily pin down a shifted starting frame that works every time?

this is so damn hard haha
 
I remember hitting consistently the same PID for each number of advancements I did. E. g., doing 100 advancements would consistently hit frame 605, doing 101 advancements would hit frame 608 often.

The problem is that doing +X advancements does not mean you'll hit X frames later. The frames you hit fluctuate a lot without any rime or reason, which is really frustrating (once I hit every frame from target -4 to target +4, except for my target).

I used a lot of different seeds and tried at least 15 different numbers of Chatters for each of them, throughout a week, until I finally got Thundurus.

One thing I remember that helped was using a seed whose date made the weather snowy. When you leave the house, if it's snowing, the weather changes from snow to clear to rain, and snow advances less frames than rain. I recall this making my advances more consistent (my hits were closer to each other)
 

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ive been using october as its summer and there was no weather, but after an entire day of varying starting ids, im moving on to other things. thanks for the help and i will remember for next time
 
ive been using october as its summer and there was no weather, but after an entire day of varying starting ids, im moving on to other things. thanks for the help and i will remember for next time
I tried all kinds of weather (clear, rainy, snow) and snow seemed to work better for me. Good luck!
 
Hello i used to do a lot of rng on retail and I'm not able to do it anymore!

I'm folliwing the guides, but my chatots aren't even follwing the frames!

Can someone help me?

My infos:

MAC Adresse: 1B7A677F79
Id: 25008
SID: 50466
Timer 0: C6E

Ds light

French version on white.
 

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If your Chatots aren't giving you the right pitches, it could be because you're not hitting your Timer0. I notice that you've only listed one in your parameters (and BW have 2, BW2 have up to 15), so this is likely what it is.
The best way to fix this is to just keep trying, you will hit the right one eventually. Otherwise you can try recalibrating to see if you can find out what your other Timer0 is and then search for seeds using that one as well.
 

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Hello i used to do a lot of rng on retail and I'm not able to do it anymore!

I'm folliwing the guides, but my chatots aren't even follwing the frames!

Can someone help me?

My infos:

MAC Adresse: 1B7A677F79
Id: 25008
SID: 50466
Timer 0: C6E

Ds light

French version on white.
i usually search 2 or 3 that come up a lot. ive also noticed with particular seeds, certain timer0 values being more prevalent. id reccommend adding another timer0 to your search paramater, finding a different seed, or both
 
Thanks to both of you, now I'm trying rng B/W on emulator and XD on Dolphin.

I've got two questions one about BW:

I cannont hit the right intial seed! Even if i calibrate the old good way with catching sweet scent a mons and put the ivs in the DS parameter Search. Is it normal?

And about Dolphin:

It keeps CRASHING all the time and the game is very slow anybody could help me calbrating Dolphin?

Thanks!
 

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Thanks to both of you, now I'm trying rng B/W on emulator and XD on Dolphin.

I've got two questions one about BW:

I cannont hit the right intial seed! Even if i calibrate the old good way with catching sweet scent a mons and put the ivs in the DS parameter Search. Is it normal?

And about Dolphin:

It keeps CRASHING all the time and the game is very slow anybody could help me calbrating Dolphin?

Thanks!
I haven't got a clue about Dolphin, but there's a few things that I could think of for your BW questions.
1) What version of what emulator are you using?
2) What calibration values/parameters are you using?
3) What language are you playing the game in?

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I think you're looking for this thread.
 
I haven't got a clue about Dolphin, but there's a few things that I could think of for your BW questions.
1) What version of what emulator are you using?
2) What calibration values/parameters are you using?
3) What language are you playing the game in?


I think you're looking for this thread.
I play on last desmume version of an english game ! Im using those from the reddit guide:


  • DS Type: Lite/Original
  • DS Mac Address: 0009BF123456
  • VCount: 10-70
  • Timer0: 300-1200
  • GxStat: 6-6
  • VFrame: 0-15
 

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I play on last desmume version of an english game ! Im using those from the reddit guide:


  • DS Type: Lite/Original
  • DS Mac Address: 0009BF123456
  • VCount: 10-70
  • Timer0: 300-1200
  • GxStat: 6-6
  • VFrame: 0-15
I can't find the parameters for DeSmuME 0.9.11 anywhere online, but I can suggest changing to DeSmuME 0.9.9 (I've personally had success with that) and using the parameters found here for the version of the game that you are playing.
Other than that, go to Config -> Emulation Settings in DeSmuME and ensure that the box next to "Enable Advanced Bus-Level Timing" is ticked, and that the box next to "Use Dynamic Recompiler" is unticked.

If all that still doesn't work, then I'm afraid I can't help you.
 
Thanks to both of you, now I'm trying rng B/W on emulator and XD on Dolphin.

I've got two questions one about BW:

I cannont hit the right intial seed! Even if i calibrate the old good way with catching sweet scent a mons and put the ivs in the DS parameter Search. Is it normal?

And about Dolphin:

It keeps CRASHING all the time and the game is very slow anybody could help me calbrating Dolphin?

Thanks!
About DesmuME, definitely use the site LegoFigure11 recommended.

As for Dolphin, go to Config and disable "Enable Dual core (speedup)". That should circumvent the crashing problem.
 
Thank you both i can run finally my intial seed! :D

About Dolphin that didn't solve the problem. I'm running at the same time VBA maybe it cause that crash?
 

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Thank you both i can run finally my intial seed! :D

About Dolphin that didn't solve the problem. I'm running at the same time VBA maybe it cause that crash?
Even if that is the cause, you will need to find a way to get them to run together anyway otherwise you cannot transfer the Pokemon from XD to GBA games. But I think it should not be the problem..
 
Hello there once again i'm having troubles with desmume. It's now for catching Thundurus! WHat's the hotkey to advance 1 frame by one frame? I succeed in hitting the right initial seed but the shifted started frame can be attempt because everytime I use frame advance it pause automatically!

I use Desmume 09.9.

Thanks!
 

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Thanks! Now it's normal that it pause automatically after pressing N shift?
Yeah, it'll pause whenever you use N to advance the video frame. When you want to resume playing normally uncheck the "Pause" button (it's under "File" iirc, will check when I'm not on mobile)
 

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okay, thanks!
You've got two options on how to unpause your game:


Another thing that I've noticed that each press of N won't necessarily advance the video frame by 1; it seems that it can take several (usually 4-5 but I've experienced 20+) presses to actually advance the frame by 1, so trial and error might be necessary.
 
Okay so here's the thing i do EVERYTHING but my Thund is alwas is same



Increase the delay or increase the frame advance with chatot? If so for the second option, should i flip them during the battle, inside the house, or simply after her appearance?
 

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