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Thanks again. I'm now trying to do my DS parameter calibration for White2 but having issues with that. I've already done it with Black2 and it wasn't that difficult. After about 20 tries, there was one timer0 that I was clearly hitting more often than the others and I've already managed to RNG a hidden grotto pokémon on it just fine. On White2 now however, it's a real pain for some reason. After about 40 tries, I have about 11 different possibilities, of which there are 7 that I hit at least 3 times and 4 that I hit only once. I hit the same second every single time so that's not the issue. Also, is it possible for one timer0 value to give you pokémon with different natures? I'm using kyurem for the calibration and I've caught a quiet one 8 times and that was 10E9, but I've always caught a timid one 3 times hitting the same timer0 and the same second... Very confused about that.
The Kyurem in BW2 is in a noisy area, meaning that there will be random unpredictable unexpected pidrng frame advances, which would indeed lead to this. As for timer0, that's just the way it is unfortunately - there are no common ones in BW2 (and if there are you're extremely lucky), so you'll just have to roll with the punches, using chatot pitches or similar to confirm your seed.
 
The Kyurem in BW2 is in a noisy area, meaning that there will be random unpredictable unexpected pidrng frame advances, which would indeed lead to this.
But shouldn't the IVs be the same then? That isn't the case. In the DS parameter finder, I can see that the Vcount is different and I'm hitting a different seed even though I'm hitting the same timer0. What does that mean and what should I really do about this? Should I count those two calibrations as 2 different possibilities or as the same?
 

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But shouldn't the IVs be the same then? That isn't the case. In the DS parameter finder, I can see that the Vcount is different and I'm hitting a different seed even though I'm hitting the same timer0. What does that mean and what should I really do about this? Should I count those two calibrations as 2 different possibilities or as the same?
Yes, the IVs should be the same if you hit the same seed. The date/time/GxStat/Timer0/Vcount/Vframe all go into determining what seed you hit in your game (the latter 4 are lumped together and called your "DS parameters"). If any of those change, you'll hit a different seed and thus get different IVs (and similarly, nature). The point of calibrating is to find your most common DS parameters so that you minimize the number of failed attempts you get from fluctuations. You really can't do anything about the fluctuations, and just have to keep trying when things go awry. The Timer0 is the most common thing to fluctuate, though it's possible for the Vcount to change too (it's much less common on an original DS or DS lite iirc, so you could try using that instead if you have access to one).

To answer your question, it means your Vcount happened to fluctuate on that attempt, causing you to hit a different seed and get a different result. So it counts as 2 different possibilities. Now, based on your previous comment that lego responded to, it sounds like 1 Vcount is about twice as common as the other. Personally I would ignore that second one and only use the Vcount that gave you that Quiet Kyurem 8 times to enter into your profile.
 
I have an issue with every version of RNG reporter. After I make a profile, every single time I try to exit, an error screen pops up, saying

"Unhandled exception has occurred in your application. If you click Continue, the application will ignore this error and attempt to continue. If you click Quit, the application will close immediately. Access to the path 'C:\Windows\system32\profiles.xml' is denied."

If you click continue, nothing happens and your still in the profile viewing area. If you click Quit, the entire program closes and does not save the profile, meaning that I cannot do any gen 5 RNG. There is only one report of this happening and it never got resolved. I have factory reset the computer to see if it was a virus. Same error. I have downloaded it on another computer. Same error. I have tried a completely different wi-fi on a different computer. Same error. I have tried every download link that I could find on the internet for RNG reporter for any version. SAME ERROR! And since this has only been reported once, then this isnt because of the program. So, I have come down to these options.

1. It wont download in the correct spot or correctly. (it will always go to downloads)

2.These downloads happen in the same general area.

3.I have bad luck

Despite having these options, I am honestly clueless. Could anyone help?
 

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I have an issue with every version of RNG reporter. After I make a profile, every single time I try to exit, an error screen pops up, saying

"Unhandled exception has occurred in your application. If you click Continue, the application will ignore this error and attempt to continue. If you click Quit, the application will close immediately. Access to the path 'C:\Windows\system32\profiles.xml' is denied."

If you click continue, nothing happens and your still in the profile viewing area. If you click Quit, the entire program closes and does not save the profile, meaning that I cannot do any gen 5 RNG. There is only one report of this happening and it never got resolved. I have factory reset the computer to see if it was a virus. Same error. I have downloaded it on another computer. Same error. I have tried a completely different wi-fi on a different computer. Same error. I have tried every download link that I could find on the internet for RNG reporter for any version. SAME ERROR! And since this has only been reported once, then this isnt because of the program. So, I have come down to these options.

1. It wont download in the correct spot or correctly. (it will always go to downloads)

2.These downloads happen in the same general area.

3.I have bad luck

Despite having these options, I am honestly clueless. Could anyone help?
tldr version is that it shouldn't be trying to access a file that's in C:\Windows\system32\, and the reason it's erroring is because those are system files and you presumably don't have admin access on your computer. Try downloading the RNGReporter.exe and moving it (ctrl-x -> ctrl-v) to a new folder on your Desktop or something, as the program should automatically generate the profiles.xml in the same folder as the executable is saved in. If it's in a folder that you know you have access to, then it should be fine. If you try this and it's still pointing to C:\Windows\system32\, then try a different version of reporter (9.96.5 (recommended) or 10.x). If you're still having problems after this, respond to this message because I have a couple more ideas we can try.
 
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tldr version is that it shouldn't be trying to access a file that's in C:\Windows\system32\, and the reason it's erroring is because those are system files and you presumably don't have admin access on your computer. Try downloading the RNGReporter.exe and moving it (ctrl-x -> ctrl-v) to a new folder on your Desktop or something, as the program should automatically generate the profiles.xml in the same folder as the executable is saved in. If it's in a folder that you know you have access to, then it should be fine. If you try this and it's still pointing to C:\Windows\system32\, then try a different version of reporter (9.96.5 (recommended) or 10.x). If you're still having problems after this, respond to this message because I have a couple more ideas we can try.
It didn't work and there is no version of RNG reporter that has profiles that will work. I don't know if this is relevant, but it sometimes shows it as a zip file.
 

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It didn't work and there is no version of RNG reporter that has profiles that will work. I don't know if this is relevant, but it sometimes shows it as a zip file.
Cool, so try unzipping/extracting the .zip (winRAR or 7Zip are good choices for this if you don't know how) and then running the extracted executable. If you don't unzip it first then any external files (looking at you, profiles.xml) that it relies on it won't be able to find, and this is probably why it's looking in the wrong location.
 
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Cool, so try unzipping/extracting the .zip (winRAR or 7Zip are good choices for this if you don't know how) and then running the extracted executable. If you don't unzip it first then any external files (looking at you, profiles.xml) that it relies on it won't be able to find, and this is probably why it's looking in the wrong location.
Problem solved. Thanks.
 
So I've searched/googled for nearly an hour, but wasn't able to find a clear answer. I know that Uxie, Cobalion, Terrakium, Virizion and Kyurem have additional advancements either by WNPCs or Ghetsis' scepter in B2W2. I would like to know how high these advancements are for each of them. So, I can get an idea for what target frame I should aim.
The thing is that I'm planning to rng my id on b2 for a 6x31 shiny sync frame, but I have no idea which frame to pick. I'm not a fan of doing huge amounts of chatots, but I don't want to risk missing my target frame because it was set to early. And it has been a while since I rnged these pokemon, so I have no memory about my past target frames :'D Would be nice if anybody could give me advice (:
 

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So I've searched/googled for nearly an hour, but wasn't able to find a clear answer. I know that Uxie, Cobalion, Terrakium, Virizion and Kyurem have additional advancements either by WNPCs or Ghetsis' scepter in B2W2. I would like to know how high these advancements are for each of them. So, I can get an idea for what target frame I should aim.
The thing is that I'm planning to rng my id on b2 for a 6x31 shiny sync frame, but I have no idea which frame to pick. I'm not a fan of doing huge amounts of chatots, but I don't want to risk missing my target frame because it was set to early. And it has been a while since I rnged these pokemon, so I have no memory about my past target frames :'D Would be nice if anybody could give me advice (:
The number of advances is dependent upon the seed and how quickly you can bring up the menu, so there's no definite number. Ballpark...I'd say 5-7 advances for each (though I admit it's been a long time). If you aim for a frame that requires 20 advances for example, that should be more than enough.

You shouldn't have a problem finding additional seeds should you pick a frame too early, however. With enough years, keypresses, and patience searching I guarantee you you'll find another seed you like. RNGing your IDs is nice so you can know your SID, but it's not necessary for ensuring you have a good frame this gen.
 
I feel kinda dumb. I tried various seeds to rng abuse the gift magikarp in bw (the one you have to buy on the marvelous brigde). I choose a 6x0 IV-Split, due to a friends request (needed for swap breeding). But however, I always get a 0/0/0/0/0/31 Split (confirmed through iv jugde and calculator). First I thought that I hit the wrong seed and tried it various times. But everything worked correctly (nature, gender and chatots). Then I thought it might be the seed not working properly. So, I tried three different seeds and had always the same result.
Is it even possible to rng abuse such an iv-split in 5th gen? Or am I doing something wrong?

Edit: Okay, I figured it out by myself. It seems like the magikarp has a forced 31 IV stat on initiative. I entered the game serveral times on random dates and it always had this iv stat. Guess I'll have to use breeding to get the desired magikarp.
 
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Okay, my current rng attempt is driving me crazy... I need to determine my ssf for thundurus in BW but I can't really find something useful in rng reporter. This is what I got so far:
Numbers of chatots / nature (how often)
+0 Quiet(10)
+10 Brave(8)
+12 Adamant
+13 Modest
+14 Quirky
+16 Hardy
+17 Impish(2)
+18 Hardy
+20 Hardy(8)
+22 Brave
+30 Careful(2)
+40 Rash

Seed 8A1BE5351331D067

It's not my first time doing this, I did several Roamers in the past and even a shiny one, mostly tornadus. I'm aware that the actual difference between the natures is not consistent (like I did 10 advancements, but it's in fact only 8 because the frame advancement during the weather is not consistent). I looked through rng reporter for three times, one search within the standard range and the other two searches within the first 1000 frames. But I couldn't find something matching ._. It would be really helpful if someone could look through rng reporter, maybe I'm just too blind to find the ssf.
Also, what throws me off is the fact that I'm consistently hitting the same nature. I had always a small range of different natures for one sort of advancement in my past rng attempts (tornadus). Like adamant, bold, hardy and naive for always ten advancements. But I tried two different seeds for thundurus and also hit only one nature per advancement. Is this normal for thundurus?
Help is greatly appreciated :)
 
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Also, what throws me off is the fact that I'm consistently hitting the same nature. I had always a small range of different natures for one sort of advancement in my past rng attempts (tornadus). Like adamant, bold, hardy and naive for always ten advancements. But I tried two different seeds for thundurus and also hit only one nature per advancement. Is this normal for thundurus?
I don't know of any differences mechanically between Thundurus and Tornadus. The consistent results could mean the advances are tied to the PID frame, which is something I've theorized from this and what little White Forest RNG I've attempted (another user suggested this to me...4-5 years ago I guess). I digress, but the point is I'm not that surprised you are able to get somewhat consistent results. Though I can't say why.

Without knowing much about your setup/method, frames 1558/1561 seem pretty decent as your SSF. They match up well with the natures you've consistently gotten, though it's not perfect. It might be worth comparing the characteristics too since they might help (I have had them wrong in the distant past fwiw)...basically anything you can do to narrow down what PID you got. In case you don't know, you can right click in the main window and say "Display Characteristics in search..." to show the corresponding characteristics. Good luck!
 
In case you don't know, you can right click in the main window and say "Display Characteristics in search..." to show the corresponding characteristics. Good luck!
Thanks a lot for this tip. Totally forgot that feature exists ^^" I was finally able to narrow down my SSF on Frame 455/Quiet/Somewhat vain and got a timid one (after a lot of tries). Thank you very much (: I'm now able to rng for a shiny one.
 
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Thanks a lot for this tip. Totally forgot that feature exists ^^" I was finally able to narrow down my SSF on Frame 455/Quiet/Somewhat vain and got a timid one (after a lot of tries). Thank you very much (: I'm now able to rng for a shiny one.
Having a 3ds with CFW & Checkpoint might also help too, to backup your save prior to encountering the Genies, so that you can find out what PID you've hit after saving the game even when you didn't hit the target (so that you can restore the backup earlier when you're still inside the house before the encounter)

I've done lots of shiny Tornadus/Thundurus before. Here are some examples:

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Hi

I'm trying to Stationary RNG the Uxie outside of the museum in Black 2. It's very frustrating, becasue I think the NPC's are messing with the starting frame. Does anyone know off the top of their heads how many frames the NPCs affect the starting PIDRNG frame?
 

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Hi

I'm trying to Stationary RNG the Uxie outside of the museum in Black 2. It's very frustrating, becasue I think the NPC's are messing with the starting frame. Does anyone know off the top of their heads how many frames the NPCs affect the starting PIDRNG frame?
NPC movements vary with the seed (but are actually consistent for a given seed), so there is no definite answer. IIRC there are quite a few NPCs in Nacrene, so off the top of my head...idk like 15-20 ish frames? Since their movements are consistent, you should be able to determine your shifted starting frame without too much hassle as long as you open/close the menu consistently (throw in some chatters and you should be able to find a nature sequence). If you find that they are on the verge of moving (getting an inconsistent number of advances for the same timings in opening and closing the menu), you can try resaving, which'd put them in a different starting position.
 
Not sure the right place to post this, but has to do with RNGReporter in Gen 5, specifically the encounter slots:

While searching for a seed to get a L33 Litwick (Slot 4) in Strange House, I came across a seed that RNGReporter said would give a Slot 4 Pokemon, that was actually in Slot 5 (L32 Banette).

The seed in question was 008641E33FC410F7 at Frame 75.
Of note, the RNG at point of Encounter Slot generation would be B33CFE567E79D6E3.

B33C / 656 = 69.94, which would give Slot 4, and what I'm assuming RNGReporter is doing (since I saw that mentioned in another thread as well.)
But given it's actually Slot 5, I have to assume that is the wrong operation. B33C / 655.36 = 70.01, for reference, which would be Slot 5.
 

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Not sure the right place to post this, but has to do with RNGReporter in Gen 5, specifically the encounter slots:

While searching for a seed to get a L33 Litwick (Slot 4) in Strange House, I came across a seed that RNGReporter said would give a Slot 4 Pokemon, that was actually in Slot 5 (L32 Banette).

The seed in question was 008641E33FC410F7 at Frame 75.
Of note, the RNG at point of Encounter Slot generation would be B33CFE567E79D6E3.

B33C / 656 = 69.94, which would give Slot 4, and what I'm assuming RNGReporter is doing (since I saw that mentioned in another thread as well.)
But given it's actually Slot 5, I have to assume that is the wrong operation. B33C / 655.36 = 70.01, for reference, which would be Slot 5.
Yup, relevant reporter code here. The repo is archived now, but if you give me 10 mins I'll compile a fixed version and attach it here!

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