All rounders

konradsean

Although this is my first post, I have been on here quite a while, reading most posts, just never posting myself.

Anyway, after spending a long time on shoddy recently, who do you think are the best "all rounders?"

Mespirit tops it for me - can defend quite well, access to calm mind and a boltbeam to be afraid of.

Donphan can attack and defend on the physical side, Swampert similarly, and BulkyGara can effectively fend of attacks and destroy teams with taunt + DD, and perhaps Cresselia could function as one after a couple of special attack raises from Charge beam.
 
Cress is fairly versitile, being able to wall, status, and can attempt to sweep. Jirachi can run both special, physical and support sets, as well as having good enough defences to do a bit of walling.
...Ben
 
Ben. said:
Cress is fairly versitile, being able to wall, status, and can attempt to sweep. Jirachi can run both special, physical and support sets, as well as having good enough defences to do a bit of walling.
...Ben
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I love wish and Reflect on Jirachi, such a great combo for team support, and I stuck t-bolt on mine, just for coverage of fliers, Gyarados etc.
 
Although it sounds somewhat ridiculous, I have to say SDChomp. Ground typing means it can switch in on T-Waves, one SD and it isn't hindered by Burn. It has really good defenses for a sweeper, with 95 Defense and 85 Sp. Defense. Slap a Yache Berry on it to make sure it doesn't die, and you've got a clean sweep.
 
I'd more learn towards a brightpower/sub chomp. For similar reasons, but because it's much more annoying!
...Ben
 
I would say as a pokemon, Salamence has so many options that makes it the threat it is in the metagame. With possibilities such as Specsmence, Bandmence, Mixmence, DDmence, and Wishmence, I would say Salamence can do it all.
 
Kangaskhan would have UU if it had a better Special Attack.

Who says Togekiss can't be a Physical attacker? Hustle/Choice Band! I think Togekiss works all around as well.
 
bball1210 said:
I would say as a pokemon, Salamence has so many options that makes it the threat it is in the metagame. With possibilities such as Specsmence, Bandmence, Mixmence, DDmence, and Wishmence, I would say Salamence can do it all.
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It's easily the most versatile pokemon out there.
 
Swampert can both Defend and Attack, he know's how to make his Job. MixPert is the Best and the one that does the Job.
 
If we're talking pokemon that have well rounded stats--Kingdra's your man. With 80-95 in every stat, it can do a lot of things well, just not all at once.

Swift Swim makes it good for switch ins, giving it Draco Meteor to nuke some unsuspecting pokemon, or Waterfall to take down blissey. Last could go to either HP: Electric or Ice Beam, but it'd still be pretty effective.

Another big'un on the list of well rounded base stats is Flygon. With base 80's excluding 2 100 stats, it can easily pass as a good U-turner, with a good type combination and an EQ immune. Draco Meteor, EQ, Fire Blast--it's all here. The only problem is Garchomp outclasses this in every way, U-turn and the immune being the only things 'different', while not necessarily better.
 
It depends what you'd define as all round. If you're thinking of something that can attack and defend well both physically and specially, as well as support, then Swampert.
To be honest, I don't think it's especially important. I mean, you never try to fill the last space in your team with an all rounder unless your team's poorly built.
 
Glalie's stats are essentially the same across the board. Not like it does much with it, but it does give it versatility.
 
Boah.

Great HP and ATK, Good DEF and SDEF (Boost from Sandstorm), and just enough SATK to take out common Physical walls.

He's pretty hard to wall unless you're running something like Hitmontop or Hariyama.
 
All rounders as in pokemon that can serve a huge amount of roles?

Clefable tops the list IMO. It's movepool is just obscene (something like 9 sets on the analysis page), and with it's amazing ability they're fairly viable in standard play.

In addition to having a large variety of support options, Celebi can do two things that Clefable can't - Subseed and Baton Pass.

Offensively, I'd say Salamence and Tyranitar pose the most variable threats.
 
Ben. said:
Cress is fairly versitile, being able to wall, status, and can attempt to sweep. Jirachi can run both special, physical and support sets, as well as having good enough defences to do a bit of walling.
...Ben
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Uh, Cress isn't quite an all-rounder. It can wall well, but it's not really much of a sweeper. It can play the Uber-like role of extremely-defensive-CMer if you want, but that's hardly a versitale sweeper.

Mesprit gets my vote here. He's balanced without being mediocre thanks to its great movepool. He can counter Gyarados, Garchomp, and Infernape easily with a defensive set, or he can Calm Mind. It's too bad that Mesprit doesn't get Recover; otherwise it'd be a monster.
 
flygon isn't completely outclassed by garchomp...it takes a lot more skill to use it, but it can play with the big boys if it needs to. my personal favorite is the screech set for forcing switches, and i saw a specs set the other day that really caught my eye...fire blast, earth power, draco meteor and something else...very nice type coverage, very nice power...

as to something that's an all arounder...arceus ftw.

or seriously, how bout empoleon? not a lot the massive penguin can't do at least passably well, even if he's not the best at it. it can go offensive physically with swords dance, avalanche, waterfall, earthquake, shadow claw, among others, special with all the usual "i'm a water-type" attacks plus grass knot, wall special hits surprisingly well, and even do decently at stopping non-super effective physical hits. and it's a great supporter/staller/statuser/phazer thing...with yawn, roar, toxic, aqua ring, stealth rock...etc.

lots of tricks from an overgrown metallic penguin. mr. cobblepot would be proud...
 
Urza said:
flygon isn't completely outclassed by garchomp...it takes a lot more skill to use it, but it can play with the big boys if it needs to. my personal favorite is the screech set for forcing switches, and i saw a specs set the other day that really caught my eye...fire blast, earth power, draco meteor and something else...very nice type coverage, very nice power...
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Amen, man. Now try telling that to a Shoddy room full of people insisting that Screech is a worse Swords Dance and has no benefits, even after you point out how much residual damage is taken into account.

I personally run sub/screech/eq/dragon claw flygon. Skarmory can go meet my friend probopass, and Bronzong can, uh, continue to do nothing.

I forgot to mention, uh, Arceus is the permanent #1 all-rounder.
 
back in advance i was running a screech-gon with screech/fireblast/eq/rockslide. worked wonders, people hated it, especially once i got spikes up (i loved me some omastar for that...) haven't run flyboy since, maybe i should give it a try...seems like it would work a lot better now, with all the new field hazards. of course i don't battle enough, but cest la vie...
 
Regice.

Obviously is one hell of a special wall, but it can wall physical hits with Curse / Rest. It has the movepool to go either physical or special, and can pull off enough power with Curse to hit hard with Avalanche. It has access to Thunder Wave, so it can also be a support poke.

It doesn't have any protection against resisual damage though...
 
Probably tyranitar.It's just a monster and it it's hard to counter especially if you don't know what kind it is.I like jirachi too.I'm always impressed at how well dusknior does in my battles.Such an amazing pokemon.
 
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