I believe that we should expand to better accomodate our playerbase, and that expansion doesn't meaningfully lower the quality of games.
ADVPL V had four OU slots per team(including bo3) with eight teams, for a total of thirty two OU starters. I don't believe that the next best twenty or so OU players are so much more incompetent - last ADVPL featured some excellent players on the bench or undrafted, notably including players like zinc3(3-1 in SPL this year), Spreek and Sato07. Lady Bug was the 31st ranked player on the power rankings(I believe?) and put up one of the best seasons at 6-2.
ADV is far and away the largest community, and deserves a twelve slot tournament to match. I am wholly unconvinced that adding OU slots reduces the game quality - any games beyond 2nd slot is going to feature non spl/invitational players, and there's loads of competent people that don't fit into that bracket. I would argue strongly for a twelve slot PL this advpl.
Last years format was:
Ubers x1
OU Bo3 x1
OU x3
UU x1
RU x1
NU x1
PU x1
LC x1
None of these slots should be cut I think(unless the community has any particularly strong opinion on the exclusion of these tiers, but they seem to be pretty well received).
I would argue for a twelve slot format of:
Ubers x1
OU Bo3 x1
OU x4
UU x1
RU x1
NU x1
PU x1
LC x1
Draft x1(or a sixth OU)
In format discussion threads, signups are often cited to show interest in a tier. 2025 Emerald Open eclipsed 300 signups to play ADV Draft, the Hoenn Draft Invitational circuit is nearing its close, featuring four hundred and eighty players participating in the circuit, and an established top cut of sixteen. Not only is there a huge and willing playerbase, there's an established tournament caliber playerbase, with established boards to draw from for the tournament.
Draft was recently featured in the National Dex Champions League as an example for how draft slots into a non-draft team tournament. At the start of the tournament, teams do multiple drafts(2-3) and then pick between them each week, so as to evade matchup-dominated games. I am convinced that draft would be a good fit for this tournament, and would love to hear discussion.
If not Draft, then 12 slots with six OU slots(I would love to hear what the returning managers think about this! I personally would feel confident finding players for all of these slots. If others share this belief, that's pretty compelling for expansion imo.) or a doubles slot last is fine. I would strongly prefer draft over doubles, because draft has about five times the playerbase and is less esoteric. Non draft players can meaningfully offer advice and help in the building process for a draft game, it's easy to sub someone in, etc, unlike doubles.
ADVPL V had four OU slots per team(including bo3) with eight teams, for a total of thirty two OU starters. I don't believe that the next best twenty or so OU players are so much more incompetent - last ADVPL featured some excellent players on the bench or undrafted, notably including players like zinc3(3-1 in SPL this year), Spreek and Sato07. Lady Bug was the 31st ranked player on the power rankings(I believe?) and put up one of the best seasons at 6-2.
ADV is far and away the largest community, and deserves a twelve slot tournament to match. I am wholly unconvinced that adding OU slots reduces the game quality - any games beyond 2nd slot is going to feature non spl/invitational players, and there's loads of competent people that don't fit into that bracket. I would argue strongly for a twelve slot PL this advpl.
Last years format was:
Ubers x1
OU Bo3 x1
OU x3
UU x1
RU x1
NU x1
PU x1
LC x1
None of these slots should be cut I think(unless the community has any particularly strong opinion on the exclusion of these tiers, but they seem to be pretty well received).
I would argue for a twelve slot format of:
Ubers x1
OU Bo3 x1
OU x4
UU x1
RU x1
NU x1
PU x1
LC x1
Draft x1(or a sixth OU)
In format discussion threads, signups are often cited to show interest in a tier. 2025 Emerald Open eclipsed 300 signups to play ADV Draft, the Hoenn Draft Invitational circuit is nearing its close, featuring four hundred and eighty players participating in the circuit, and an established top cut of sixteen. Not only is there a huge and willing playerbase, there's an established tournament caliber playerbase, with established boards to draw from for the tournament.
Draft was recently featured in the National Dex Champions League as an example for how draft slots into a non-draft team tournament. At the start of the tournament, teams do multiple drafts(2-3) and then pick between them each week, so as to evade matchup-dominated games. I am convinced that draft would be a good fit for this tournament, and would love to hear discussion.
If not Draft, then 12 slots with six OU slots(I would love to hear what the returning managers think about this! I personally would feel confident finding players for all of these slots. If others share this belief, that's pretty compelling for expansion imo.) or a doubles slot last is fine. I would strongly prefer draft over doubles, because draft has about five times the playerbase and is less esoteric. Non draft players can meaningfully offer advice and help in the building process for a draft game, it's easy to sub someone in, etc, unlike doubles.
